Scammers break vB coders reputation...

Hum, Danny, could you contact Kier so he can be informed of this thread and give his own comment?!... that maybe be the best solution now...

.. as he gave his comment when vB.ORG was created and supported by Jelsoft... because this site started somewhere you know, and it was not directly from vb.com ...

I'm not sure what Kier has to do with this?

Marco is the vBulletin.org coordinator. He is the liaison between our community and Jelsoft, and I already speak to him daily in IRC and usually over morning coffee.

Nexialys, if you have suggestions that go beyond vBulletin.org, that is fine but it doesn't belong here nor is it going to get the answers you are looking for. You can contact either Marco or Ashley privately too communicate any of your ideas.

I'm interested how we can improve this community. You gave insight that dropping the request forum will help this community. This is a fine suggestion as it directly involves this community.

yes i think that the only situation possible regarding the paid service would be to drop the actual system/forum because there is more harm than goods... and with the references i received lately (the last 8 to 10 months), i can tell you that most of the people that came to my business now refuse to go to vb.org for their paid requests...

and the reason why i suggest that Kier would be informed is this forum:

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=47

... make some searches in that forum, and you will see that 99% of the questions about modifications are answered by suggesting to post in vb.org for support on modifications... that means that a certain % of these requests will fall under the Paid Services...

even on vb.com, some guys i answered commercially by giving them support on hacks or installs are telling me that they will never post here because they know someone who got scammed, or they read the Paid Services and see that they are not answered...

the structure never changed, the situation never changed... and you loose your time explaining the rules, you always have some complaints to follow, etc... does that make sense?!

[Jase2]

I do agree with Danny on this one -- I think we should be emailing Ashley and see what he has to say. Kier is product manager, I don't think he'd have the final decision.

Regards Jason

Kier, Ashley, Marco, whoever can have a commercial point of view is important for me...

Marco is my best, he knows about this thread, keep his comment for the best moment so he will be able to knock me off for good.. lol

[Jase2]

Yes, it would be nice. nexialys, why don't you drop Ashley an email -- you never know he may like the idea!

Regards Jason

[Lizard King]

Originally Posted by Danny.VBT

I'm not saying we shall leave Jelsoft out of this. If people are interested in starting their own venture and proposing it to Jelsoft...well, that doesn't belong here.

If you are going to leave your feedback here then it should be for this site, no?

The staff is interested in your feedback on how we can improve this community - if anyone feels like creating a new community, I can't stop them but it has no business here.

Don't get me wrong Danny. I am not planning a venture like that. As i think the current system needs to be improved , I am just sharing my opinion about what can be the best solution for the situation.

[Jase2]

What about a feedback system, something similar to the Itrader mod?

Regards Jason

was suggested long time ago...

about all the possible solutions were suggested over the years... the situation is just waving... sometimes it is ok for all, something we have a rage of scammers, and that is going up and down...

the main point here is that this site is based on coders work... and the more we see, the more our reputation is broken... there was also some discussions about the quality of the work released here lately... that is a direct effect of the scammers and the paid services... we see more paid requests because nobody answer free requests... we would have a better answer of the free requests if the paid service forum is closed... and we would have more releases in the hacks also...

[Lynne]

Originally Posted by Jase2

What about a feedback system, something similar to the Itrader mod?

Regards Jason

I do think some sort of feedback system would help out here. That way, when someone gets contacted about doing the job, they can look and see what sort of feedback that coder has gotten. But, the feedback should be limited to the clients that posted about doing the job here, otherwise anyone could give feedback.