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Zoints
11-14-2006, 04:44 PM
WOOT!! GK <3 4 zoints!!

ZOINTUP FOOS!!! :cool:

Heheheh. :alien:

vivamexico55
11-15-2006, 03:48 PM
How long until version 1.0 is released? will it be a problem to upgrade or should I wait?

Zoints
11-15-2006, 07:19 PM
How long until version 1.0 is released? will it be a problem to upgrade or should I wait?

We hope to have 1.0 Gold out within 72 hours. Upgrading from RC3 will be no problem and take mere minutes :)

Pulsorock
11-15-2006, 07:49 PM
We hope to have 1.0 Gold out within 72 hours. Upgrading from RC3 will be no problem and take mere minutes :)
That sounds nice.... I think I now have something to play with in the weekend. ;)

Pulsorock
11-15-2006, 10:49 PM
At present, no. However, a lot of people want that so we are going to implement a much better way of searching soon. I apologize for the inconvience in the meantime.
This improvement in the search will be available on 1.0 Gold or on later releases? :cool:

influence
11-16-2006, 03:02 AM
my question is, why name it local when its really not local? Its still like a network thing and i really dont want my site to be hooked into some network or my members trying to search for someone on my site and the results ends up showing for members for another site. I would like for my members to stay on my site and not be taken to another site when they try to search for members on MY site.

Wouldn't that be messed up if a KKK site add this to their site and then their members uses the search button and the results shows couple of african americans site members? Not saying anyone cares about a KKK site but its just an example of people having to search yoru site but then have results that will take them to another site so how local is this?

I wish I can pay to get that header remove or else lots of people wont be installing this the same way a lot of folks including myself stayed away from the centralized version. I thought the reason you guys released this version was for more people to use zoints but I doubt it since its still the same. Only difference between the local version and the centralized version is that with the local you put the files on your server so that you wont have to redirect or link your default vbulletin profile to zoints.com. you use up more of your disk space and bandwidth for nothing when you can use the centralized version and get the same results of this zoints product and the centralized version have more feature too.


Hopefully someone will release a profile hack one day or a paid one without having to use others with some catch to it like this one

pokerie
11-16-2006, 05:00 AM
influence, the guys working on vBlogetin are hoping to add some kind of user page in the near future onto their excellent blogging software which currently fits very nicely into vBulletin. It wont be free, but at $50, for the functionality, it's not far off.

Zoints
11-16-2006, 06:11 AM
Hopefully someone will release a profile hack one day or a paid one without having to use others with some catch to it like this one

We do provide paid "Autonomy licenses".

I would appreciate it if you would conduct yourself is a more professional and cordial manner in the future. Thank you.

Zoints
11-16-2006, 06:39 AM
Some people have asked this: for those who do NOT want to be interconnected with other forums, we DO provide an "Autonomy License". PM dchapman (me) on http://network.zoints.com/ for details. But this is the FREE version of this modification

amnesia623
11-16-2006, 11:39 AM
We do provide paid "Autonomy licenses".

I would appreciate it if you would conduct yourself is a more professional and cordial manner in the future. Thank you.

What is this?

influence
11-16-2006, 01:55 PM
We do provide paid "Autonomy licenses".

I would appreciate it if you would conduct yourself is a more professional and cordial manner in the future. Thank you.


I apologize if any of my comments sounded rude or out of place for you. Just that I am really trying to do something with my site and having a good profile system is all I need so far.

Again, I am truly sorry DC


PS. does the Autonomy License completely removed the top header so that we can use our own default header? if thats the case then I am up for it and how much would it cost?

pokerie
11-16-2006, 02:46 PM
Thanks for the PM Dchapman. May aswell ask you here since others are asking too, be easier for you to answer us all together:) Is the $20 per month for the Autonomy License the only option or is there a once off payment option too? Could you please also explain the advantages this would have over this hack for those who prefer to keep it completely localised?

Zoints
11-16-2006, 09:07 PM
Again, I am truly sorry DC

Apology accepted, thank you.

PS. does the Autonomy License completely removed the top header so that we can use our own default header? if thats the case then I am up for it and how much would it cost?

The Autonomy License lets you remove and change anything and everything except the copyright notice at the bottom. We give you instructions for removing our navigation, changing the search so it only searches locally, change the interest tags, etc. You become "autonomous".

It costs $20.00 per month or a one time payment of $120.00.

pcoskat
11-16-2006, 09:11 PM
$20 per month for the Autonomy License

Well that settles it for me. Not paying monthly.:confused:

Zoints
11-16-2006, 09:12 PM
Thanks for the PM Dchapman. May aswell ask you here since others are asking too, be easier for you to answer us all together:) Is the $20 per month for the Autonomy License the only option or is there a once off payment option too? Could you please also explain the advantages this would have over this hack for those who prefer to keep it completely localised?

Prices provided above.

Advantages over the free version? There aren't any in my opinion. What would be the advantages for a city in the USA that blew up all their major roads in and out? Do you really think that will keep the people in that want to leave the city? It sure keeps lots of people out and stops all kinds of interaction. If communities truly become interconnected (and they will, even if its not Zoints that pulls it off) we're going to have a few virtual North Korea's on the internet I think.

MissKalunji
11-16-2006, 10:07 PM
Apology accepted, thank you.



The Autonomy License lets you remove and change anything and everything except the copyright notice at the bottom. We give you instructions for removing our navigation, changing the search so it only searches locally, change the interest tags, etc. You become "autonomous".

It costs $20.00 per month or a one time payment of $120.00.

Recap this for me 120 means that im completly removed from zoint? no more searc or n e thing with zoint?

and + copyright removal

That means NOTHING left from zoint correct me if im wrong?

pokerie
11-16-2006, 10:40 PM
Ah, that's good there's a one time payment option:)

I know the whole purpose of this is to connect it with zoints for you guys. However this looks to be a very nice hack and can provide many communities with more than that, and the more may be the only thing they are after.

I don't think it's the connecting with other users the admins are afraid of. Speaking strictly for me (we both could have died then and there, sorry, lyrics from a song:P) the thing I would not like about the extra nav bars, searching other communities, having options to explore other communities etc is that it would just add more features and complications for our users to work out. Some of our users are technically minded, but a lot of them aren't. And as the saying goes, sometimes less is more. We want our users to use the features on our site and not get lost going off to another site when they think they are still exploring poker.ie.

Also, for a website like mine where we offer a service and prefer to keep talk of other competing services like ours to a minimum, linking to other forums is a bad idea. There's also the fact that for forums discussing a broad topic like poker, the quieter forum may come out bad because as we all know, when we ask a question in a forum, we like to see as many replies in as quick a time as possible. If a user starts a topic in another forum and gets a better response than in our forum, that wont be good for us and we may lose them. Even though the general community of poker may now have a poster who is more active because their threads get more responses, our community will have lost a valuable member. It's happened before. One of our best posters saw another site mentioned in a thread on our forum and now posts there primarily. Even a slight mention of somewhere else could mean the loss of a user.

Hope you understand my concerns as I'm sure they are shared by many here.

Zoints
11-16-2006, 10:55 PM
Recap this for me 120 means that im completly removed from zoint? no more searc or n e thing with zoint?

and + copyright removal

That means NOTHING left from zoint correct me if im wrong?

It does not remove the copyright. Otherwise, you are correct.

Zoints
11-16-2006, 10:57 PM
Hope you understand my concerns as I'm sure they are shared by many here.

I fully understand and respect your concerns. While I may not agree with them, it is not my job to tell you what is best for your forum. Zoints is about empowering forum owners. If that means providing you with an Autonomy License (though we hate to take money from forum owners) then we're happy to do so.

pokerie
11-16-2006, 11:22 PM
I'll take it for free if that'll make you feel any better? ;) :D

blogtorank
11-17-2006, 12:16 AM
HAHA!!

I love your CAPTCHA:

Please Answer This Question

Which 2 of the following items do NOT have a brain?

rock lip balm
cat monkey

rrr
11-17-2006, 12:37 AM
It does not remove the copyright. Otherwise, you are correct.

Is there a branding free license available as well? Like vbulletin offers?

Zoints
11-17-2006, 01:46 AM
Is there a branding free license available as well? Like vbulletin offers?

Yes there is. $100.00 + $.01 per member. So if you have 1000 members it is $110.00

Pulsorock
11-17-2006, 01:55 AM
Can I start first with the free version, then move to the autonomy license of $120?

MissKalunji
11-17-2006, 03:30 AM
Yes there is. $100.00 + $.01 per member. So if you have 1000 members it is $110.00

arf that means for 3000 it would be 30 extra? One time fee? or every extra member i have to add a penny to it?

It does not remove the copyright. Otherwise, you are correct.

and where can i get it?

amnesia623
11-17-2006, 04:21 AM
I think zoints should follow the style set forth by the forum owner.

d8tabyte
11-17-2006, 05:11 AM
So create a custom style and make it the default...

rrr
11-17-2006, 05:20 AM
Yes there is. $100.00 + $.01 per member. So if you have 1000 members it is $110.00

Thanks (that's a neat way of pricing it :))!

So just so I'm crystal clear: with the autonomous license and the branding free license, it would be totally separate from any zoints.com references and the social network would stay within the forum?

Zoints
11-17-2006, 05:20 AM
Can I start first with the free version, then move to the autonomy license of $120?

Sure.

Zoints
11-17-2006, 05:22 AM
arf that means for 3000 it would be 30 extra? One time fee? or every extra member i have to add a penny to it?

and where can i get it?

One time fee. If you get another 10,000 members next month, you don't pay a dime.

Open a ticket at http://zoints.com/support.z and we'll set you up.

Pulsorock
11-17-2006, 05:56 AM
Sure.
Great!

I will take this weekend to upgrade vB to the latest release and will install Zoints Local. Hopefully by Saturday/Sunday 1.0 Gold is released, right? ;)

Zoints
11-17-2006, 12:56 PM
Thanks (that's a neat way of pricing it :))!

Thanks. It was the fairest way we could think of implementing it. Why should the little guy always get screwed, right?

So just so I'm crystal clear: with the autonomous license and the branding free license, it would be totally separate from any zoints.com references and the social network would stay within the forum?

Correct.

amnesia623
11-17-2006, 01:04 PM
For the autonomous version, can there be a zoints version that would follow the style set by the forum owner. I like zoints and what it offers, but to put 120 bucks out for a product that doesn't follow my style settings (page width, etc...) is a little discouraging.

Please don't mistake this as being a negative post because it isn't. I think zoints is a great addition to forums in need of a bigger, better networking system.

Can I control the page width and bring in my navbar into zoints now?

Pulsorock
11-17-2006, 03:24 PM
Is there a way that I can set the Admin account to be default on everyones network? Like Tom is on everyones MySpace profile? hahaha :o

Harley77
11-17-2006, 06:54 PM
For the autonomous version, can there be a zoints version that would follow the style set by the forum owner. I like zoints and what it offers, but to put 120 bucks out for a product that doesn't follow my style settings (page width, etc...) is a little discouraging.

Please don't mistake this as being a negative post because it isn't. I think zoints is a great addition to forums in need of a bigger, better networking system.

Can I control the page width and bring in my navbar into zoints now?


Zoints doesn't seem to grab the vars that are in VB with the exception of user data. Considering the level of complexity and customization ability in zoints, I don't think its even feasible to pull across header or navbar code. Zoints doesn't seem to have been designed to intertwine with VB, but act as a separate entity with various connection points.

You best bet is to take your header and footer code, work out all the VB vars and make it work as a standalone page, then paste it into the Header and Footer boxes in the Zoints Admin page.

Zoints
11-17-2006, 10:35 PM
Hopefully by Saturday/Sunday 1.0 Gold is released, right? ;)

That's our hope. :)

Zoints
11-17-2006, 10:36 PM
Is there a way that I can set the Admin account to be default on everyones network? Like Tom is on everyones MySpace profile? hahaha :o

Not yet, but we'll add that into a later build. Tom is going to have nothing on you, my friend ;)

Zoints
11-17-2006, 10:38 PM
Zoints doesn't seem to grab the vars that are in VB with the exception of user data. Considering the level of complexity and customization ability in zoints, I don't think its even feasible to pull across header or navbar code. Zoints doesn't seem to have been designed to intertwine with VB, but act as a separate entity with various connection points.

You best bet is to take your header and footer code, work out all the VB vars and make it work as a standalone page, then paste it into the Header and Footer boxes in the Zoints Admin page.

You are correct.

But in subsequent releases of Zoints Local, we will provide MUCH more functionality and intertwining with boardware. We're nearing release of 1.0 and we already pack all kinds of cool stuff into this system. Just think what it'll be like by 1.2 or 1.5 as we work to make the lives of admin and members that much easier :cool:

Neutral Singh
11-17-2006, 11:34 PM
You are my heroes: to all Zoints dev Team!!

Pulsorock
11-18-2006, 12:59 AM
That's our hope. :)Not yet, but we'll add that into a later build. Tom is going to have nothing on you, my friend ;)

Wohooooooooooooo

You guys Rock!

;)

Pulsorock
11-18-2006, 06:46 AM
I was testing the Zoints Local demo and noticed that I cannot see what is displayed on this screenshot on the description of the app.

Social Networking - Forget just friends, Zoints Local allows your members to create as many "Groups" as they want. We all have friends, family, colleagues, forum friends, and various other people in our lives.

http://img3.zoints.com/zthread/zoints7_lg.png
I did not saw the "Invite Your Friends" in the Zonits Local demo, but I did saw it on the centralized Zoints. Is this option available on the Zoints Local also?

Zoints
11-18-2006, 06:51 AM
I did not saw the "Invite Your Friends" in the Zonits Local demo, but I did saw it on the centralized Zoints. Is this option available on the Zoints Local also?

We ended up having to cut that out because it was a 3rd party app we purchased and couldn't strike a distribution deal with the owner. If anyone has a good, usable invite script, please let us know and we'll integrate it.

Zoints
11-18-2006, 06:53 AM
We're working on the gold build right now. I thought I'd let you guys know about a few enhancements that will be seen:

1. Forum avatars will be used. No more having two sets of avatars.

2. The entire default profile is being pulled and will be displayable in its own page. Think: My Homepage | My Profile | My vB Profile | Blog | ... That way all functionality there will still be easily accessible.

3. Much better control over pages. As a forum owner you will be able to lock pages on a page by page basis from editing.

4. Control over how much disk space each member gets.

Pulsorock
11-18-2006, 06:57 AM
We ended up having to cut that out because it was a 3rd party app we purchased and couldn't strike a distribution deal with the owner. If anyone has a good, usable invite script, please let us know and we'll integrate it.
ohhh... :(
Too bad... it looked pretty good. Hopefully there's other that can be used. :)

Pulsorock
11-18-2006, 06:58 AM
We're working on the gold build right now. I thought I'd let you guys know about a few enhancements that will be seen:

1. Forum avatars will be used. No more having two sets of avatars.

2. The entire default profile is being pulled and will be displayable in its own page. Think: My Homepage | My Profile | My vB Profile | Blog | ... That way all functionality there will still be easily accessible.

3. Much better control over pages. As a forum owner you will be able to lock pages on a page by page basis from editing.

4. Control over how much disk space each member gets.
great! that's awesome.... can't wait to install it. :D

pokerie
11-18-2006, 08:57 AM
Will these new features be available in both the version for 120 and this free local one? So basically, you could test it out on the free local one and if you're happy with it and want to remove all the nav bars and connections with zoints, you can pay 120 and you wont lose any functionality etc?

vprp
11-18-2006, 05:23 PM
Not yet, but we'll add that into a later build. Tom is going to have nothing on you, my friend ;)

I requested the Admin being everyone's friend feature on the Zoints forum but I have to add something to the request. Instead of having the admin default to this, I think we should be given the opportunity to input the userid of someone(s) to designate in this position. For example, a forum might have multiple admins but only one would utilize this or a forum admin might want to designate someone else for this.

Zoints
11-18-2006, 11:48 PM
Will these new features be available in both the version for 120 and this free local one? So basically, you could test it out on the free local one and if you're happy with it and want to remove all the nav bars and connections with zoints, you can pay 120 and you wont lose any functionality etc?

All features are the same.

I requested the Admin being everyone's friend feature on the Zoints forum but I have to add something to the request. Instead of having the admin default to this, I think we should be given the opportunity to input the userid of someone(s) to designate in this position. For example, a forum might have multiple admins but only one would utilize this or a forum admin might want to designate someone else for this.

Agreed. That's how we'd do it.

gothicuser
11-19-2006, 03:02 AM
We're working on the gold build right now. I thought I'd let you guys know about a few enhancements that will be seen:

1. Forum avatars will be used. No more having two sets of avatars.

2. The entire default profile is being pulled and will be displayable in its own page. Think: My Homepage | My Profile | My vB Profile | Blog | ... That way all functionality there will still be easily accessible.

3. Much better control over pages. As a forum owner you will be able to lock pages on a page by page basis from editing.

4. Control over how much disk space each member gets.
I don't see mention for an option to store files (images) in database for 'safe-mode=on' admins.
Any plans to incorporate this by gold please?

Because I have had to manually create the folders and then CHMOD them I have had to limit the number of members using it (no intention of sitting for many hours recreating the convoluted directory system needed :( ).

Zoints
11-19-2006, 06:12 AM
I don't see mention for an option to store files (images) in database for 'safe-mode=on' admins.
Any plans to incorporate this by gold please?

Because I have had to manually create the folders and then CHMOD them I have had to limit the number of members using it (no intention of sitting for many hours recreating the convoluted directory system needed :( ).

Hi Tony,

We don't have support for safe mode at this time and it's not going to make it into gold, sorry. It'll be built into a later release. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Zoints
11-19-2006, 06:18 AM
We're going to delay gold for a couple days to resolve the two major complaints community owners have at this time:

1. The navbar/header/footer will be able to automatically be added.

2. We're going to rework the "Communities" link in the header. Instead of pointing to http://zoints.com/communities, we are instead going to create a system where forum owners can network with each other. "Subnetworks". For example, if you own an auto detailing forum, it would be in your interest to network with a honda and a toyota forum that don't have auto detailing subforums. Then, when you or your members click on the Communities link, instead of being taken to Zoints, a dropdown appears with links to those communities you are networked with. Yes, if you're a forum owner with 5 forums, you can network with yourself.

Thank you for your continued feedback so that we can improve Zoints Local. It is greatly appreciated :)

gothicuser
11-19-2006, 07:22 AM
Hi Tony,

We don't have support for safe mode at this time and it's not going to make it into gold, sorry. It'll be built into a later release. Sorry for the inconvenience.
Many thanks for the reply, it is still useable, but holy Mother, what a pain when I do one of my 'total' forum backups https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/

FFW
11-19-2006, 07:56 AM
1. The navbar/header/footer will be able to automatically be added.

Great news :) That would be my only real complaint with this so far. Nice to see it being rectified.

Zoints
11-19-2006, 08:49 PM
Many thanks for the reply, it is still useable, but holy Mother, what a pain when I do one of my 'total' forum backups.

Can you please elaborate on what the issue is when you do that? Thanks.

mustangchris
11-19-2006, 11:49 PM
I installed this on my forum...and it replaced the normal Profile for users? How do I get the standard profile back on VB 3.6.3?

Zoints
11-20-2006, 01:58 AM
I installed this on my forum...and it replaced the normal Profile for users? How do I get the standard profile back on VB 3.6.3?

Our next version will allow for that automatically. The current version does not make them accessible. You may want to turn off the admincp > vbulletin options > zoints profile options until the next version is ready if it is bothering your members (sorry for the wait).

Zoints
11-20-2006, 02:02 AM
I thought I'd give a quick update on the progress we're making with automatically pulling the header and footer. As to be honest I'm rather excited because it makes everything look much cleaner when going from forum to profile. The below screenshots are from a page where everything is at a static 800 pixel width (thus the 2nd row of pages).

Profile header:
http://network.zoints.com/images/t/progress1.png



Forum header
http://network.zoints.com/images/t/progress2.png



Profile footer:
http://network.zoints.com/images/t/progress4.png



Forum footer:
http://network.zoints.com/images/t/progress3.png

We still have some work to do to get the navbar working as desired. And because of this new code, you're able to now set fixed widths via the vbulletin style options. But that breaks a few things with our style editor so we need to figure that out. Overall, progress has been fantastic though. And it's all thanks to the feedback you folks have provided. :cool:


*edit* Updated screenshots with the navbar:

Profile
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/


Forum
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/

lsatblu
11-20-2006, 03:09 AM
We're going to delay gold for a couple days to resolve the two major complaints community owners have at this time.

Will the QA Team be receiving a copy soon for testing? Sorry, I'm anxious. :)

gothicuser
11-20-2006, 04:26 AM
Can you please elaborate on what the issue is when you do that? Thanks.
:) not an issue, more me being old fashioned lol
I do have automatic backups enabled and yes they are quite satisfactory, but I still like to manually download my site once a week to keep a 'hard copy' so to speak, and all those embedded directories in the user folder just seem to double the time this all takes.
Am really looking forward to the update. Thanks.

pokerie
11-20-2006, 08:11 AM
One thing I don't think that's been answered, if I get the paid version for $120, can I make the URLs www.sitename.com/username instead of www.sitename.com/z/username (removing the z) ? This would be a big plus.

Ascor
11-20-2006, 09:54 AM
Some people have asked this: for those who do NOT want to be interconnected with other forums, we DO provide an "Autonomy License". PM dchapman (me) on http://network.zoints.com/ for details. But this is the FREE version of this modification

olala this is a very big new's :cool:
I was waiting the new release of phpfox begin 2007 but now i must reconsiderin a lot of think.
Thank you for finaly give people what people want, and the best is that the price is not to heavy :cool:

kewl1uk
11-20-2006, 10:14 AM
Already installed yesterday from the download from the Zoints forum but I clicked installed here too. The install was a breeze and my members love it :)

Alfa1
11-20-2006, 10:22 AM
Zoints seems very interesting, but one thing that bothers me is that the navbar on my zoints profiles will be completely out of sync with the rest of my site. Is there a work around?

Zoints
11-20-2006, 11:46 AM
Zoints seems very interesting, but one thing that bothers me is that the navbar on my zoints profiles will be completely out of sync with the rest of my site. Is there a work around?

The next build will remedy this. Two screenshots of what we're working on (pay no attention to the different links in the navbar, they will be the same by the time we're done)

Profile
http://network.zoints.com/images/t/progress5.png


Forum
http://network.zoints.com/images/t/progress6.png


The system will automatically do this. No more cut and paste of code.

mustangchris
11-20-2006, 04:24 PM
Our next version will allow for that automatically. The current version does not make them accessible. You may want to turn off the admincp > vbulletin options > zoints profile options until the next version is ready if it is bothering your members (sorry for the wait).


No worries :) I got it to where at least the admins/mods can see. It was a just general wondering I had :)

dirtycrow
11-20-2006, 05:07 PM
ok, my community is a foreign community and zoints will not mean anything to them, so I never joined. I understand I need to join to install this hack. How ould I affect my members? Would they know that they also belong to a larger community which is meaningless to them?

i have a similar circumstance. my forum is a private one set up for my fraternity. i rather not have my forums tie to anything outside of it. is that possible?

amnesia623
11-20-2006, 07:57 PM
DChapman -

Kudos on bringing in the header, navbar, and footer into zoints. I have to say that this was a huge concern for me, but now, once things get worked out, I will be buying zoints.

I am again excited about this. Thanks!

Abhean
11-20-2006, 08:44 PM
Looks like this is going to be a very promising idea. I have put it up and only a few difficulties so far.

pokerie
11-20-2006, 10:51 PM
One thing I don't think that's been answered, if I get the paid version for $120, can I make the URLs www.sitename.com/username instead of www.sitename.com/z/username (removing the z) ? This would be a big plus.

Would appreciate if you could clear this up DChapman:)

Zoints
11-20-2006, 11:00 PM
One thing I don't think that's been answered, if I get the paid version for $120, can I make the URLs www.sitename.com/username instead of www.sitename.com/z/username (removing the z) ? This would be a big plus.

Those with autonomous licenses could rename /z/ to /somethingelse/ but removing the subdirectory altogether would cause problems.

With that said, no more questions regarding the autonomous license will be answered here at vBulletin.org. This thread is for the free version of this modification. If you have any questions about the licensing, please take it to http://network.zoints.com

vBulletin.org is for free modifications and we as forum owners and coders need to respect that.

Thanks! :)

Zoints
11-20-2006, 11:02 PM
I am again excited about this. Thanks!

It is our sincere pleasure. I can't thank those of you who are providing constructive criticism enough. The improvements to Zoints Local wouldn't be possible without you :)

pokerie
11-20-2006, 11:29 PM
Those with autonomous licenses could rename /z/ to /somethingelse/ but removing the subdirectory altogether would cause problems.

With that said, no more questions regarding the autonomous license will be answered here at vBulletin.org. This thread is for the free version of this modification. If you have any questions about the licensing, please take it to http://network.zoints.com

vBulletin.org is for free modifications and we as forum owners and coders need to respect that.

Thanks! :)

That's fair enough. Perhaps you could start a thread in the paid modifications forum here for those who want the paid version? I'm not too sure how the paid forum is governed here but just an idea:)

Thanks again for the quick response and perhaps we'll be installing this on our forum some day!


Have you seen any examples of zoints integrated into a forum that doesn't stretch across the whole screen with the header and footer integration too? If you click "forum" in my sig, you'll see the kind of forum layout I'm asking about.

Zoints
11-21-2006, 01:38 AM
Have you seen any examples of zoints integrated into a forum that doesn't stretch across the whole screen with the header and footer integration too? If you click "forum" in my sig, you'll see the kind of forum layout I'm asking about.

The next version of Zoints Local will allow for fixed table widths. It'll be as easy as changing that default "100%" setting in the vbulletin admincp :)

Pulsorock
11-21-2006, 02:22 AM
I think you guys will REALLY like the improvements we have coming in the next version of Zoints Local. Stay tuned!
I'm very excited about the next release... any extimated date? :o

Qwest
11-21-2006, 03:34 PM
Would appreciate if you could clear this up DChapman:)

That's actually simple if you're running apache. mod_rewrite the /z to /

pokerie
11-21-2006, 07:42 PM
Cool, but is that against policy or anything DChapman?

Zoints
11-21-2006, 11:04 PM
I'm very excited about the next release... any extimated date? :o

We hope to get it to our QA team (and anyone else who wants to do a little testing) later tonight and release it to everyone tomorrow.
Cool, but is that against policy or anything DChapman?
Yes.

Pulsorock
11-22-2006, 02:32 AM
We hope to get it to our QA team (and anyone else who wants to do a little testing) later tonight and release it to everyone tomorrow.Sounds great.... thanks!

Zoints
11-22-2006, 03:00 AM
Sounds great.... thanks!

If you want to QA 1.0 Gold, please PM me on http://network.zoints.com (same username).

2006/11/21: 1.0
* Version Tracking - Keep up with what the latest version is
* Global searches (through zoints.com) now display members of searcher's own community first
* Ability to lock certain pages, so they show up on every profile, with the same content everywhere
* Ability to include the forum header and footer dynamically
* Ability to restrict image filesizes and space available per user
* Zoints Local now uses forum's avatar
* Users have the option of PM or Email notification for everything
* Users are taken to their own profile upon login from login page
* Removed ability to upload BMPs
* Usernames are now reflected in Zoints Local when that user uses Zoints Local again
* New tab: Old forum profile
* Various bugfixes

Pulsorock
11-22-2006, 03:06 AM
Excellent... is there a live site where I can view it? (zonitsdemo.com perhaps is running this version?)


Edit: just re-checked.... the new version is running at zonitsdemo.com now... looks great :)

Zoints
11-22-2006, 03:28 AM
Yes, I just uploaded it to ZointsDemo and turned the dynamic header and footer on.

http://www.zointsdemo.com/vbulletin/z/DChapman/

dirtycrow
11-22-2006, 03:59 AM
is there anyway to turn off the "communities" link and have the search only do local? simply awesome hack, and i really wish i could use it.

Pulsorock
11-22-2006, 04:03 AM
is there anyway to turn off the "communities" link and have the search only do local? simply awesome hack, and i really wish i could use it.The "Autonomous License" ($120.00 one time fee plus $20.00 per year thereafter.)... search the thread for more info... or PM DChapman.

Pulsorock
11-22-2006, 04:05 AM
Will this feature make it to the 1.0 Gold?
2. We're going to rework the "Communities" link in the header. Instead of pointing to http://zoints.com/communities, we are instead going to create a system where forum owners can network with each other. "Subnetworks". For example, if you own an auto detailing forum, it would be in your interest to network with a honda and a toyota forum that don't have auto detailing subforums. Then, when you or your members click on the Communities link, instead of being taken to Zoints, a dropdown appears with links to those communities you are networked with. Yes, if you're a forum owner with 5 forums, you can network with yourself.

Zoints
11-22-2006, 04:09 AM
is there anyway to turn off the "communities" link and have the search only do local? simply awesome hack, and i really wish i could use it.

You can do all of that with the Autonomous License. Please take enquiries regarding that to http://network.zoints.com as this thread is for the free version of this modification.

With that said, 1.0 Gold:

1. Always displays the results from your forum first if your members use the global search.

It'll say, "Members of [your] forum:" and display the results.

Then "Members of other forums:" after.

While we understand a few people dislike the idea of global search, it works in all directions. Communities are starting to see more and more traffic come their way thanks to it. The idea is to interconnect communities in a mutually beneficial manner. However, as we realize not everyone wants to operate in that manner, we do have the Autonomous License.


2. We were hoping to release this in 1.0 but couldn't quite make it happen. In release 1.1, the communities link at the top will no longer lead direct to Zoints. Instead, it will be a dropdown of other forums you have networked with. That way you can network with other forums and form "subnetworks" of communities that operate in synergy.

Zoints
11-22-2006, 04:11 AM
Will this feature make it to the 1.0 Gold?

Unfortunately not. :( We wanted to get 1.0 Gold out before the holiday (Thanksgiving here in the USA) and just couldn't make it happen if we worked to include that. It will be in 1.1 however.

Pulsorock
11-22-2006, 04:13 AM
Unfortunately not. We wanted to get 1.0 Gold out before the holiday (Thanksgiving here in the USA) and just couldn't make it happen if we worked to include that. It will be in 1.1 however.
ok... Happy Thanksgiving by the way... I left you a message at your Zoints profile ;)

Is there a way that the "communities" link opens in a new window? This way the user doesn't leave my site completely when clicking on it?

Zoints
11-22-2006, 04:22 AM
ok... Happy Thanksgiving by the way... I left you a message at your Zoints profile ;)

Is there a way that the "communities" link opens in a new window? This way the user doesn't leave my site completely when clicking on it?

Same to you :)

And yes, we could help you with that (opening in a new window). It would take about 30 seconds to remedy.

Pulsorock
11-22-2006, 04:39 AM
Same to you :)

And yes, we could help you with that (opening in a new window). It would take about 30 seconds to remedy.
Good!


btw.... check your comments on your profile at ZointsDemo... some notes on things I'd found that could be fixed. ;)

pokerie
11-22-2006, 06:55 AM
The "Autonomous License" ($120.00 one time fee plus $20.00 per year thereafter.).

I thought it was a one time fee of $120 or $20 per month? I didn't know it was $20 per year after paying the $120 too?:confused:

xfaethorx
11-22-2006, 07:41 AM
for what your getting $20 a year isn't that bad for an isolated version of zoints , if you hav 20 members your only asking for $1 a piece a year which isn't all that bad. You could even make that using a fixed banner advert in a 12 month period.

After all its a damn good hack and theres already a lot of active support for it. consider this, the only thing close to a hack like this was a tie in of over 6+ hacks that got close to this. Sure a lot of people release hacks for free even extremely complex ones but if you request that they change it to suit yourself I'm sure they'd ask for a charge.

$120 out the gate and then $20 a year after that aint all that bad. Photopost gallery is just as expensive if not more and provides much much less.

Anyway thats my two penneth on the subject from my point this isn't all that bad and the costs can be recouped.

pokerie
11-22-2006, 09:27 AM
I agree with everything you said buddy:) Just $120 once off + $20 per year is different to what was originally said of $120 once off or $20 per month;)

xfaethorx
11-22-2006, 11:55 AM
well I can't testify to that as I've missed whats been said previously and going back in threads is an alien thing for me ;) :p. I don't know what they have planned but their maybe a way to work up other payment solutions in the future?! After all from what I have seen this whole thing only really came up recently so you'll have to accept there might be some communication issues with defining the costings and working out whats best for all involved. After all they are offering us a solution to a requirement isolated board operators need, could have just been a plain no and left us all scuppered :).

Seriously though (and this is for everyone) $120 up front and $20 a year for the support / updates and actual interactions with the developers we are getting is great. Sure theres a few things that need sorting out but from what I can see they are well on the way to being rectified so it bodes the question what do they have planned next for it. After all this pricing is only for the likes of myself for everyone its free! <---- <--- <--- <--- free I tell you muhahahahaarrr..

I operate a private board so I need this myself as I don't want my members personal information being distributed around a community other than itself. I can't easily make a system so feature rich as this without either a serious investment of my own time or reverting to some cobbled together version of hacks which is missing a lot of what I really need.

MetalAges
11-22-2006, 01:57 PM
Help me fully understand please, everything I have seen/read tells me that if I run Zoints, all the features etc. run off of the Zoints site which each member of my forum will have a profile they can set up there. I get linked back as them being part of my forum under "my communities".

It seems to have cool features etc. but the part I am having trouble understanding (from a business stand point) is why I would want to send my users to another site for some added features and a chance someone else will click the link to hop back to my forum. It just seems that I am funneling users away and losing out on any ad revenue I would gain by keeping them on my own site.

I understand it is a trade off (added experience to the user vs. standard profile) but am I wrong about anything above? I recently installed Photopost Pro, and am installing Classifieds and have the links directory started as added features. I'm looking to add more of course, and I was real excitred when I thought Zoints could be installed on my own server and have upgrades to introduce new features etc. Is there any chance that that will be a possibility one day?

Please don't take this as an attack on your product, it seems really cool and could benefot a lot of people. Please correct anything I may have misunderstood from above.

Pulsorock
11-22-2006, 02:20 PM
MetalAges,
Zoints Local runs in your server. Your user don't need to leave your site to have the added features. They run locally in your server. See the working demo at www.zointsdemo.com

MetalAges
11-22-2006, 03:08 PM
Ahhhh, gotcha. I thought I read it that way, then I convinced myself otherwise because of seeing the Zoints links on other sites (user profiles) to the Zoints site.

WELL then....must check into this! :)

BrandiDup
11-22-2006, 05:49 PM
simply amazing! installing as we speak :)

pokerie
11-22-2006, 09:33 PM
After all from what I have seen this whole thing only really came up recently so you'll have to accept there might be some communication issues with defining the costings and working out whats best for all involved. After all they are offering us a solution to a requirement isolated board operators need, could have just been a plain no and left us all scuppered

Again, I entirely agree:) I've said numerous times it's a great hack and we should all be grateful. I just thought that it was $120 once off or $20 per month.

There may have been just a mix up somewhere and it's not actually $120 once off and $20 per year thereafter?

If we could clear that up it would be great anyway;)

Pulsorock
11-22-2006, 09:47 PM
For what I read (http://network.zoints.com/showpost.php?p=16355&postcount=9) is just like vB license method. You buy the license for $120. Then after the fisrt year, if you want download the updates and stuff, you renew your license. If not, you can continue using the software without updates.

pokerie
11-22-2006, 10:45 PM
Ah that's cool:) Just wait to hear from DChapman to confirm anyway:)

Zoints
11-23-2006, 02:31 AM
For those of you with a left or right column, the 1.0 release we're testing is displaying those quite nicely: example (http://indigosociety.com/z/yogamama2angels/).

Zoints
11-23-2006, 06:17 AM
While we're very pleased with the stability of Zoints Local 1.0's Gold release, due to the Thanksgiving holiday here in the USA, we have decided to delay its release until Monday. This will:

1. Allow for further testing to ensure maximum stability
2. Allow our engineers to enjoy the holiday

If you're dying for the current Gold release, simply PM me on network.zoints.com (same username) and i'll give you access to it.

Thanks for understanding :)

shete
11-23-2006, 10:05 AM
I uploaded all the UPLOAD files to the right directories , even the htaccess file .... AND the product .... everything right ... i used FlashFXP

and it just goes to a 404 NOT FOUND page ... dangit :hurt:

Zoints
11-23-2006, 10:16 AM
I uploaded all the UPLOAD files to the right directories , even the htaccess file .... AND the product .... everything right ... i used FlashFXP

and it just goes to a 404 NOT FOUND page ... dangit :hurt:

Go to yourdomain.com/z/install/manager.php and uncheck the mod_rewrite option. See if that helps.

lordnex
11-23-2006, 10:52 PM
I had read earlier last week (and I can't remmeber where now) but what do we need to do to get user uploaded pictures (and use avatars) to work properly? I've CHMOD'd things as instructed but files aren't showing up (and the software is not pulling the users avatar automatically). There are a few pieces of software that put pictures local (as opposed to in the database, which is preferable to most people I think. my database is a pain as it is to backup without pictures).

What needs to be done?

jon_argent
11-24-2006, 09:44 PM
Hi,

I've installed this software, but when I click on the my profile option in the zoints dropdown, it brings up a 404 not found error... the url is
http://www.landofthepinkbunnies.co.uk/z/Mr-C/

and the zoints is installed in the /z/ folder.

HELP!!!

Pulsorock
11-24-2006, 09:46 PM
Hi,

I've installed this software, but when I click on the my profile option in the zoints dropdown, it brings up a 404 not found error... the url is
http://www.landofthepinkbunnies.co.uk/z/Mr-C/

and the zoints is installed in the /z/ folder.

HELP!!!

Go to yourdomain.com/z/install/manager.php and uncheck the mod_rewrite option. See if that helps.read DChapman reply...

Zoints
11-26-2006, 06:31 AM
Hi,

I've installed this software, but when I click on the my profile option in the zoints dropdown, it brings up a 404 not found error... the url is
http://www.landofthepinkbunnies.co.uk/z/Mr-C/

and the zoints is installed in the /z/ folder.

HELP!!!

Is the .htaccess file in the /z/ folder? If so, please do what Pulsorock quoted above as that means mod_rewrite is not enabled on your server. If not, upload it from the rewrite folder to /z/

ragtek
11-26-2006, 03:54 PM
i have folowing problem:

when i'm logged in in the forum everything is ok

when i go on zoint then my girlfriend is logged in
but just there!
in the forum i'm logged in

Zoints
11-26-2006, 05:55 PM
i have folowing problem:

when i'm logged in in the forum everything is ok

when i go on zoint then my girlfriend is logged in
but just there!
in the forum i'm logged in

She is logged in on the Zoints profiles on your forum? Or are you talking about zoints.com? You don't have to be logged in at Zoints.com, it is a separate site and system.

jon_argent
11-26-2006, 06:33 PM
Is the .htaccess file in the /z/ folder? If so, please do what Pulsorock quoted above as that means mod_rewrite is not enabled on your server. If not, upload it from the rewrite folder to /z/

I had uploaded the htaccess file, yes... how can I find out if it is enabled or not, and if it is disabled, is there anyway to activate it?

Also, is there anyway to mod this to urls like username.forumurl.co.uk ?

DaiTengu
11-26-2006, 10:10 PM
Also, is there anyway to mod this to urls like username.forumurl.co.uk ?

No, there isn't any way to do this as it requires some very abnormal changes to the DNS entries and some changes to the way your webserver works as well. 95% of shared hosting providers won't make those changes.

shete
11-27-2006, 12:22 AM
Is the .htaccess file in the /z/ folder? If so, please do what Pulsorock quoted above as that means mod_rewrite is not enabled on your server. If not, upload it from the rewrite folder to /z/


How do you disable this option ???

d8tabyte
11-27-2006, 01:44 AM
edit your installation settings and set mod_rewrite to off.

Zoints
11-27-2006, 03:01 AM
I had uploaded the htaccess file, yes... how can I find out if it is enabled or not, and if it is disabled, is there anyway to activate it

Go to http://www.yourdomain.com/z/install/manager.php?cmd=settings (to to /zadmin.php then to "edit installation settings"). At the bottom is the mod_rewrite checkbox. Checking or unchecking turns it on and off.

ragtek
11-27-2006, 05:05 AM
She is logged in on the Zoints profiles on your forum? Or are you talking about zoints.com? You don't have to be logged in at Zoints.com, it is a separate site and system.
sorry, i'm talking about the zoints profile on my site

Rik Brown
11-27-2006, 10:13 AM
I'd love to give this mod a try. I see that it makes database changes. Does it actually change the vb database tables or simply add new tables to the database? If I need to do an un-install, what would I need to do to return my vb database to its normal/prior condition?

Thanks. -- Rik

Zoints
11-27-2006, 07:23 PM
I'd love to give this mod a try. I see that it makes database changes. Does it actually change the vb database tables or simply add new tables to the database? If I need to do an un-install, what would I need to do to return my vb database to its normal/prior condition?

It only creates NEW tables. And we provide you the choice of installing in the same DB your vBulletin is installed in or a separate one. To return everything to its previous condition, we have an automated uninstaller too :)

Zoints
11-27-2006, 07:24 PM
sorry, i'm talking about the zoints profile on my site

That's weird. Logout on your Zoints profile and see what happens please.

Fox2k
11-28-2006, 02:15 AM
um, is there any way to get the search and community features to not go to an external site? very unprofessional imo..this would be an awesome mod if it could be adjusted to not use the zoink.com externalities.

Fox2k
11-28-2006, 02:34 AM
It only creates NEW tables. And we provide you the choice of installing in the same DB your vBulletin is installed in or a separate one. To return everything to its previous condition, we have an automated uninstaller too :)

How do I recover my regsitration code so I can uninstall the software?

Strike3ForumsMH
11-28-2006, 02:47 AM
um, is there any way to get the search and community features to not go to an external site? very unprofessional imo..this would be an awesome mod if it could be adjusted to not use the zoink.com externalities.
With an Autonomy License that is indeed possible. It allows forum owners to run an instance of Zoints Local with their forums that is completely autonomous from the Zoints system.

Contact DChapman at network.zoints.com for more info if that's what you're seeking.

ragtek
11-28-2006, 08:20 AM
That's weird. Logout on your Zoints profile and see what happens please.

now i'm on a pc where my girlfriend wasn't logged in
now i go to my profile=> everything is fine
when i go to the forum back, i'm logged out

i think i made was wrong by the installation
i'll try it today to install it it new

Zoints
11-28-2006, 08:50 AM
now i'm on a pc where my girlfriend wasn't logged in
now i go to my profile=> everything is fine
when i go to the forum back, i'm logged out

Please do the following:

1. Login to your vBulletin admincp

2. Go to vbulletin options > Cookies and HTTP Header Options

3. Change cookie domain > Suggested Settings to .yourdomain.com

See if that helps.

Zoints
11-28-2006, 09:06 AM
Zoints Local 1.0 has gone gold! Thank you ever so kindly to those of you who helped us test this and provided feedback during the RC process. You rock.

Changelog

2006/11/28: 1.0
* Version Tracking - Keep up with what the latest version is
* Global searches (through zoints.com) now display members of searcher's own community first
* Ability to lock certain pages, so they show up on every profile, with the same content everywhere
* Ability to include the forum header and footer dynamically
* Ability to restrict image filesizes and space available per user
* Zoints Local now uses forum's avatar
* Users have the option of PM or Email notification for everything
* Users are taken to their own profile upon login from login page
* Removed ability to upload BMPs
* Usernames are now reflected in Zoints Local when that user uses Zoints Local again
* New tab: Old forum profile
* Various bugfixes

Upgrade Instructions

1. Download the new zip file and overwrite the existing files

2. After uploading the new files, access /z/install/manager.php in your browser

3. Click "Upgrade Zoints" and then click on "1.0"

That's it! :)


2.1.1 of the vBulletin product is ALSO available. You will need to import that via the vBulletin product manager and select overwrite to yes.

wizardan
11-28-2006, 09:09 AM
My apologies if this question has been covered...
Are there any issues with a server running PHP 5.0.4?

Zoints
11-28-2006, 09:15 AM
My apologies if this question has been covered...
Are there any issues with a server running PHP 5.0.4?

There are no known issues with php 5. We originally designed this system for php 5 and had to change the code a little to work with php 4 too :(

I see you've already hit the install button. Are you having any problems?

wizardan
11-28-2006, 09:30 AM
Thanks for the reply:)

My first install had a few minor issues... postbit link not showing up, etc... That was on my main forum, which is running on a PHP 4.4.4 server script. Most likely style conflict of some kind. Not worried about it for now.

A fresh install to a new forum we're building on a PHP 5 script server is giving me a little grief. The installer won't run. I need to recheck my file uploads one last time I suppose.

May I ask if there is a specific address where I could put in for a support ticket?

pokerie
11-28-2006, 09:30 AM
Great news about it reaching gold:) is the autonomy version now gold too?

Just one thing that could be a problem: When the user is logged in they are automatically taken to their profile, this could be quite annoying if somebody click reply to a thread, knowing, that as per usual, they will have to log once they click the reply button, they log in, and then they are taken to the reply to topic page usually. Or else if a user is viewing a topic they want to reply to and log in any other way, the page they are viewing will refresh with them logged in as it is now with VB where as in both circumstances it sounds like zoints will redirect to their profile each time meaning they will have to navigate back to the page they were previously viewing.

Could you please also clear up the pricing for the autonomy version?

Is it $120 a year plus $20 per year for each subsequent year or is it just $120 once off payment?

If it is $120 plus $20, is this $20 just for support and updates or is it mandatory just to have zoints running on your site regardless of updates?

thanks:)

Zoints
11-28-2006, 09:38 AM
My first install had a few minor issues... postbit link not showing up, etc.

If you were doing the edits manually, that is fixed in the 2.1.1 vBulletin product. It was a bug (sorry about that). If you didn't try the manual edit, then it's likely a conflict with another hack and a manual edit of the template should resolve the issue.

A fresh install to a new forum we're building on a PHP 5 script server is giving me a little grief. The installer won't run. I need to recheck my file uploads one last time I suppose.

Did you download the release we just put out? We fixed a few issues which could cause what you're experiencing.

May I ask if there is a specific address where I could put in for a support ticket?

http://zoints.com/support.z -- we'd be happy to help you in any way we can.

Zoints
11-28-2006, 09:46 AM
Great news about it reaching gold:) is the autonomy version now gold too?
Yes, though we are working to create a separate zip file for autonomous people so you don't have to do the annoying edits. That'll be ready tomorrow.

Just one thing that could be a problem: When the user is logged in they are automatically taken to their profile, this could be quite annoying if somebody click reply to a thread, knowing, that as per usual, they will have to log once they click the reply button, they log in, and then they are taken to the reply to topic page usually.
If you login on the forum, you get taken to the forum. If you login via the profile login, you now get taken to the profile. Whereas you were taken to the forum in both instances before. Sorry for the confusion with that :)

Could you please also clear up the pricing for the autonomy version?

PLEASE respect that vbulletin.org is only for free modifications. It is a flat rate of $120.00 for one year. If you want autonomous code updates after that, then you pay $20.00 per year as it takes a lot of work for us to make a separate build. Again, please take any further license questions to http://network.zoints.com. Thanks :)

ZiG
11-28-2006, 09:51 AM
afrter updating the files and attempting to access anything /z/ i am getting the message:

IN_PORTAL_AREA or THIS_SCRIPT must be defined to continue

Soup
11-28-2006, 10:08 AM
afrter updating the files and attempting to access anything /z/ i am getting the message:

IN_PORTAL_AREA or THIS_SCRIPT must be defined to continue


Hi!

What version of vBulletin are you running? All version of vBulletin from 3.5.0 to 3.6.4 only require either THIS_SCRIPT or VB_AREA to be set, not IN_PORTAL_AREA (which does not come up at all in the default vBulletin code), or can you think of any hack you have installed that might have changed this behavior?

ZiG
11-28-2006, 10:11 AM
im running 3.6.0

Zoints
11-28-2006, 10:14 AM
im running 3.6.0

We now include global.php which means some hack you have installed is like conflicting and causing this. Can you do one of the following:

1. Go through and disable hacks one by one and try to access /z/ to figure out which the culprit is.

Or

2. Provide us with a temp admin account by submitting the information to http://zoints.com/support.z

pokerie
11-28-2006, 10:26 AM
Thanks for the reply, sounds good and I hope it's working well for you:)

wizardan
11-28-2006, 10:38 AM
If you were doing the edits manually, that is fixed in the 2.1.1 vBulletin product. It was a bug (sorry about that). If you didn't try the manual edit, then it's likely a conflict with another hack and a manual edit of the template should resolve the issue.



Did you download the release we just put out? We fixed a few issues which could cause what you're experiencing.



http://zoints.com/support.z -- we'd be happy to help you in any way we can.
Downloaded the newest release.
Will try on both boards and let you know.
Thanks for the link:)

wizardan
11-28-2006, 12:03 PM
Pleased to report that our forum using PHP 4.4.4 is now running this excellent add-on optimally, thanks to the newest product version just released.
Our forum using PHP 5, however, remains troublesome.

Will either PM you or contact at the link you provided with further details if I can't figure it out.

Thanks for a great hack:)

SnapOff Racing
11-28-2006, 01:05 PM
love this hack to death and installed it but i have a couple questions...i lost user info by adding this hack on the member's userpage...

i like that clicking on the user's name brings em to their zoits profile, but it leaves out some forum information/links that used to be there (for warning/tracking ips/user options/etc)

also the location tracking of where the user is on the forum...anyway to get this to work with all the stuff that used to be there?

SnapOff Racing
11-28-2006, 01:26 PM
perhaps i could better rephrase my question....as it is right now...there's a link in the postbit that links you to the zoints profile...i want to leave that and keep the default vbulletin profile for the user when u click on their actual username...how do i go about doing this?

influence
11-28-2006, 02:51 PM
perhaps i could better rephrase my question....as it is right now...there's a link in the postbit that links you to the zoints profile...i want to leave that and keep the default vbulletin profile for the user when u click on their actual username...how do i go about doing this?

there is a option/tab for you to view members vbulletin profile while u are on their zoints profile and u can do everything you normally do there just like before without zoints. I think thats what he said before if I am exactly correct since I haven't tried or install it yet.

anyway, DC please check your PM

FlyBoy73
11-28-2006, 04:05 PM
David,

Glad you guys finally made the move to this as an option. Do you have any links to zoints users that are currently using the autonomy version? Please post or PM me them if possible. I'm definitely interested now.

Thanks,
David

Zoints
11-28-2006, 07:03 PM
perhaps i could better rephrase my question....as it is right now...there's a link in the postbit that links you to the zoints profile...i want to leave that and keep the default vbulletin profile for the user when u click on their actual username...how do i go about doing this?

As Influence said above there is an actual page called "Forum Profile" that pulls the entire default forum profile. If you want to have that active on your member's pages by default, go to /z/zadmin.php > pages and move it to the active by default area.

OR, there is also an option in vbulletin admincp > vbulletin options > Zoints profile options to have admin and moderators taken to the default profile automatically. Just toggle it to yes.

We're also planning a means to have you start at the page of your choice. So you'll be able to have everyone start at that default profile page if that's what you prefer.

SnapOff Racing
11-28-2006, 08:17 PM
ok thanks guys...i used the vbulletin options to make it so admins can see old profiles...thanks guys!

Zoints
11-29-2006, 01:15 AM
Pleased to report that our forum using PHP 4.4.4 is now running this excellent add-on optimally, thanks to the newest product version just released.
Our forum using PHP 5, however, remains troublesome.

Will either PM you or contact at the link you provided with further details if I can't figure it out.

Thanks for a great hack:)

Please contact us soon as you get a chance as we'd like to get this resolved for you and make sure there isn't an issue that will affect others. Thanks!

burntire
11-29-2006, 02:57 AM
Very Nice Product.
It is still a little buggy.
I will do some more testing and record the problems I find and post on your support forum.

But for the most part this looks like a great product.

Gooses
11-29-2006, 04:22 AM
This is by far one of the greatest modifications I have ever seen or used. Thank you so, so much for making this.

Just one question though; do I have to leave the folder named "z" so e.g.: "www.example.com/forums/z/profile"

does that 'z' need to stay z? Will it mess things up if I change that folder name?

Zoints
11-29-2006, 08:31 AM
Very Nice Product.
It is still a little buggy.
I will do some more testing and record the problems I find and post on your support forum.

But for the most part this looks like a great product.

Thank you :)

I'll NEVER call any product we put out bug free because we move too fast with development. But as you saw, we also get things fixed pretty quick ;) Thanks again for your help!

Zoints
11-29-2006, 08:33 AM
does that 'z' need to stay z? Will it mess things up if I change that folder name?

For the free version of this modification, we do ask that it stays. Zoints Local is designed to allow people to travel across the communities of the Internet with ease. Because of that, we need to keep a small degree of standardization so that people know where they're at :)

Pulsorock
11-29-2006, 08:36 AM
Hi David!

I posted what I think is a bug in here:
http://network.zoints.com/showthread.php?t=2519

Zoints
11-29-2006, 07:06 PM
Hi David!

I posted what I think is a bug in here:
http://network.zoints.com/showthread.php?t=2519

Thank you :)

sambah
11-29-2006, 11:29 PM
Prices provided above.

Advantages over the free version? There aren't any in my opinion. What would be the advantages for a city in the USA that blew up all their major roads in and out? Do you really think that will keep the people in that want to leave the city? It sure keeps lots of people out and stops all kinds of interaction. If communities truly become interconnected (and they will, even if its not Zoints that pulls it off) we're going to have a few virtual North Korea's on the internet I think.

If it is your opinion that the autonomy version provides less benefits than this one, then why is this free, and the autonomy version $120?

influence
11-29-2006, 11:54 PM
I wanna get the autonomy version but then my heart so why should I because there is not much of a difference between paying and using a free version except for the linking thats it. I just hope the photo album feature was still there. I dont know why they took that out.

Pulsorock
11-30-2006, 12:00 AM
I want to share some of the profile mods my users have done in just a few hours of the add-on being installed on my site.


http://www.pulsorock.com/z/b!a/
http://www.pulsorock.com/z/Little-Mermaid/
http://www.pulsorock.com/z/danitus/
http://www.pulsorock.com/z/jonson/
http://www.pulsorock.com/z/sweetnsour/
http://www.pulsorock.com/z/tangerine_dream/


Among others least complex than those listed, but very cool profiles...

.... and of course... mine... simple, but nice:
http://www.pulsorock.com/z/WebMaster/

Zoints
11-30-2006, 01:09 AM
If it is your opinion that the autonomy version provides less benefits than this one, then why is this free, and the autonomy version $120?

Zoints Local is designed to usher in an era of forum owners working together in a mutually beneficial manner. The sooner we can all do that, the sooner forums become the center of interaction on the net. As a forum owner, it bothers me that social networks like MySpace get all the headlines and have 2 million people joining per day. All of us know that the quality of the content and interactions on message board based communities is far and above greater than what goes on there.

The problem is size. Separate, we're all mere specks in this vast internet. Together, working in a mutually beneficial manner, we are far bigger than MySpace. Zoints is simply the necessary connector. You'll never hear me talk about how great Zoints is. You'll only hear me talk about how great the communities are and what a positive difference they make for so many.

Autonomy goes against all that. Zoints isn't going to deny someone use of the software because they don't have the same vision we have. But because it takes time and resources to provide that separate version that goes against what our overall mission is, then we need to charge for it.

Mark my words. Interconnected communities operating in a mutually beneficial manner are the future of the internet.

Pulsorock
11-30-2006, 01:14 AM
Zoints Local is designed to usher in an era of forum owners working together in a mutually beneficial manner. The sooner we can all do that, the sooner forums become the center of interaction on the net. As a forum owner, it bothers me that social networks like MySpace get all the headlines and have 2 million people joining per day. All of us know that the quality of the content and interactions on message board based communities is far and above greater than what goes on there.

The problem is size. Separate, we're all mere specks in this vast internet. Together, working in a mutually beneficial manner, we are far bigger than MySpace. Zoints is simply the necessary connector. You'll never hear me talk about how great Zoints is. You'll only hear me talk about how great the communities are and what a positive difference they make for so many.

Mark my words. Interconnected communities operating in a mutually beneficial manner are the future of the internet.Amen my brotha' hehehe ;)

basketmen
11-30-2006, 04:15 AM
I have problem

i use lattest zoints local in my forum

when Add a Member to Your Network and press Add Member button always get error

The page cannot be displayed


but if you try that member to network again it had done :


You have already requested to add this member to your network. Your request is still pending approval. Until approved, you may not try to add this member again or add them to any additional groups


can anybody get answer of my problem? i dont want always get error messages when someone add other member to network

Zoints
11-30-2006, 04:20 AM
when Add a Member to Your Network and press Add Member button always get error

What url are you at when you get that error?


but if you try that member to network again it had done :

That means the request went through to them. You just didn't get redirected properly for some reason.

basketmen
11-30-2006, 04:30 AM
Yes you right the request is done, my problem is just always get message error after add someone to be network

you can try add someone in my forum www.indonesiaindonesia.com/forum
username : test
password : test


i had reinstall 3 times and still get that errors, is it something wrong in my host?

Zoints
11-30-2006, 07:46 AM
By forum owner request, we are releasing a new vBulletin product (2.1.2) with some great options. And since we're doing that, we decided to release Zoints Local 1.0.1 to deal with a few bugs too. Let's talk about the vBulletin product first:

We were using "Zoints" all over the place, and you folks didn't like it. No problem, with the new vBulletin product, you can change the name of your profile system MUCH easier. In addition, you can change the postbit links and link to member blogs in the navbar as you can see with the below screenshot.

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/external/2006/11/1.png


Upgrade Instructions

1. Unzip the file.
2. Access your vbulletin admincp
3. Import the .xml product via the product manager (set overwrite to yes)


Changelog

2006/11/29 - 2.1.2
* Ability to change various link names in the options
* Blog link in navbar (off by default)

Zoints
11-30-2006, 07:49 AM
As stated above, we decided to release Zoints Local 1.0.1. There aren't any critical bugs, just a few annoyances, the biggest being the media block decided to die on us. In addition, we removed some references to Zoints from the profile side of things so you can continue to brand everything as yours :)

Upgrade Instructions

1. Download the new zip file and overwrite the existing files

2. After uploading the new files, access /z/install/manager.php in your browser

3. Select "Upgrade Zoints" and then click on "1.0.1"

That's it!


Changelog

2006/11/29: 1.0.1
* Avatar maximum size restriction
* Avatar display issue fixed
* Pulling headinclude template for vBulletin
* Pending friends issue fixed
* Media block fixed
* Various streamlining of text / names
* Blocking users fix
* Various misc bugfixes
* Removed various references to "Zoints"

Greek76
11-30-2006, 08:27 AM
Upgraded and its went nice and smooth. Great job! My only question is on the Enable profile link in post bit I dont see a link besides the one above the user name which say's view example zoints profile. Is it because Im using postbit legacy possibly? If so is their a way to fix it? Thanks

Zoints
11-30-2006, 09:00 AM
Upgraded and its went nice and smooth. Great job! My only question is on the Enable profile link in post bit I dont see a link besides the one above the user name which say's view example zoints profile. Is it because Im using postbit legacy possibly? If so is their a way to fix it? Thanks

Thank you for your kind words.

I took a quick look at your forum and my guess is because of all the hacks you have in your postbit, the automated system wasn't able to add the link. In the readme file in the zip, we provide instructions for manually editing the postbit to add it.

But what do you mean by "View example Zoints profile"? Where are you seeing that?

taurus999s
11-30-2006, 02:40 PM
Hi, I am all new to vBulletin and all and Zoints looked promising. Could you tell me if Zoints is fits the requirements?

What I am building is a gaming community. In this community, I have people who play different games i.e. World of Warcraft, Eve Online and etc. Within each game, e.g. World of Warcraft, the players are grouped into 'guilds'. What I would like to do is to pull together all the players regardless of game and 'guilds' into a single forum.

Then I would like to post 'guild info' on some sort of a central page/database so that individual gamers could link themselves to one or more 'guilds' in one or more games. Each 'guild' would need to have some data points/information defined i.e. Guild Name, Server, Server Type, Guild's Home Website, Membership requirements, Raiding Hours, Contact, Current Status, Last Updated Date, Dungeon 1: Farming Status etc.

Is Zoints The plugin to use for the above purpose? If not, would you be able to recommend one? :) I am going blind from all the posts I am reading. From the description, Zoints looks promising but the description is to vague.

Thank you.

Greek76
11-30-2006, 03:43 PM
Thank you for your kind words.

I took a quick look at your forum and my guess is because of all the hacks you have in your postbit, the automated system wasn't able to add the link. In the readme file in the zip, we provide instructions for manually editing the postbit to add it.

But what do you mean by "View example Zoints profile"? Where are you seeing that?


If you click on a user name it will show"View (username) Zoints profile".
Ok that worked I edited postbit legacy template. Thanks for your quick response.

Zoints
11-30-2006, 06:40 PM
Then I would like to post 'guild info' on some sort of a central page/database so that individual gamers could link themselves to one or more 'guilds' in one or more games. Each 'guild' would need to have some data points/information defined i.e. Guild Name, Server, Server Type, Guild's Home Website, Membership requirements, Raiding Hours, Contact, Current Status, Last Updated Date, Dungeon 1: Farming Status etc.

Are you looking ot use Zoints Local to create the central page/database? Or to do what you outlined in the rest of the post?

influence
11-30-2006, 08:41 PM
is the photo album feature ever going to be included to zoints local like the centralized zoints product?

AricM
11-30-2006, 10:01 PM
First off, great product you guys have. My members are just loving it.

I have noticed a possible bug? Usernames with a '&' in them don't seem to work (error message is "no user found") when using the rewrite method.

Also, when changing a user's username on the forum, it doesn't change their name in the z_user table. I had to do it manually. Maybe a "rebuild" function would help :)

That is all.

Keep up the good work!

projectego
11-30-2006, 10:25 PM
* projectego clicks install :)

Zoints
11-30-2006, 11:08 PM
is the photo album feature ever going to be included to zoints local like the centralized zoints product?

The photo album on Zoints Central isn't that good yet. There are far better (even free) photo albums available. Our present plans call for allowing easy integration with the various albums on the market today. That will be done in the next major feature release.

* projectego clicks install :)

Thanks :) We look forward to working with you.

Zoints
11-30-2006, 11:11 PM
First off, great product you guys have. My members are just loving it.

Thank you. And it's great to hear your members are enjoying it :)

I have noticed a possible bug? Usernames with a '&' in them don't seem to work (error message is "no user found") when using the rewrite method.

Also, when changing a user's username on the forum, it doesn't change their name in the z_user table. I had to do it manually. Maybe a "rebuild" function would help :)

Both of those are working as designed. Here's how it works:

1. If a user has a special character in their name, because we show their name in the url, it would create a problem. Therefore, the first time they access their profile, they'll be asked to create a different name for their profile that doesn't have a special character. After they do that, then everything will work normally.

2. Their username will be updated after they access their profile once the name change is made.

AricM
11-30-2006, 11:36 PM
Awesome, thanks :)

htrshgytrs
12-01-2006, 03:51 AM
loving this mod, thanks a bunch!

One question though, is there a way to show members who have updated their zoints profile (ideally in the postbit)? We have 23000 members and i'd like to be able to see who is using this system without randomly checking.

eg replace this edit;

<if condition="$show['zointsprofile']">
<div><a href="$vboptions[zointsprofile_zurl]?id=$post[userid]" target="_blank">$vbphrase[zointsprofile_my_zoints_profile]</a></div>
</if>

with output something like;


View My Profile!
Updated x days ago

Also, would be nice to have a block that show the 10 most recent updated profiles. Unless i've missed this somewhere already?

thanks again
Steve

Zoints
12-01-2006, 08:09 AM
loving this mod, thanks a bunch!

It's our pleasure :) Thank you for utilizing it!

One question though, is there a way to show members who have updated their zoints profile (ideally in the postbit)?

Interesting idea Steve. In your opinion (and others are welcome to chime in) what should trip the system as being updated? Style edit? Photo edit? Blog entry? What else?

Zoints
12-01-2006, 08:13 AM
Me and the folks behind the scenes here wanted to put out a quick thank you to those of you who were kind enough to nominate Zoints Local for Modification of the Month (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=132928). Thanks!

htrshgytrs
12-01-2006, 09:55 AM
Interesting idea Steve. In your opinion (and others are welcome to chime in) what should trip the system as being updated? Style edit? Photo edit? Blog entry? What else?

Thats a great question, one which i couldn't decide before i posted. I would say an overall profile edit (any/all part/s), as once that has been changed its clear people are aware of the new system.

There are other mods around that use carp RSS to update the post bit with recent blog posts, thats the sort of 'liveness' i'm looking for. ie, x member updated their x , x days ago.

And a 'recently updated' block would promote usage amongst other members.

taurus999s
12-01-2006, 11:06 AM
Are you looking ot use Zoints Local to create the central page/database? Or to do what you outlined in the rest of the post?

I am looking to see if Zoints could do most of the listed stuff i.e. perhaps a moderator controlled 'list of communities' which would be equivalent to 'guilds' and/or 'games'. So people could sign up for each community (guild or games). Then I could appoint leaders of sort who could create a specific page for the community (guild) posting relevant info such as their own home page etc.

Is this requirement too far removed from Zoints? What I am trying to do is build a community by exposing folks to more than just their own little community but perhaps they may wish to take part in more than one community i.e. multiple games.

I am trying to understand it at the conceptual level. I will give it a test drive this weekend.

Thank you.

Pulsorock
12-01-2006, 03:07 PM
Me and the folks behind the scenes here wanted to put out a quick thank you to those of you who were kind enough to nominate Zoints Local for Modification of the Month (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=132928). Thanks!
Your're welcome....

Zoints got my vote.. :)

Greek76
12-01-2006, 05:33 PM
Zoints local and seo has to be by far the best mods. Within a month Im on the first page of google under greek forum lol. This Zoints local I believe is going to be a hit.

DChapman it would be great if their was an option to add an mp3 file to the blogs like you can in myspace.

Zoints
12-01-2006, 05:53 PM
I am looking to see if Zoints could do most of the listed stuff i.e. perhaps a moderator controlled 'list of communities' which would be equivalent to 'guilds' and/or 'games'. So people could sign up for each community (guild or games). Then I could appoint leaders of sort who could create a specific page for the community (guild) posting relevant info such as their own home page etc.

Is this requirement too far removed from Zoints? What I am trying to do is build a community by exposing folks to more than just their own little community but perhaps they may wish to take part in more than one community i.e. multiple games.

While pretty much anything is possible with the platform, it wouldn't be able to do what you're asking for out of the box and would require some hacking. As we move forward, what you're wanting to accomplish will become a much easier task as we add more functionality. As much as I'd love to sell you on this as it being exactly what you're looking for, I don't think it is.

Zoints
12-01-2006, 05:55 PM
DChapman it would be great if their was an option to add an mp3 file to the blogs like you can in myspace.

On the blog? Can you link me to an example of what you're looking for? Thanks.

Zoints
12-01-2006, 05:57 PM
There are other mods around that use carp RSS to update the post bit with recent blog posts, thats the sort of 'liveness' i'm looking for. ie, x member updated their x , x days ago.

Can you link me to an implementation like you speak of? I'd like to learn more about it. Thank you.

And a 'recently updated' block would promote usage amongst other members.

Agreed. Your idea would be a significant value add to any community.

htrshgytrs
12-01-2006, 11:43 PM
Can you link me to an implementation like you speak of? I'd like to learn more about it. Thank you.

eg link (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=91781&highlight=carp+rss)

thanks in advance :cool:

Zoints
12-02-2006, 07:32 PM
We've released 2.1.3 of the vBulletin product. There was an issue for people performing manual edits of the navbar. Unless you were doing manual edits of the navbar, you don't need to upgrade.

eg link (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=91781&highlight=carp+rss)


Heheh, thank you.

thenetbox
12-03-2006, 03:36 PM
Hi.. after upgrading I get the following error when I click on the blog link:

Fatal error: Cannot redeclare class z_profile:blog in /home/forum/z/blog.php on line 11

gamerzindo
12-03-2006, 07:40 PM
thankssssssssssssssssssss install.. awesome

Zoints
12-03-2006, 10:53 PM
Hi.. after upgrading I get the following error when I click on the blog link:

Fatal error: Cannot redeclare class z_profile:blog in /home/forum/z/blog.php on line 11

What version of php are you running?

thenetbox
12-04-2006, 10:44 AM
What version of php are you running?

The version is:


----@----- [~]# php --version
PHP 4.4.4 (cli) (built: Sep 17 2006 18:47:31)
Copyright (c) 1997-2006 The PHP Group
Zend Engine v1.3.0, Copyright (c) 1998-2004 Zend Technologies


actually I uninstalled another mod and it started working.

Canis Firebrand
12-04-2006, 04:54 PM
I just downloaded both zip files from this thread and got it installed. Everything looks to be working fine.

One thing that is odd, when I go into the Zoints Local Admin area, I see this message at the top.

You are currently running version "1.0"

The latest version is: 1.0.1
Version 1.0.1 of Zoints Local and a new vBulletin product are now available and can be downloaded here. There are no critical bug fixes in these versions, just a few annoyances fixed and a fix for the media block.

Zoints
12-04-2006, 05:51 PM
The version is:

----@----- [~]# php --version
PHP 4.4.4 (cli) (built: Sep 17 2006 18:47:31)
Copyright (c) 1997-2006 The PHP Group
Zend Engine v1.3.0, Copyright (c) 1998-2004 Zend Technologies

actually I uninstalled another mod and it started working.

So that we can efficiently assist others who might run into this issue, what mod did you uninstall? Thanks!

amnesia623
12-04-2006, 08:27 PM
Is there a way to enable the full wysiwyg editor for members who make there own pages?

For example: I add a page and set up the name and style. On my new page I choose the option to edit content. When the edit page appears I am presented with just a basic text input box (not even a bold/italics option. Is there a way to allow for the full text editor to be used (or to use HTML?)

Thanks

thenetbox
12-04-2006, 08:51 PM
I removed vblogetin beta 2

So that we can efficiently assist others who might run into this issue, what mod did you uninstall? Thanks!

Zoints
12-04-2006, 09:10 PM
You are currently running version "1.0"

The latest version is: 1.0.1
Version 1.0.1 of Zoints Local and a new vBulletin product are now available and can be downloaded here. There are no critical bug fixes in these versions, just a few annoyances fixed and a fix for the media block.

Just to let you know, I'm not ignoring you. We've had one other report of this and are investigating. I'll let you know when I know more.

Zoints
12-04-2006, 09:12 PM
Is there a way to enable the full wysiwyg editor for members who make there own pages?

For example: I add a page and set up the name and style. On my new page I choose the option to edit content. When the edit page appears I am presented with just a basic text input box (not even a bold/italics option. Is there a way to allow for the full text editor to be used (or to use HTML?)
Is that turned on for your forum? The system uses whatever you use on your forum. As an example from the zointsdemo site, see the attached image.

Zoints
12-04-2006, 09:12 PM
I removed vblogetin beta 2

Interesting, thanks for the info, I appreciate it.

amnesia623
12-04-2006, 09:22 PM
Just to let you know, I'm not ignoring you. We've had one other report of this and are investigating. I'll let you know when I know more.

I, too, am experiencing this on the board I am developing.

Pulsorock
12-05-2006, 03:03 AM
Is that turned on for your forum? The system uses whatever you use on your forum. As an example from the zointsdemo site, see the attached image.
I do have WYSIWYG enabled in my forum, but I only get Standard editor in ZL.

Adrian Schneider
12-05-2006, 06:02 AM
Interesting, thanks for the info, I appreciate it.
The main vBlogetin class is (unfortunately) named "Blog". I'll see if I can rename it soon without breaking anything.

Zoints
12-05-2006, 06:29 PM
I do have WYSIWYG enabled in my forum, but I only get Standard editor in ZL.

When you say standard editor, do you mean just a plain text box or the one in the screenshot above in post 444?
The main vBlogetin class is (unfortunately) named "Blog". I'll see if I can rename it soon without breaking anything.
That's mighty cool of you. Thanks.

dodgeboard.com
12-05-2006, 10:13 PM
I had 1.0 RC2 installed and working just fine for the past couple weeks.

Today, out of the blue I cannot access any admin features. Iget this error when trying to access mysite/forums/z/zadmin.php

Zoints Message
You do not have sufficient privileges to view this page.

I figured it was just a bug, so I upgraded to the new version. Uploaded the files with overwrite but am gettgin the same error when trying to access:

mysite/forums/z/install/manager.php

Zoints Message
You do not have sufficient privileges to view this page.

Cleared cookies, tried from another computer, not sure what to do. Submitted a support ticket to Zoints with administrator credentials.

Please help me DChapman!



EDIT: Duh!!! NEVERMIND!! I must have accidently installed it under my regular posting ID. David got me squared away.

Pulsorock
12-06-2006, 12:26 AM
When you say standard editor, do you mean just a plain text box or the one in the screenshot above in post 444?
Plain text... as showed in this screenshot.

Zoints
12-06-2006, 12:36 AM
I just downloaded both zip files from this thread and got it installed. Everything looks to be working fine.

One thing that is odd, when I go into the Zoints Local Admin area, I see this message at the top.

You are currently running version "1.0"

The latest version is: 1.0.1
Version 1.0.1 of Zoints Local and a new vBulletin product are now available and can be downloaded here. There are no critical bug fixes in these versions, just a few annoyances fixed and a fix for the media block.

We finally got this one tracked down. It happens only on new installs. You can solve it one of three ways:

1. Run the update (even though you are already updated, it won't hurt anything)
2. Wait for 1.0.2
3. Execute this sql query:

REPLACE INTO zp_settings VALUES ('version', '1.0.1')
Sorry for the trouble.

Zoints
12-06-2006, 01:15 AM
Plain text... as showed in this screenshot.

I must admit, I have no idea where that second screenshot is from :D

Anyway, what is your setting for:

vbulletin admincp > vbulletin options > Message Posting Interface Options > Enable Clickable Message Formatting Controls > Full editor ?

Pulsorock
12-06-2006, 02:49 AM
I must admit, I have no idea where that second screenshot is from :D

Anyway, what is your setting for:

vbulletin admincp > vbulletin options > Message Posting Interface Options > Enable Clickable Message Formatting Controls > Full editor ?
The second screenshot is from my options in the User CP.

Attached is the options in the admin panel for
vbulletin admincp > vbulletin options > Message Posting Interface Options > Enable Clickable Message Formatting Controls > Enable Standard & WYSIWYG Controls.

Zoints
12-06-2006, 05:33 PM
If you utilize vbjournal and would like to import the old vbjournal entries into our blog system, we now have an importer here (http://network.zoints.com/showthread.php?t=2179).

DannyITR
12-07-2006, 01:42 AM
Hello,

I have a huge forum with myspace profile re-write pro customized and integrated with Photopost. I'm not satisfied with the functionality of my profiles yet and I need something better. This could be an option however I still hold a grudge against Zoints for the fiasco you pulled at the beginning. I'm unsure if I want to do business with you or not but this lite version is a step in the right direction and I may reconsider.

Can the users change the colors and layout of their pages themselves?

Zoints
12-07-2006, 01:59 AM
Hi Danny,

I still hold a grudge against Zoints for the fiasco you pulled at the beginning. I'm unsure if I want to do business with you or not but this lite version is a step in the right direction and I may reconsider.
Though we never intended to upset anyone, I do apologize for not communicating our initial intentions better.

Can the users change the colors and layout of their pages themselves?
Yep! We make it very easy with a realtime profile editor, drag and drop, and more. Or, if you prefer not to allow them to, you can disable profile editing.

stonner
12-07-2006, 07:58 PM
hi,

thanks first! great job!

installed zoints and it's working fine so far, but it doesn't show the profile picture.

how can I fix this?

see: http://www.schuelerforum.net/forum/z/index.php?z-profile=stonner

the folder /user/1/ is empty.

thank you!

Zoints
12-08-2006, 12:22 AM
Hi Stonner,

Are you running in safemode or using any other security hardening on your server?

caliman
12-08-2006, 05:08 AM
Just installed. Pretty exciting.

However, I am surprised to not see a buddylist block. Where is the buddylist?

EDIT - there should be an option to add forum buddylist to groups.

highlan-cruise
12-08-2006, 02:42 PM
installed it last night, struggled a bit but seems to work well

altho i cant get some of the features working right just yet.

is there a guide somewhere on how to use/configure it correctly

MagikMuzik
12-08-2006, 06:42 PM
edit: nevermind, found the answer :)

Think I will give it a whirl :D

caliman
12-08-2006, 08:04 PM
Anyone know how to change the rewrite to remove the z folder from the url path? Or change it to be profilename.domain.com like zoints?

Zoints
12-08-2006, 11:10 PM
Just installed. Pretty exciting.

However, I am surprised to not see a buddylist block. Where is the buddylist?

EDIT - there should be an option to add forum buddylist to groups.

We're looking to automatically add buddylists in a future release.

Zoints
12-08-2006, 11:14 PM
Anyone know how to change the rewrite to remove the z folder from the url path? Or change it to be profilename.domain.com like zoints?

That can't be done with the free version of Zoints Local, sorry. You'll see why soon enough (a great way to market your forum for free is coming) :)

bo0oost
12-09-2006, 12:22 AM
Trying to install zoints local right now.

Got to the point of it saying I was not an administrator, so I assumed it didn't have my cookie info. I logged in as Admin, and in the same browser, reopened the installer. Worked now.

Then it asked me for the directory of my forum. So I typed that in.

It founded all the info, and I hit ok.

It next asked me to clear the database. Since I didn't have zoints local installed before, no need, so I just clicked next.

Then... blank screen. I can't re-run the installer cuz it just takes me back to the database question, and if I hit ok, it takes me back to the blank screen.

I read it might be cuz I was trying to do:

mysite.com/z/install/index.php

and my forum is actually at:

mysite/forums/

So i tried to re-install the installer at:

mysite.com/forums/z/install/index.php

And that took me right back to the clear database question.

Any ideas? Windows and PHP 4.4.4 and vBulletin Version 3.6.1

And I am using the latest versions of zoints

buileminh
12-09-2006, 03:07 AM
I have enabled the system: http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/533/z1no7.jpg
but i still get the error: This installation of Zoints has been turned off. (View here (http://forum.vdpg.net/me/))
Who can help me! Thanks first!
P/S: Yesterday, the system was so fine!

Zoints
12-09-2006, 03:14 AM
I have enabled the system: http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/533/z1no7.jpg
but i still get the error: This installation of Zoints has been turned off. (View here (http://forum.vdpg.net/me/))
Who can help me! Thanks first!

Go to yourdomain.com/z/zadmin.php -- turning on the system is the first option there.

bo0oost
12-09-2006, 04:28 AM
For my question above, my server is also isapi.

Thanks

buileminh
12-09-2006, 06:00 AM
Go to yourdomain.com/z/zadmin.php -- turning on the system is the first option there.
I went there but i could see only the message. Nothing happened! :(

Capper5016
12-09-2006, 06:06 AM
Am trying to uninstall this app, but cant seem to delete the "z" folder, or the "user" sub-folder....any ideas?

buileminh
12-09-2006, 07:03 AM
Go to yourdomain.com/z/zadmin.php -- turning on the system is the first option there.
I tried to re-install or restore my old DB but I could not make it work :(

ABeautifulBrown
12-09-2006, 12:22 PM
This is at the top when I go to edit the privacy settings...

Warning: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in /z/privacy.php on line 36

bo0oost
12-10-2006, 05:38 AM
Trying to install zoints local right now.

Got to the point of it saying I was not an administrator, so I assumed it didn't have my cookie info. I logged in as Admin, and in the same browser, reopened the installer. Worked now.

Then it asked me for the directory of my forum. So I typed that in.

It founded all the info, and I hit ok.

It next asked me to clear the database. Since I didn't have zoints local installed before, no need, so I just clicked next.

Then... blank screen. I can't re-run the installer cuz it just takes me back to the database question, and if I hit ok, it takes me back to the blank screen.

I read it might be cuz I was trying to do:

mysite.com/z/install/index.php

and my forum is actually at:

mysite/forums/

So i tried to re-install the installer at:

mysite.com/forums/z/install/index.php

And that took me right back to the clear database question.

Any ideas? Windows and PHP 4.4.4 and vBulletin Version 3.6.1

And I am using the latest versions of zoints

Over on the Zoints forum, I was told this is not working because I am using ISAPI, and not FastCGI.

What difference does this make, if any? Why would I need to switch to FastCGI to make this work... anyone else have this problem?

caliman
12-10-2006, 05:48 PM
I reverted my memberinfo template prior to installing. Was that necessary?

In other words, could I reinstall some hacks I had in memberinfo?

angeldevil
12-10-2006, 10:29 PM
Yes i want to know i can not upload my photo to my photo album page ? It s only show
Photo Album
Please enter the URL of your Photo Album here:

Pls let me know how to active photo album , thanks so much Zoint

angeldevil
12-10-2006, 11:56 PM
Anh Pls let me know how to remove the communities button on the bar ?
Thank so much see attachment pls

caliman
12-11-2006, 01:32 AM
Yes i want to know i can not upload my photo to my photo album page ? It s only show
Photo Album
Please enter the URL of your Photo Album here:


Pls let me know how to active photo album , thanks so much Zoint


I was confused by this too. THis only happens if you are looking at your own profile. if you look at someone else's or log out and look at yours it works fine.

heyitsjeremy
12-11-2006, 01:44 AM
Anh Pls let me know how to remove the communities button on the bar ?
Thank so much see attachment pls
you're gonna need to pay for the autonomy version to do that

Zoints
12-11-2006, 07:10 PM
I reverted my memberinfo template prior to installing. Was that necessary?

In other words, could I reinstall some hacks I had in memberinfo?

I wouldn't see why it would be necessary. Try adding them back one by one and seeing if it causes any problems.

Zoints
12-11-2006, 07:12 PM
Over on the Zoints forum, I was told this is not working because I am using ISAPI, and not FastCGI.

What difference does this make, if any? Why would I need to switch to FastCGI to make this work... anyone else have this problem?

We've had a few reports of issues with ISAPI. At present, we're moving it to an unsupported platform. Sorry for the trouble, but we don't have an IIS server to test things on right now to figure out where the issue is arising. As soon as we do figure out a resolution, we'll let you know.

SkyCatcher
12-11-2006, 09:10 PM
Love it, but what happened to the german language supposed to be in 1.01?

Zoints
12-12-2006, 12:13 AM
Love it, but what happened to the german language supposed to be in 1.01?
Language support will be in 1.1.0 :)

SkyCatcher
12-12-2006, 05:31 AM
Language support will be in 1.1.0 :)

Thanks for keeping up the hard work. I personally love it but my users are screaming bloody murder... "We don't need that!" etc etc. I think I'm going to hit them in their eye... one at a time.

Rahzel_hx
12-12-2006, 05:44 AM
I have a question under the profile for links drop down menu none of my links work they take me to the home page of the fourm any thoughts?

Zoints
12-12-2006, 07:29 AM
I have a question under the profile for links drop down menu none of my links work they take me to the home page of the fourm any thoughts?
Doing the following will usually fix that:

1. Go to vbulletin admincp > Zoints Profile options

2. In Zoints Local URL enter the path to the /z/ directory such as http://www.yourdomain.com/z/ or yourdomain.com/forums/z/

Most people don't need to do this, but every now and then what you're experiencing crops up.

Rahzel_hx
12-12-2006, 06:50 PM
Doing the following will usually fix that:

1. Go to vbulletin admincp > Zoints Profile options

2. In Zoints Local URL enter the path to the /z/ directory such as http://www.yourdomain.com/z/ or yourdomain.com/forums/z/

Most people don't need to do this, but every now and then what you're experiencing crops up.

actully it was my fault i think now that i added zointsprofile_popup_navbar to the cmps it works 0.o another question off subject when i use a mydomain.com/fourm/admincp/ i can login to my admincp but when i use fourm.mydomian i can't login >_< it just takes me back into the admin login ***FIXED*** also when i login through fourm.mydomain when i goto my zoints profile says i don't have permissions to view this page i know this is alot of questions but i also don't have Go to vbulletin admincp > Zoints Profile options... wow i feel new to this all over again***FIXED*** i found it....

Bruwat
12-13-2006, 05:41 PM
Just a quicky-if I install it can it be made so that it doesn't link to the whole zoints network across at other forums? So it is purely based, and remains only in/with no external link to anywhere else on my own forums?

wjkids
12-13-2006, 06:42 PM
Just a quicky-if I install it can it be made so that it doesn't link to the whole zoints network across at other forums? So it is purely based, and remains only in/with no external link to anywhere else on my own forums?

You can do that but there is a one time charge I beleive.

DannyITR
12-13-2006, 09:20 PM
Hi Danny,


Though we never intended to upset anyone, I do apologize for not communicating our initial intentions better.



Thanks for the reply. I've been reading this thread for a while and I notice that consistently, users are asking for a way to make it so this hack does not communicate with zoints in any way. I share that concern and this should be a hint that perhaps forum owners don't want to have anything to do with a larger network and you would probably get more business if you offered a standalone version that could be bought.

I noticed you cannot remove or change the zoint navbar. That needs to be changed. I find it unhelpful that zoints seems to think they know whats best for other people's forums. The decision to even have that navbar should be up to the forum owner. Your interstate and roadsign analagy makes sense yes but ignores the fact that poeple might not want to have that interstate rolling through their community out of their control. I see alot of improvement from the original zoints central and I just may give it a try but I still dont get a warm feeling that gives me confidence in zoints' full intentions.

Some Questions:

Can my user's profile pages be username.domain.com like when you sign up at zoints.com? I find that /z/ utterly ridiculous to have in the address.

Is the default search option still to search all communities?

When will we see VB header and footer integration like Photopost and VBA?

When will we see Photopost block integration?

When will there be different language support? (I need french).

Can a user delete their zoints profile?

Thanks

nanaimobar
12-13-2006, 11:28 PM
How do I restrict access to the profile link in navbar to registered members only?

I looked in this forum and Zoints forums but must have missed the solution.

Update. Found out it's not possible at this time without some coding.

Invalid ID
12-14-2006, 01:00 AM
During the installing, I got the "page not found" error on http://www.apni-mehfil.com/forum/z/Admin/

Zoints
12-14-2006, 01:54 AM
This is at the top when I go to edit the privacy settings...

Warning: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in /z/privacy.php on line 36

Hi there, here is the fix (which will also be in Zoints Local 1.0.2)

Edit file: /z/privacy.php

Find:

foreach ($this->tabs as $tabid => $tab)
{
foreach ($tab['disallowed'] as $gid)
{
$this->_template->checked($tabid, $gid, true);
}
}


Replace with:

foreach ($this->tabs as $tabid => $tab)
{
if (is_array($tab['disallowed']))
{
foreach ($tab['disallowed'] as $gid)
{
$this->_template->checked($tabid, $gid, true);
}
}
}

vprp
12-14-2006, 02:10 AM
Thanks for the reply. I've been reading this thread for a while and I notice that consistently, users are asking for a way to make it so this hack does not communicate with zoints in any way. I share that concern and this should be a hint that perhaps forum owners don't want to have anything to do with a larger network and you would probably get more business if you offered a standalone version that could be bought.

I noticed you cannot remove or change the zoint navbar. That needs to be changed. I find it unhelpful that zoints seems to think they know whats best for other people's forums. The decision to even have that navbar should be up to the forum owner. Your interstate and roadsign analagy makes sense yes but ignores the fact that poeple might not want to have that interstate rolling through their community out of their control. I see alot of improvement from the original zoints central and I just may give it a try but I still dont get a warm feeling that gives me confidence in zoints' full intentions.

Totally agree. At least Zoints is making progress moving from the centralized version to offering a local version and then an autonomous version. I also feel like I know what is best for my forum and I know many other admins, especially those with larger boards, feel the same way.

Zoints
12-14-2006, 02:21 AM
Thanks for the reply. I've been reading this thread for a while and I notice that consistently, users are asking for a way to make it so this hack does not communicate with zoints in any way. I share that concern and this should be a hint that perhaps forum owners don't want to have anything to do with a larger network and you would probably get more business if you offered a standalone version that could be bought.

We're finding that about 85% like or don't mind the interconnecting and about 15% prefer autonomy. We do sell an autonomous license that does everything you want for $120.00

Some Questions:

When will we see VB header and footer integration like Photopost and VBA?
The newest versions of Zoints Local all automatically pull the entire header and footer.

When will we see Photopost block integration?
http://dev.zoints.com/showthread.php?t=26

If anyone has a photopost license one of our developers could play with, we'd be happy to make it happen. We've requested a developers license but nothing ever materialized. There's already a photoplog block and many other blocks that have been made.

When will there be different language support? (I need french).
1.1.0

Can a user delete their zoints profile?
No, but you can close it for them. Or they can just turn it off to all usergroups.

Zoints
12-14-2006, 02:23 AM
Clicking the links "My Blog" and "Profiles" in the Navbar gives "Page not found error"
What url does it take you to? Do your profiles work when manually typed in? If so, what url are those at?

Zoints
12-14-2006, 02:32 AM
Totally agree. At least Zoints is making progress moving from the centralized version to offering a local version and then an autonomous version. I also feel like I know what is best for my forum and I know many other admins, especially those with larger boards, feel the same way.
I concur you know what is best for your forum too. This modification is setting the foundation for interconnecting forums. Anyone can create a decent profile system. If that's what we were trying to do, we would have integrated with vBulletin 100%. Our vision is to allow people to hop from community to community to community like driving along a virtual freeway. Is it what everyone wants? No, and we respect that. But I prefer to innovate. And any time you innovate, you're going to polarize groups of people. It's not that we have done anything WRONG (though we obviously have many areas to improve) it's that we've done things different. Different doesn't mean bad :)

In the end, together we are strong. And the self-marketing campaign that will be included in Zoints Local 1.0.2 is going to prove that. A single forum marketing themselves will have a hard time being noticed. But hundreds of forums all utilizing the same means of marketing gets people to take notice.

Stay tuned...

uptil7000
12-14-2006, 05:22 AM
I am looking to see if Zoints could do most of the listed stuff i.e. perhaps a moderator controlled 'list of communities' which would be equivalent to 'guilds' and/or 'games'. So people could sign up for each community (guild or games). Then I could appoint leaders of sort who could create a specific page for the community (guild) posting relevant info such as their own home page etc.

Is this requirement too far removed from Zoints? What I am trying to do is build a community by exposing folks to more than just their own little community but perhaps they may wish to take part in more than one community i.e. multiple games.

I am trying to understand it at the conceptual level. I will give it a test drive this weekend.

Thank you.


What if you created a user for each guild? Maybe the Guild Master could control that user. Then your other users could add the guild to their network.

cfspinner
12-14-2006, 11:15 AM
I installed zoints, but can't seem to find how to get to it, and now, when i click on my name to get to my profile, i get file not found!

HELP!

pokerie
12-14-2006, 12:48 PM
DChapman, I think we all respect what you are doing with Zoints:) I do anyway:) But when you compare it to the likes of a Virtual Highway with interconnecting routes, everyone knows that the towns people like to see business coming into their community, but not going out of it. For you, the government (lol) you want to give your people the freedom and become economically sound, but as with real life, the oul corner shop just wont be able to compete with the big Supermarket that has just opened 500 metres down the road.

The customers start to go to the bigger shops where they can get everything that was in the smaller, specialist shops but it's more convenient because it's all under the same roof.

This relates to traffic being taken away from the smaller sites with zoints and probably ending up at a bigger site with a broader range of forums where people can get responses to their questions quicker and everything else that a bigger site has over the smaller guys, by just using the one account to log in to.

We're not putting the time, effort and money into our sites just to end up sending everyone off to the big sites, even though it could benefit the internet population as a whole, even still, there's just no point in it for us.

If you want to look at it in extremities, Zoints could also one day be void because it's job has been done, it's brought everyone together, all the smaller sites are no more and the bigger sites can now advertise and there will be no need for Zoints or for smaller, specialist sites. This is of course an extreme but could eventually happen if things went absolutely to plan.

So I don't think this would be good for any of us.



Just one thing, when you told DannyITR that Zoints Autonomous provides everything he asked for, does this include getting rid of /z/ that he mentioned too? I thought this wasn't possible?