Angry .Orgers

[Boofo]

Originally Posted by Paul M

Oh, okay. I just saw a link to the site, looked at showgroups and it seems to be the same 'staff' as here (minus a few). I guess I'll work out what it's all for when I have time to read some more posts.

Don't worry Paul, you won't find me there, not even on visiting days.

[Paul M]

Originally Posted by jmw

Free hacks are low quality. Free hacks are for phpbb and other low quality forums

On your bike you muppet.

[Lycan]

Originally Posted by Boofo

@ jmw - If you don't like free hacks, don't use them, but please don't try to belittle the authors that do them. A hack doesn't have to be paid or big to be good if it does what you want, free or not.

And let's not forget something, some, of those "free hacks" were made by the same people who are now talking about going commercial

somehow i doubt he thought about it enough to realize that by dissing all free hacks hes also dissing the people he's been so....enthusiasticly.....encouraging and supporting

<moseys through the thread and takes all of the "2 cents" to go to buy a burger>

[Lottis]

One question. Is this based on jmw comments, that you guyes get so exited?
Ore is this confirmed that there are so many who have the opertunity to bye hacks?
Im so happy that there are so many good free hackers here. Who provide exelent stuff that me myself cant do.
More power to yaah.


"Originally Posted by jmw
Free hacks are low quality. Free hacks are for phpbb and other low quality forums"

This is a really stupid ignorens thing to say.

[Lea Verou]

Originally Posted by jmw

I apologize. I meant "some of the geeks". I hope something good comes out of this thread.

Vbulletin should get rid of all this FREE hack non-sense which doesn't benefit the majority of vbulletin customers and frustrates them. WE NEED PAID HACKS! Free hacks are low quality. Free hacks are for phpbb and other low quality forums, not for gorgeous and powerful vb.

I bet if somebody opens a vbulletin paid hack site, this forum would die.

If you don't like free hacks then DON'T USE THEM!!!!
Oh and by the way thanks for insulting ALL the coders here, including those that have gone commercial.
We release stuff here that we could have kept private (and some do) to have something unique in our forums - but no, we like to share, and this is the "thanks" we get. oook...
I could say a lot more but I don't want to be considered "flaming". :devious:

[Lottis]

Originally Posted by Brad

Lots of replies to this one over night, havn't had time to catch up on them all yet but I have skimmed over them.

The staff here is currently having a discussion about the issue, just wanted to let it be known so you guys know you're not begin ignored.

I think there is a big problem. The staff, ore most of them seem to already made up there mind.

[ludachris]

As a website owner/developer who depends on vB and the hacks written for it, I can see the value in allowing commercial hacks to be displayed on this site. However, I also see the danger in allowing commercial hacks to wipe out the free ones. It's already pretty difficult to get a hack written for free around here since the "payed request" section opened. Things have already changed around here. There's no denying it. Commercial hacks are here to stay, and coders will begin devoting more time to it and less time to the free stuff.

A solution that makes everyone happy? Allow commercial hacks to be promoted here, but ONLY if there is a dumbed-down free version of the same hack available from the coder (released at the same time). This way, they are still offering a service to the users here AND are able to promote their commercial version for a chance to be payed for their time. This should ensure that the coders continue to spend time producing free hacks while they devote time to the commercial hacks too. This should at least keep them from completely dropping all work on free hacks if they want to be able to promote their commercial hacks here.

Thoughts?

[The Geek]

Though I see what you are saying its like making a requirement for the users of free hacks to buy every third one.

Some work can not be made LITE and supporting and maintaining LITE and PRO versions can drive you salivatingly mad. People should not be forced to give up their time for nothing. If they can, then we should support them, if not we should support them. Either way we should support those that offer us tools we feel make vBulletin better.

Thanks

[noppid]

It's kinda hard to dumb down a hack.

Plus ca change
Plus c'est la meme chose

[eXtremeTim]

I have a few hacks in the works some which can have lite versions and some that cant.

Running two version of the same hack can be crazy mad at times lol.