vB Enterprise Translator

[Trana]

It is already implemented in 3.0 - you can find it here:
[url]

In example it is set to right and for 4 columns :)

Looks great! When will you be releasing it? Is this mod now working with VB in /forum as well as vbSEO?

[KrisP]

I too have problems with meta description and keywords.

Characters like "pà ¥" seems to be poping up all the time.

I have blocked out the meta keywords and description + blocked out title in first post. I am hoping then Google will place the title as title link in Google search results and go down and take first lines in post as desription in google search results. (Have seen many Google searchresults from vbulletin forums where title is repeated in description under search results).

[dai-kun]

Looks great! When will you be releasing it? Is this mod now working with VB in /forum as well as vbSEO?

It's been working for awhile now. You just have to follow instructions carefully.

[imported_silkroad]

It is already implemented in 3.0 - you can find it here:
http://www.vbenterprisetranslator.com/forum/

Also as you see it not related to the flags, so anybody can choose which one to use, or even use booth. It is also configurable:
- position (disable, left or right side of navbar)
- columns (in how many column your results should be shown)

In example it is set to right and for 4 columns :)

Great! Excellent! Looks perfect!

It's been working for awhile now. You just have to follow instructions carefully.

The question posted by Trana was about the release of upcoming version 3.0, not about the current release.

[mojolive]

Thank you . if is awesome and words directly . wonderful work.. I will donate.. forsure..

thanks again

[dai-kun]

The question posted by Trana was about the release of upcoming version 3.0, not about the current release.

Either way it's working.

She asked about it (current version) before the fix was made a few pages back.

[NLP-er]

Looks great! When will you be releasing it? Is this mod now working with VB in /forum as well as vbSEO?

Just look at live demo (http://www.vbenterprisetranslator.com/forum/) it is in subdirectory and it is using vbSEO :p Also it will work without vbSEO having full functionality (except translating URLs - but maybe in the future...) :)

[NLP-er]

I too have problems with meta description and keywords.

Characters like "p? ?" seems to be poping up all the time.

I have blocked out the meta keywords and description + blocked out title in first post. I am hoping then Google will place the title as title link in Google search results and go down and take first lines in post as desription in google search results. (Have seen many Google searchresults from vbulletin forums where title is repeated in description under search results).

Hello - I will need access to our forum or test forum where it happens (I cannot reproduce it). DamasGate gave me access to his test forum, but shut it down before I found time to check it (3.0 has priority right now, but 2.x is still supported).

[NLP-er]

Hi all :)

I want to announce that vBET 3.0.0 is almost done :) Of course I still have whole TODO list but it is for 3.1 and I even have plans for 4.0. I already see this mod future :) And it is future of forums! :D

Almost done it means that I steel need to set some infrastructure for vBET. Mod itself has full functionality planned for 3.0.0 You can find it, play with it, and maybe even find some issues here:
http://www.vbenterprisetranslator.com/forum/

Going there, making account, writing messages in your native language will help me a lot to find out does it is really so good tested as I think :)

3.0.0 is tested with vB 3.8 and before first production I will be not able to test it with vB4.0 I guarantee that vBET will be compatible with vB4.0 as fast as it will be possible after first production.

[Cybershaolin]

Can't wait to download 3.0. I want it, I want it! lol Thanks for your great work my friend. :)

[NLP-er]

2.3.3 RELEASED

Important bug fixed! And also some other bugs fixed ;)

- Fixed bug with shifted results caching
- Fixed bug for URLs to javascript functions
- Fixed bug for not translating usernames in postbit
- Little cosmetic changes

There was important bug in caching results. It occurs that sometimes Google returns wrong amount of results. It is rare, but in such case you will see that data are shifted (i.e. title in column for number of results). The issue was that previous version not only show such results but also cached it - in result page was broken for weeks (till cache flush). Right now for algorithm performance reason such broken result will be displayed, but NOT cached. So after page reload it will be displayed appropriately and then cached :)
I had complains about this bug in PM, so there is solution :D Please Note that if you already have cached such broken pages you have to wait till cache will be flushed to have it repaired (can also delete data from cache by SQL), but such thing will never happen again :):up:

Enjoy!

PS.
I still have 2 little bugs in TODO (one for Avant Explorer and one for somesthing with default language changes https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showpost.php?p=1895125&postcount=710) - I will handle this after 3.0.0 :)

[Cybershaolin]

Oh, I was expecting 3.0 but is this for next time? Thanks for the actual update though.

[NLP-er]

Oh, I was expecting 3.0 but is this for next time? Thanks for the actual update though.

As I already wrote 2.x and 3.x will come in separate lines. Please read this:
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showpost.php?p=1896325&postcount=720

[Cybershaolin]

Sorry, I missed that post or did not read enough. You've got a PM for donation. This deserves to be supported, I can tell you, and I've got no problem at all doing so. :)

[xony]

Hello, my mod now works properly, thanks for your work.

My only problem now is that when I create the sitemap, this addition to the Sitemaps always, I create one with over a million of url's and of course on google fails, this sitemap why not cut into pieces like the others? I have it set to 20,000 Url's in sitemap file.

I have vbseo, all is well unless the sitemap.

Thanks for your time and hope to acquire the new version.:D

[iGuides.ru]

Amm.....Thanks for mod.
Just one question: How integrate it to vBAdvanced ?

I'm from Russia, thanks!

[team76]

merci ,vraiment un super mods ;)

[NLP-er]

merci ,vraiment un super mods ;)

Write it in this language here (http://www.vbenterprisetranslator.com/forum/vbet-testing-messages/) and see what will happen :D:D:D (configure your default language during registration)

[NLP-er]

Amm.....Thanks for mod.
Just one question: How integrate it to vBAdvanced ?

I'm from Russia, thanks!

I made one extension to integrate with vB Advanced Dynamics, but it was paid task and at this moment it is not in general usage - will be in the future. Now I have 3.0.0 as priority :)

[NLP-er]

Hello, my mod now works properly, thanks for your work.

My only problem now is that when I create the sitemap, this addition to the Sitemaps always, I create one with over a million of url's and of course on google fails, this sitemap why not cut into pieces like the others? I have it set to 20,000 Url's in sitemap file.

I have vbseo, all is well unless the sitemap.

Thanks for your time and hope to acquire the new version.:D

See response here (http://www.vbenterprisetranslator.com/forum/vbet-testing-messages/29-message-written-spanish-castilian.html) cause you write about it in 2 places and I already answered there.

[chick]

Estimated time for 3.0??? I'm excited.

[Blacura]

Please fallow installation procedure and read all configuration parameters. You skipped configuration of forum directory.

I don't see where you have forum configuration showing?????

[imported_silkroad]

I don't see where you have forum configuration showing?????

It is in the admincp. Look carefully and you will find it.

[Blacura]

It is in the admincp. Look carefully and you will find it.

No i see that section but i dont know how to configure it. there should be some instructions on how to do it

[Trana]

When can we expect 3.0?

[imported_silkroad]

When can we expect 3.0?

When in the restaurant of a great chief waiting for his delicious dishes, it would not be considered in good taste to ask "when can we expect the food?"

It will be ready when it will be ready !

Be patient!

[MarsNIIT]

Please help me, Error and can't translate:

Database error in vBulletin 3.8.3:

Invalid SQL:
SELECT cache.originaltext as originaltext, cache.translated as translated FROM sgmobile_vbenterprisetranslator_cache_short help, sgmobile_vbenterprisetranslator_cache_short cache WHERE help.originaltext='This+is+a+discussion+forum+powe red+by+Saigonmobile' AND help.tl='tr' AND cache.serie=help.serie;

MySQL Error : MySQL server has gone away
Error Number : 2006
Request Date : Monday, October 19th 2009 @ 11:12:22 PM
Error Date : Monday, October 19th 2009 @ 11:12:54 PM
Script : http://saigonmobile.vn/forum/?language=tr
Referrer : http://saigonmobile.vn/forum/?language=tl
IP Address : 222.254.177.135
Username : <!--START vBET NOT TRANSLATED AREA-->MarsNIIT<!--END vBET NOT TRANSLATED AREA-->
Classname : vB_Database_MySQLi
MySQL Version :

[ricardoNJ]

I tried but I have a custom style and this Mod don't work as well:
Uninstall :(

[NLP-er]

Estimated time for 3.0??? I'm excited.

It would be already, but I have busy time for 2 weeks. So for people from the list it will be available in 2 weeks. For sale - 1 month (when appears that all eventual issues for other forums configurations are resolved and clients will get really great product :))

[NLP-er]

I don't see where you have forum configuration showing?????

In mod options available from Admin CP :)
I realize that in 2.0 it can be confusing when you see so big set of configuration options, but in vBET 3.0 it will be much easier, cause options are separated for necessary to set and others.

[NLP-er]

No i see that section but i dont know how to configure it. there should be some instructions on how to do it

Just read parameter description - you even have an example there :)

[NLP-er]

When in the restaurant of a great chief waiting for his delicious dishes, it would not be considered in good taste to ask "when can we expect the food?"

It will be ready when it will be ready !

Be patient!

It will be ready when it will be ready...

Be very inpatient! :D

[NLP-er]

I tried but I have a custom style and this Mod don't work as well:
Uninstall :(

Many forums use it on custom style. PM and we will solve the issue :)

[NLP-er]

Please help me, Error and can't translate:

Please be calm - this error report is harmless. It says that DB server was already go away (probably waiting too long) when asked for data. It is harmless cause in such case translation will just be taken form Google instead from cache.

Also it shouldn't really happen or at least it should be very rare, so please PM me more details about how often it appears on your forum.

[Medtech]

Great Mod,

do you have anything for using this with clogic SEO 1.0.3?

[jaderollie]

how i donate to this mod, as its worth a bung ;0

[KrisP]

Just did a fresh install. My problem is:

Any variable containing text such as $threadinfo[title] or $threadinfo[preview]

- that is placed in the content quotes, in the meta description like this fx: <meta name="description" content="$threadinfo[title]" />

- gets the strange caracters. Note that if $threadinfo[title] or $threadinfo[preview] are placed right outside the metatag they are translated just fine and all caracters are good.

So what goes wrong inside content=" ... " ?

EDIT: If I edit vbenterprisetranslator_functions.php

from

function vbet_getReEncoded(&$text) {
global $stylevar;
return ($stylevar['charset'] != 'utf-8') ? iconv($stylevar['charset'], 'utf-8', $text) : $text;
}

to
function vbet_getReEncoded(&$text) {
global $stylevar;
return ($stylevar['charset'] != 'utf-8') ? iconv($stylevar['charset'], 'iso-8859-1', $text) : $text;
}

then everything inside meta name descrition is suddenly ok, but hen post text is translated as if ??? never was in the source... (posts are encfoded in iso-8859-1)

[NLP-er]

Great Mod,

do you have anything for using this with clogic SEO 1.0.3?

Not yet - possible in the future :) Also you can always ask the author of clogic SEO 1.0.3 to make his mod compatible with my :)

[NLP-er]

how i donate to this mod, as its worth a bung ;0

Great to hear you appreciate my work and the mod :) You can donate on my paypal account: michal.podbielski@wp.pl

[NLP-er]

Just did a fresh install. My problem is:

Any variable containing text such as $threadinfo[title] or $threadinfo[preview]

- that is placed in the content quotes, in the meta description like this fx: <meta name="description" content="$threadinfo[title]" />

- gets the strange caracters. Note that if $threadinfo[title] or $threadinfo[preview] are placed right outside the metatag they are translated just fine and all caracters are good.

So what goes wrong inside content=" ... " ?

EDIT: If I edit vbenterprisetranslator_functions.php

from


to


then everything inside meta name descrition is suddenly ok, but hen post text is translated as if ??? never was in the source... (posts are encfoded in iso-8859-1)

Need to look on your forum. Please PM me all the details :)

[NLP-er]

To ghisirds - I cannot contact you by PM. Please contact me - it is about vBET 3.0.0 license for you :)

[jaderollie]

just sent you a pm, so we can chat about you doing my site

[yesfans]

How do I UNINSTALL this from my site? I have went in and uninstalled through the MANAGE PRODUCTS, removed all the stuff I uploaded to server but the option to chose a LANG is in the USERS EDIT OPTION area.

[NLP-er]

How do I UNINSTALL this from my site? I have went in and uninstalled through the MANAGE PRODUCTS, removed all the stuff I uploaded to server but the option to chose a LANG is in the USERS EDIT OPTION area.

If you are using some caching plugin - flush the cache. Mod does nothing after uninstall.

[tlwwolfseye]

This Mod only works with vBSEO ? Or even with standard vB 3.8.4 ?

[NLP-er]

This Mod only works with vBSEO ? Or even with standard vB 3.8.4 ?

It is working without vBSEO :)

[Lee G]

A strange error.

I have just updated from version 202 to 233

When I have
Link Type REQUEST_URI I get pages show, but no translation, url changes OK
But with the VBSEO_URI in place, I get blank pages show

I seem to remember with the early version there had to be a change made to vbseo.php and I have put the original file back in place

Altered the htaccess file to the new rules

Any other ideas what could be at fault

Thanks for any help

I have just found its when the tick box for Create URL's according to SEO link consensus (i.e. '/en/address'), is causing the problem.

[NLP-er]

A strange error.

I have just updated from version 202 to 233

When I have
Link Type REQUEST_URI I get pages show, but no translation, url changes OK
But with the VBSEO_URI in place, I get blank pages show

I seem to remember with the early version there had to be a change made to vbseo.php and I have put the original file back in place

Altered the htaccess file to the new rules

Any other ideas what could be at fault


Thanks for any help

I have just found its when the tick box for Create URL's according to SEO link consensus (i.e. '/en/address'), is causing the problem.

Actual version don't need any changes in original vBSEO files. If you have such - undo it. Also please take attention to installation instruction - especially if your forum is in subdirectory in URL.

[TheWhite]

If google doesn't want it's services to be used in this way, then what?

[imported_silkroad]

If google doesn't want it's services to be used in this way, then what?

If the sky turns pink with red stripes, then what?

In other words, why ask such a silly question?

[TheWhite]

It's a legit question, if google don't want its services to be used in this way and requests a stop then what?

anyway how much is the minimal donation to have the copyright removed?

[imported_silkroad]

It's a legit question, if google don't want its services to be used in this way and requests a stop then what?

No, it is not a legitimate question. It is a hypothetical question without any basis.

If you have any fact, proof, etc. based on Google's terms-of-service (TOS) then that might be "legit", but you are just asking a question without any basis.

Your question is little different than,

"What if men on the moon don't like our cookies?"..... you are asking a hypothetical question without any basis for fact that leads to a pointless discussion.

You cannot remove the "Powered by Google" phrase, it is strictly against Google's TOS. Go read it.... ;)

[TheWhite]

imported_silkroad ,

I have donated and want to remove the authors credits/copyright and not googles so wheres the coder?

PS. Please identify yourself as a team member of this mod before answering.

Regards

[imported_silkroad]

imported_silkroad ,

I have donated and want to remove the authors credits/copyright and not googles so wheres the coder?

PS. Please identify yourself as a team member of this mod before answering.

Regards

Even a reasonable person cannot understand your ramblings. In one post you are talking about Googles TOS, the next you are talking about author / mod copyright.

I also thought your original post, before you edited it, was very childish.


Here is the message that has just been posted:


1) I'm not talking to you.
2) I have donated and want to remove the authors credits/copyright and not googles ...duh... so wheres the coder?
3) I don't need any advise from you and your tiny little every small board so don't answer.


I will answer any question I please. Especially the vague, uninformed Google TOS babble that distracts NLP-er from his good work :D

If you want to talk to NPL-er directly (and no one else reply), use the PM function. P in PM stands for Private.

This is a public forum.

[TheWhite]

1) I never talked about google tos, I talked about googles translation service and since somewhere on your forum I saw a buy feature I don't think google would be to fond about it, on the other hand a donation for the work done is fine as I'm a proud donor.

2) You should act as a professional since your part of the coders team.

PS. I have sent 2 PMs which stands for Private Messages.

This is a public forum.

Regards

[floggerss]

I need the rewrite rules for lighttpd. PLS

[NLP-er]

If google doesn't want it's services to be used in this way, then what?

Then it would be prohibited in conditions, but it is not :)

[NLP-er]

It's a legit question, if google don't want its services to be used in this way and requests a stop then what?

anyway how much is the minimal donation to have the copyright removed?

Answered in PM :)

[TheWhite]

Thanks alot you've answered all of my questions, keep up the good work. :)

Regards

[Cybershaolin]

Lately, I've got many error databases on my forum. My server runs fine and have no problems at all with it. I did not have those errors before (I mean since the time I used this hack) but it just started recently.

It clearly looks that it's coming from the hack.


Database error in vBulletin 3.8.3:

Invalid SQL:

UPDATE session
SET lastactivity = 1256788168, location = '/forum/archive/index.php/t-1320.html?language=ga', inforum = 50, inthread = 1320, incalendar = 0, badlocation = 0, bypass = 1
WHERE sessionhash = '0ee85582403662c70bcb27c3c602f5fb';

MySQL Error : MySQL server has gone away
Error Number : 2006


Most of them are created from IP's coming from Google.

[imported_silkroad]

I don't think google would be to (sic) fond about it

I am a long time user of forum translation mods and one of the first people to donate to NLP-er. Our site has over 4M PVs each month and our site map of translated pages, concentrating on around 15 languages, is over 8M links.

You (TheWhite) did mention Google's TOS (above and before, albeit indirectly) and you made a general (and wrong) statement that you "think" Google might not appreciate this translation mod (use of their service). You said:

I don't think google would be to (sic) fond about it

Your statement above is a direct, unfounded (and incorrect) opinion about Google's TOS.

The fact of the matter is that Google's TOS is clear about usage and there is nothing in the Google TOS that is negative on using their service for automated machine language translation. Google encourages it. In fact, Google provides a API key for users to use their service and guidelines on giving Google credit "Powered by Google", and also on translation caching.

This mod was designed by NLP-er to be completely compliant with Google's TOS. Therefore, your statement that Google is not fond of this type of mod is completely wrong and unfounded (without any basis of fact).

This is a very professional reply. Spreading unfounded fear, uncertainty and doubt is, in my opinion, unprofessional and hence the reason I replied to your misinformation and FUD. I think users here should have facts and not unfounded "opinions" that create FUD and are not based on any facts or in Google's TOS.

I hope you will cease arguing with me about this issue and will drop your tact of "name calling". In my opinion, your posting of fear, uncertainly and doubt, without any basis of fact, is problematic and hence, as a long time user, I replied to clear the misinformation in your posts.

You have been corrected. Accept it and move on. Thanks.

[floggerss]

I need the rewrite rules for lighttpd. PLS

[NLP-er]

Lately, I've got many error databases on my forum. My server runs fine and have no problems at all with it. I did not have those errors before (I mean since the time I used this hack) but it just started recently.

It clearly looks that it's coming from the hack.


Database error in vBulletin 3.8.3:

Invalid SQL:

UPDATE session
SET lastactivity = 1256788168, location = '/forum/archive/index.php/t-1320.html?language=ga', inforum = 50, inthread = 1320, incalendar = 0, badlocation = 0, bypass = 1
WHERE sessionhash = '0ee85582403662c70bcb27c3c602f5fb';

MySQL Error : MySQL server has gone away
Error Number : 2006


Most of them are created from IP's coming from Google.

This issue is harmless, so you can be calm. Translations and normal pages are working well.

I thought that this issue disappear after few changes, but I see that it will be necessary to investigate it again.

[NLP-er]

I need the rewrite rules for lighttpd. PLS

Can anyone already did it and want to share with floggerss? :)

[NLP-er]

Many of you asked and asked when vBET 3.x will be available to buy, cannot wait to have it on your own forum. So great news is - since today :)

And even better news is that for first month of sale (till end end of November 2009) we have or you great promotion - 50% discount. See here for details: GREAT vBET 3.x PROMOTION! (http://www.vbenterprisetranslator.com/forum/vbet-announcements/69-vbet-3-x-sale-opened-great-promotion.html)

[NLP-er]

2.3.4 Released

Corrected bug for translation of description and title in meta tags.

It was small, but very important bug - description is how Google shows your page in results.

[Cybershaolin]

3.1.0 Bought! Thanks, this is a great day! Was waiting for this to happen since a few weeks! :)

[jaderollie]

3.1.0 Bought! Thanks, this is a great day! Was waiting for this to happen since a few weeks! :)

where can we buy??

[dai-kun]

where can we buy??

http://www.vbenterprisetranslator.com/

[zombietom]

What are the main differences between the paid version and the free version.
thanks -I already use the free version and it is great and has increased my hits a lot.

[NLP-er]

What are the main differences between the paid version and the free version.
thanks -I already use the free version and it is great and has increased my hits a lot.

For main differences see here:
http://www.vbenterprisetranslator.com/forum/vbet-announcements/3-vb-enterprise-translator-3-x.html

For details just look on all green things here :D:
http://www.vbenterprisetranslator.com/forum/vbet-announcements/4-vb-enterprise-translator-features.html

[Kolbi]

Where are advantages between your addon and vB Global Translator (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?p=1910691)?

[cobaku]

I dont understand how people use this addon
it has massive overload to php
it has massive overload to mysql (did not test this one just a guess)
no way it can work for medium to big boards

Not only this but the other translators have same overload problem.
But i am not denying it is a great mod.

[dai-kun]

I have over 1 million+ posts and have been using this for awhile now. I don't see any heavy load resulting from this mod.

[45wheelgun]

I don't know what you think is a big board, but I have it running on a board with 6000 active users, 450,000 posts, and 50,000 users. Run with over 1000 users online for hours at a time. My site map is 2,100,000 pages.

Oh, and this add-on runs like a champ with no noticeable strain on the system. The add-on rocks!

[cobaku]

it must be something with my php settings then
strange

[NLP-er]

Where are advantages between your addon and vB Global Translator (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?p=1910691)?

Global is illegal - Dave stole my code (and also money) and have no right to use my cache system. I'm still waiting till administrators of this forum will do something with that (anyway - someone knows a lawyer who could help me with this issue? or some agency where I can notice software piracy?)

Other things - global is weeeeeeeek. Just compare list of features. Also it is ugly with installation.

And more important My is much, much, much , much faster. Faster, better, easier, and more powerful.

Also - as I remember you already asked this question once ;)

[NLP-er]

I dont understand how people use this addon
it has massive overload to php
it has massive overload to mysql (did not test this one just a guess)
no way it can work for medium to big boards

Not only this but the other translators have same overload problem.
But i am not denying it is a great mod.

If you did not test it so do not tell how it behaves. Maybe when you already test it, and see how fast and powerful it is, maybe then you will understand why it is used by hundreds of forums. And why so many people said me thank you for this great mod.

You do NOT know does this mod has any overload problem. And it fact - it is greatly optimized and very fast.

I'm glad that you admit that it is great mod. Perhaps if you test things which you wrote about you could say something real in this topic :)

[NLP-er]

I don't know what you think is a big board, but I have it running on a board with 6000 active users, 450,000 posts, and 50,000 users. Run with over 1000 users online for hours at a time. My site map is 2,100,000 pages.

Oh, and this add-on runs like a champ with no noticeable strain on the system. The add-on rocks!

And this is kind of real information - straight from the field :)

Thanks for showing true face of this mod and have fun! :)

[NLP-er]

I have over 1 million+ posts and have been using this for awhile now. I don't see any heavy load resulting from this mod.

Even I didn't realized that I made such rocket of this mod :D And still have idea how to optimize more :D:D:D

[Kolbi]

Global is illegal - Dave stole my code (and also money) and have no right to use my cache system. I'm still waiting till administrators of this forum will do something with that (anyway - someone knows a lawyer who could help me with this issue? or some agency where I can notice software piracy?)

Other things - global is weeeeeeeek. Just compare list of features. Also it is ugly with installation.

And more important My is much, much, much , much faster. Faster, better, easier, and more powerful.

Also - as I remember you already asked this question once ;)

Okay thank you!
But will it be updated to vb 4.0?

And is it possible to update later to the paid version?

[jaderollie]

ill stick with NLP-er, and ill buy this tomorrow

[CThiessen]

Where are advantages between your addon and vB Global Translator (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?p=1910691)? (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?p=1910691%29?)

Hi,
with the 1st version of vB Global Translato Mod i had some problems.
Do a have request of some spiders my server stop working.

In the Moment I use the Mod of NLP-er. But I cant say if the problems stops because of the new Mod or because I block that spider in the firewall.
But the Mod from NLP-er is much faster.

And Users have the possibility to chose their language so everything they writing will be translated and other User might answer in their mother language.
I do have two threads in other languages.
On of them is a real success story.
Its a girl from Brazil. She register to my forum 2 Years ago as she plans move to Germany. Now she find my forum again on Google with a translated page.
And she find the possibility to select her language in her settings.
I just had a long telephone call with her. She is real glad that she could write in Portuguese and the answers in German are translated. She find help an new contact's here in Germany.
With the Mod from NLP-er is is possible to create real international community's.

Christian

[Kolbi]

I have a little bug.
If I translate a thread and then want to return to forumhome and click on my logo it redirectes to http://www.2-wheel-planet.de/en and then I get an 400 failure message?!?



How much ressources does this addon needs?

[dai-kun]

Your url suppose to be http://www.2-wheel-planet.de/en/, it's missing a slash.
What is the htaccess you have for vbet?

How much resource as in what? Mysql space usage?

[NLP-er]

Okay thank you!
But will it be updated to vb 4.0?

And is it possible to update later to the paid version?

It will support 4.0 - booth free and commercial version :)

You can switch from free version to paid one any time. However if you use vBSEO it would be best for you to make it faster than slower. It is because in such configuration you have great support of vBET to translate threat links :) So Google will index your translated pages under links with keywords in translated language :)

[NLP-er]

ill stick with NLP-er, and ill buy this tomorrow

Glad to hear and have fun with lot of great additional features in vBET 3.x :):up:

[NLP-er]

Hi,
with the 1st version of vB Global Translato Mod i had some problems.
Do a have request of some spiders my server stop working.

In the Moment I use the Mod of NLP-er. But I cant say if the problems stops because of the new Mod or because I block that spider in the firewall.
But the Mod from NLP-er is much faster.

And Users have the possibility to chose their language so everything they writing will be translated and other User might answer in their mother language.
I do have two threads in other languages.
On of them is a real success story.
Its a girl from Brazil. She register to my forum 2 Years ago as she plans move to Germany. Now she find my forum again on Google with a translated page.
And she find the possibility to select her language in her settings.
I just had a long telephone call with her. She is real glad that she could write in Portuguese and the answers in German are translated. She find help an new contact's here in Germany.
With the Mod from NLP-er is is possible to create real international community's.

Christian

I would be really glad if you can write it on vBET forum :) Anyway - my congratulations!!! Make sure that people will understand that they have this possibility and you will get lot of new users. They will bring you theirs friends :) Other forums don't gives them what you can give them now. So - it is good to write some word about multi language support in message for guests :)

[NLP-er]

I have a little bug.
If I translate a thread and then want to return to forumhome and click on my logo it redirectes to http://www.2-wheel-planet.de/en and then I get an 400 failure message?!?



How much ressources does this addon needs?

I see it. Thanks for notice - I will correct it in next release. For booth versions of course :) As I announces vBET 2.x will be maintained.

EDITED
Sorry but I cannot reproduce it on my 4 forums (2 real, 2 test) in different configurations. Can you PM me Access Details to your FTP (I think I will not need Admin CP). It would help me to find out what happens.

EDITED 2
Ok :) I have it corrected and tested already (thanks 45Wheelgun for access :):up:) It will be included in next release.

About resources. It will take quite of space in your DB for cache, but hard drive is not an issue in this time and all data are indexed so access is immediate :)

[NLP-er]

Your url suppose to be http://www.2-wheel-planet.de/en/, it's missing a slash.
What is the htaccess you have for vbet?

Yes - vBET is missing this slash, but I cannot reproduce it on my forum, so it is very good question about htaccess rules :)

[Kolbi]

Yes - vBET is missing this slash, but I cannot reproduce it on my forum, so it is very good question about htaccess rules :)

I found the issue. It was my header template :)
<a href="$vboptions[bburl]/">
just had to add the /
:)


About resources. It will take quite of space in your DB for cache, but hard drive is not an issue in this time and all data are indexed so access is immediate
So it does not influence the normal Pageload time (if it isn?t translated)? Only the flags are causing a little bit more loading time?

Are there statistics how much traffic you can get? And also splitted up in the languages?


Another little bug, I?m using Cyb - Advanced Forum Statistics and the links within the Statistics aren?t redirecting to the translated page, it redirects to the normal language.

[Kolbi]

Since adding the new languages to vbseo sitemap I can?t run sitemap generator because it breaks down after a while. And it does not finish work.

[SECTION START] showthread [7,956.1Kb mem used] [84,918s (+83,959s)]
[SECTION START] blogs [8,181.7Kb mem used] [84,920s (+2s)]
[SECTION START] tags [8,184.4Kb mem used] [84,920s (+0s)]
Than it stopps working....

[jaderollie]

Bought my version, and will review it in afew days for you all ;)
especially for those still on the fence wondering weather to buy it, or not ;)
im also going with a paid install, as im not to clever with computers, or servers :(

[Ruler68jg]

I have installed it but as soon as i choose a different language I get this error !

Internal Server Error
The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.
Please contact the server administrator, support@myprovider.com and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error.

More information about this error may be available in the server error log.

[OMNIX]

welcome
I have a configuration file. htaccess
someone give me the sea as it is to look where is the mistake?

# Comment the following line (add '#' at the beginning)
# to disable mod_rewrite functions.
# Please note: you still need to disable the hack in
# the vBSEO control panel to stop url rewrites.
RewriteEngine On

# Some servers require the Rewritebase directive to be
# enabled (remove '#' at the beginning to activate)
# Please note: when enabled, you must include the path
# to your root vB folder (i.e. RewriteBase /forums/)
#RewriteBase /

#RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} !^www\.kronos-sat\.pl
#RewriteRule (.*) http://www.kronos-sat.pl/$1 [L,R=301]

RewriteRule ^((urllist|sitemap_).*\.(xml|txt)(\.gz)?)$ vbseo_sitemap/vbseo_getsitemap.php?sitemap=$1 [L]

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !(admincp/|modcp/|cron|vbseo_sitemap)
RewriteRule ^((archive/)?(.*\.php(/.*)?))$ vbseo.php [L,QSA]

[Ruler68jg]

if you have asked for my .htaccess, its as following :
#rules for SEO translation links without vbSEO

RewriteEngine On

RewriteRule ^/?(af|sq|ar|be|bg|ca|zh-CN|hr|cs|da|nl|en|et|tl|fi|fr|gl|de|el|iw|hi|hu|is |id|ga|it|ja|ko|lv|lt|mk|ms|mt |no|fa|pl|pt|ro|ru|sr|sk|sl|es|sw|sv|zh-TW|th|tr|uk|vi|sq|ca|et|tl|gl|hi|id|lv|lt|mt|sl|uk |vi|cy|yi)/$ index.php?language=$1 [L,QSA]
RewriteRule ^/?(af|sq|ar|be|bg|ca|zh-CN|hr|cs|da|nl|en|et|tl|fi|fr|gl|de|el|iw|hi|hu|is |id|ga|it|ja|ko|lv|lt|mk|ms|mt |no|fa|pl|pt|ro|ru|sr|sk|sl|es|sw|sv|zh-TW|th|tr|uk|vi|sq|ca|et|tl|gl|hi|id|lv|lt|mt|sl|uk |vi|cy|yi)/(.*)?$ $2?language=$1 [L,QSA]

#rules for SEO translation links with vbSEO (have to be included before all rules to vbseo.php)

#RewriteRule ^/?(af|sq|ar|be|bg|ca|zh-CN|hr|cs|da|nl|en|et|tl|fi|fr|gl|de|el|iw|hi|hu|is |id|ga|it|ja|ko|lv|lt|mk|ms|mt |no|fa|pl|pt|ro|ru|sr|sk|sl|es|sw|sv|zh-TW|th|tr|uk|vi|sq|ca|et|tl|gl|hi|id|lv|lt|mt|sl|uk |vi|cy|yi)/$ vbenterprisetranslator_seo.php?vbet_lang=$1&redirected=/index.php [L,QSA]
#RewriteRule ^/?(af|sq|ar|be|bg|ca|zh-CN|hr|cs|da|nl|en|et|tl|fi|fr|gl|de|el|iw|hi|hu|is |id|ga|it|ja|ko|lv|lt|mk|ms|mt |no|fa|pl|pt|ro|ru|sr|sk|sl|es|sw|sv|zh-TW|th|tr|uk|vi|sq|ca|et|tl|gl|hi|id|lv|lt|mt|sl|uk |vi|cy|yi)/(.*)?$ vbenterprisetranslator_seo.php?vbet_lang=$1&redirected=/$2 [L,QSA]

#RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !(admincp/|modcp/|vbseo_sitemap/|cron)
#RewriteRule ^((archive/)?(.*\.php(/.*)?))$ vbenterprisetranslator_seo.php [L,QSA]

hope I can get a solution

[dai-kun]

I have installed it but as soon as i choose a different language I get this error !

Internal Server Error
The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.
Please contact the server administrator, support@myprovider.com and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error.

More information about this error may be available in the server error log.

Do you have Mod Security installed? Go to your WHM and scroll down to the Plugins section and see if Mod Security is listed under it. Then click on it and see if there are blocked logs.

if you have asked for my .htaccess, its as following :
#rules for SEO translation links without vbSEO

RewriteEngine On

RewriteRule ^/?(af|sq|ar|be|bg|ca|zh-CN|hr|cs|da|nl|en|et|tl|fi|fr|gl|de|el|iw|hi|hu|is |id|ga|it|ja|ko|lv|lt|mk|ms|mt|no|fa|pl|pt|ro|ru|s r|sk|sl|es|sw|sv|zh-TW|th|tr|uk|vi|sq|ca|et|tl|gl|hi|id|lv|lt|mt|sl|uk |vi|cy|yi)/$ index.php?language=$1 [L,QSA]
RewriteRule ^/?(af|sq|ar|be|bg|ca|zh-CN|hr|cs|da|nl|en|et|tl|fi|fr|gl|de|el|iw|hi|hu|is |id|ga|it|ja|ko|lv|lt|mk|ms|mt|no|fa|pl|pt|ro|ru|s r|sk|sl|es|sw|sv|zh-TW|th|tr|uk|vi|sq|ca|et|tl|gl|hi|id|lv|lt|mt|sl|uk |vi|cy|yi)/(.*)?$ $2?language=$1 [L,QSA]




#rules for SEO translation links with vbSEO (have to be included before all rules to vbseo.php)

#RewriteRule ^/?(af|sq|ar|be|bg|ca|zh-CN|hr|cs|da|nl|en|et|tl|fi|fr|gl|de|el|iw|hi|hu|is |id|ga|it|ja|ko|lv|lt|mk|ms|mt|no|fa|pl|pt|ro|ru|s r|sk|sl|es|sw|sv|zh-TW|th|tr|uk|vi|sq|ca|et|tl|gl|hi|id|lv|lt|mt|sl|uk |vi|cy|yi)/$ vbenterprisetranslator_seo.php?vbet_lang=$1&redirected=/index.php [L,QSA]
#RewriteRule ^/?(af|sq|ar|be|bg|ca|zh-CN|hr|cs|da|nl|en|et|tl|fi|fr|gl|de|el|iw|hi|hu|is |id|ga|it|ja|ko|lv|lt|mk|ms|mt|no|fa|pl|pt|ro|ru|s r|sk|sl|es|sw|sv|zh-TW|th|tr|uk|vi|sq|ca|et|tl|gl|hi|id|lv|lt|mt|sl|uk |vi|cy|yi)/(.*)?$ vbenterprisetranslator_seo.php?vbet_lang=$1&redirected=/$2 [L,QSA]

#RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !(admincp/|modcp/|vbseo_sitemap/|cron)
#RewriteRule ^((archive/)?(.*\.php(/.*)?))$ vbenterprisetranslator_seo.php [L,QSA]

hope I can get a solution

You use the first set of code for without vbseo, and the 2nd set with vbseo..

[dai-kun]

welcome
I have a configuration file. htaccess
someone give me the sea as it is to look where is the mistake?

# Comment the following line (add '#' at the beginning)
# to disable mod_rewrite functions.
# Please note: you still need to disable the hack in
# the vBSEO control panel to stop url rewrites.
RewriteEngine On

# Some servers require the Rewritebase directive to be
# enabled (remove '#' at the beginning to activate)
# Please note: when enabled, you must include the path
# to your root vB folder (i.e. RewriteBase /forums/)
#RewriteBase /

#RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} !^www\.kronos-sat\.pl
#RewriteRule (.*) http://www.kronos-sat.pl/$1 [L,R=301]

RewriteRule ^((urllist|sitemap_).*\.(xml|txt)(\.gz)?)$ vbseo_sitemap/vbseo_getsitemap.php?sitemap=$1 [L]

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !(admincp/|modcp/|cron|vbseo_sitemap)
RewriteRule ^((archive/)?(.*\.php(/.*)?))$ vbseo.php [L,QSA]

Use

RewriteEngine On
##########vBET
RewriteRule ^/?(af|sq|ar|be|bg|ca|zh-CN|hr|cs|da|nl|en|et|tl|fi|fr|gl|de|el|iw|hi|hu|is |id|ga|it|ja|ko|lv|lt|mk|ms|mt|no|fa|pl|pt|ro|ru|s r|sk|sl|es|sw|sv|zh-TW|th|tr|uk|vi|cy|yi)/$ vbenterprisetranslator_seo.php?vbet_lang=$1&redirected=/index.php [L,QSA]
RewriteRule ^/?(af|sq|ar|be|bg|ca|zh-CN|hr|cs|da|nl|en|et|tl|fi|fr|gl|de|el|iw|hi|hu|is |id|ga|it|ja|ko|lv|lt|mk|ms|mt|no|fa|pl|pt|ro|ru|s r|sk|sl|es|sw|sv|zh-TW|th|tr|uk|vi|cy|yi)/(.*)?$ vbenterprisetranslator_seo.php?vbet_lang=$1&redirected=/$2 [L,QSA]

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !(admincp/|modcp/|vbseo_sitemap/|cron)
RewriteRule ^((archive/)?(.*\.php(/.*)?))$ vbenterprisetranslator_seo.php [L,QSA]

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-d
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !^(admincp|modcp|clientscript|cpstyles|images)/
RewriteRule $ vbenterprisetranslator_seo.php [L,QSA]
##########

##########vBSEO
#RewriteBase /

#RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} !^www\.kronos-sat\.pl
#RewriteRule (.*) http://www.kronos-sat.pl/$1 [L,R=301]

RewriteRule ^((urllist|sitemap_).*\.(xml|txt)(\.gz)?)$ vbseo_sitemap/vbseo_getsitemap.php?sitemap=$1 [L]

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !(admincp/|modcp/|cron|vbseo_sitemap)
RewriteRule ^((archive/)?(.*\.php(/.*)?))$ vbseo.php [L,QSA]

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-d
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !/(admincp|modcp|clientscript|cpstyles|images)/
RewriteRule ^(.+)$ vbseo.php [L,QSA]
##########

[Blacura]

I added the update but now when i click on a flag the language will not change. what did i do wrong?

[OMNIX]

Use


when you paste. htaccess file perish the entire text from the forum after you select a language

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/ (http://img527.imageshack.us/i/ks2.png/)

[dai-kun]

when you paste. htaccess file perish the entire text from the forum after you select a language

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/ (http://img527.imageshack.us/i/ks2.png/)


Do you have iconv and curl installed? Check your php.info if the extension is installed.

[OMNIX]

Do you have iconv and curl installed? Check your php.info if the extension is installed.


so yesterday I explained I was home at the forums are no longer
So looking for what is wrong

[Blacura]

ok i got this working but how do i add this to my VBcmps page?

[NLP-er]

I found the issue. It was my header template :)
<a href="$vboptions[bburl]/">
just had to add the /
:)


So it does not influence the normal Pageload time (if it isn?t translated)? Only the flags are causing a little bit more loading time?

Are there statistics how much traffic you can get? And also splitted up in the languages?


Another little bug, I?m using Cyb - Advanced Forum Statistics and the links within the Statistics aren?t redirecting to the translated page, it redirects to the normal language.

In next release it will work also for those who don't have this / :)

About flags and loading time - no those are not causing more loading time, since after first time most browsers just cache images.

About Cyb statistic. It is not a bug - page is translated well. Statistics are just not part of the page - those are taken by AJAX beside page generation process. vBET can be of course integrated with AJAX - 3.x is fully integrated with vBulletin AJAX editors. And vBET 3.x will be integrated wit most used mods in its time.

I do not plan new features for vBET 2.x (only maintenance) so added integration for vBET 2.x to Cyb statistic will not be directly supported by my side.

But I will gladly help to any author of any mod who wants make it compatible with vBET. So you can aways ask author of the other mod will he make integration with vBET and give him integration that he will get help from me in this task. It can be really very simple :)

[NLP-er]

Since adding the new languages to vbseo sitemap I can?t run sitemap generator because it breaks down after a while. And it does not finish work.


Than it stopps working....

Please make sure you made integration alright. After that go to configuration options. Change settings for number of links in one sitemap to lower one, and make longer time space between each one. Most probably generator was stopped by your server because too big server load.

[NLP-er]

welcome
I have a configuration file. htaccess
someone give me the sea as it is to look where is the mistake?

# Comment the following line (add '#' at the beginning)
# to disable mod_rewrite functions.
# Please note: you still need to disable the hack in
# the vBSEO control panel to stop url rewrites.
RewriteEngine On

# Some servers require the Rewritebase directive to be
# enabled (remove '#' at the beginning to activate)
# Please note: when enabled, you must include the path
# to your root vB folder (i.e. RewriteBase /forums/)
#RewriteBase /

#RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} !^www\.kronos-sat\.pl
#RewriteRule (.*) http://www.kronos-sat.pl/$1 [L,R=301]

RewriteRule ^((urllist|sitemap_).*\.(xml|txt)(\.gz)?)$ vbseo_sitemap/vbseo_getsitemap.php?sitemap=$1 [L]

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !(admincp/|modcp/|cron|vbseo_sitemap)
RewriteRule ^((archive/)?(.*\.php(/.*)?))$ vbseo.php [L,QSA]

You do not have here vBET rules at all. Also for just vBSEO it is too short. There should be more rules. Which version of vBSEO are you using?

[NLP-er]

if you have asked for my .htaccess, its as following :
#rules for SEO translation links without vbSEO

RewriteEngine On

RewriteRule ^/?(af|sq|ar|be|bg|ca|zh-CN|hr|cs|da|nl|en|et|tl|fi|fr|gl|de|el|iw|hi|hu|is |id|ga|it|ja|ko|lv|lt|mk|ms|mt|no|fa|pl|pt|ro|ru|s r|sk|sl|es|sw|sv|zh-TW|th|tr|uk|vi|sq|ca|et|tl|gl|hi|id|lv|lt|mt|sl|uk |vi|cy|yi)/$ index.php?language=$1 [L,QSA]
RewriteRule ^/?(af|sq|ar|be|bg|ca|zh-CN|hr|cs|da|nl|en|et|tl|fi|fr|gl|de|el|iw|hi|hu|is |id|ga|it|ja|ko|lv|lt|mk|ms|mt|no|fa|pl|pt|ro|ru|s r|sk|sl|es|sw|sv|zh-TW|th|tr|uk|vi|sq|ca|et|tl|gl|hi|id|lv|lt|mt|sl|uk |vi|cy|yi)/(.*)?$ $2?language=$1 [L,QSA]




#rules for SEO translation links with vbSEO (have to be included before all rules to vbseo.php)

#RewriteRule ^/?(af|sq|ar|be|bg|ca|zh-CN|hr|cs|da|nl|en|et|tl|fi|fr|gl|de|el|iw|hi|hu|is |id|ga|it|ja|ko|lv|lt|mk|ms|mt|no|fa|pl|pt|ro|ru|s r|sk|sl|es|sw|sv|zh-TW|th|tr|uk|vi|sq|ca|et|tl|gl|hi|id|lv|lt|mt|sl|uk |vi|cy|yi)/$ vbenterprisetranslator_seo.php?vbet_lang=$1&redirected=/index.php [L,QSA]
#RewriteRule ^/?(af|sq|ar|be|bg|ca|zh-CN|hr|cs|da|nl|en|et|tl|fi|fr|gl|de|el|iw|hi|hu|is |id|ga|it|ja|ko|lv|lt|mk|ms|mt|no|fa|pl|pt|ro|ru|s r|sk|sl|es|sw|sv|zh-TW|th|tr|uk|vi|sq|ca|et|tl|gl|hi|id|lv|lt|mt|sl|uk |vi|cy|yi)/(.*)?$ vbenterprisetranslator_seo.php?vbet_lang=$1&redirected=/$2 [L,QSA]

#RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !(admincp/|modcp/|vbseo_sitemap/|cron)
#RewriteRule ^((archive/)?(.*\.php(/.*)?))$ vbenterprisetranslator_seo.php [L,QSA]

hope I can get a solution

Do you use vBSEO?

[OMNIX]

VB 3.8.4 I VBSEO 3.3.2

Powered by vBulletin® Version -=KS=-
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.2
Licensed to kronos-sat.pl - Kronos-Sat vBulletin
vBulletin Skin developed by: kronos-sat

[NLP-er]

I added the update but now when i click on a flag the language will not change. what did i do wrong?

And what happens? Can you give me your forum link?

[NLP-er]

when you paste. htaccess file perish the entire text from the forum after you select a language

http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/2236/ks2.png (http://img527.imageshack.us/i/ks2.png/)

Please just see the FAQ in first post. You have wrong Google API key or you didn't configured appropriately the mod - details in first post :)

[NLP-er]

ok i got this working but how do i add this to my VBcmps page?

Great to hear :) Mod is well tested by hundreds of forums, so if some issues comes it mostly means that it was wrong installed or configured ;)

What is VBcmps page?

[OMNIX]

so actually the wine key, now the main forum for translators to 100% for many of the interpreters do not?

[Blacura]

Great to hear :) Mod is well tested by hundreds of forums, so if some issues comes it mostly means that it was wrong installed or configured ;)

What is VBcmps page?

this is vb cmps

http://www.vbadvanced.com/products.php?do=productinfo&productid=4

[Ruler68jg]

Do you have Mod Security installed? Go to your WHM and scroll down to the Plugins section and see if Mod Security is listed under it. Then click on it and see if there are blocked logs.



You use the first set of code for without vbseo, and the 2nd set with vbseo..

May I ask what is "Go to your WHM and scroll down to the Plugins section " or where is WHM ??

and my forum is Powered by vBulletin? Version 3.8.4 so I guess I am not useing vBSEO?
Please help me , I had this idea that it was going to be a very easy modification but it seems to be very complicated !!!

OK I got it NOW its not free one has to buy the software to make it work ???

[albramj]

Thank you very much
installed

[Kolbi]

Please make sure you made integration alright.
Integration is checked and alright. Currently I only added en language to sitemap and it works.

After that go to configuration options. Change settings for number of links in one sitemap to lower one, and make longer time space between each one. Most probably generator was stopped by your server because too big server load.
How to make a longer time space? The number of urls is decreased now.

[NLP-er]

so actually the wine key, now the main forum for translators to 100% for many of the interpreters do not?

I don't understand the question :) Can you ask it again in other words? :)

[NLP-er]

this is vb cmps

http://www.vbadvanced.com/products.php?do=productinfo&productid=4

vBET 3.x will be completly integrated with vB Advanced Dynamics in next release. You can make suggestions about next mods which you want be integrated on this thread:
http://www.vbenterprisetranslator.com/forum/general-discussions/90-mods-should-supported-vbet.html#post274

[NLP-er]

May I ask what is "Go to your WHM and scroll down to the Plugins section " or where is WHM ??

and my forum is Powered by vBulletin? Version 3.8.4 so I guess I am not useing vBSEO?
Please help me , I had this idea that it was going to be a very easy modification but it seems to be very complicated !!!

OK I got it NOW its not free one has to buy the software to make it work ???

NO! You are on free mod side. And to be clear vBET 2.x is completely free and it translates your forum to 52 languages. vBET 3.x is paid and it has lot of additional features in translation area.

So you can use it free. It is working and if you have some issues then most probably you did something wrong during installation/configuration process. Please PM me all details about what is going on, but FIRST install mod again FOLLOWING installation instructions in mod description and go to FAQ in first post of this mod. When you do everything how it is described and you will still get some issues, then PM me with details.

[NLP-er]

How to make a longer time space? The number of urls is decreased now.

Set "Delay Execution After Each Sitemap File"

[Kolbi]

Set "Delay Execution After Each Sitemap File"

Still interrups creating a sitemap.
Set 10000 links per sitemap and delay execution to 60 seconds...

How long does it take to index the new sites? :)

[CThiessen]

How long does it take to index the new sites? :)

well, Google is very gently, the spider will not stress your Server.
On my old Server Google read between 3000 an 40.000 Pages per Day.
Now on the new Server up to 75.200 Pages per Day even without translations in the sitemap.

Christian

[Kolbi]

@CThiessen deutsch w?re auch gegangen :)

Well, since a week none of the translated pages is indexed? Seems that Google is a little bit laizy :)

[imported_silkroad]

well, Google is very gently, the spider will not stress your Server.
On my old Server Google read between 3000 an 40.000 Pages per Day.
Now on the new Server up to 75.200 Pages per Day even without translations in the sitemap.

Christian

Hahaha :D

GoogleBot is not always gentle, that is only in the default setting where GoogleBot determines the crawl rate and you are lucky. If you set the crawl rate faster in your Webmaster Tools, to index faster, GoogleBot is very aggressive and GoogleBot can easily stress your server, depending on your configuration and number of users etc. If you have no or few users, then no problem. If you have thousands of users on line, the GoogleBot can slow performance significantly, especially with a high crawl rate, like 8 to 10 URLS per second.

Also, if your sitemap settings are incorrectly configured, GoogleBot will recrawl links it has already indexed; so you must set your sitemap setting so the URLs do not need to be recrawled. I recommend, for most forums, an expire time (Update Frequency) of NEVER, or at the least 1 year for posts and threads.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask. We have been running translations for nearly 5 months and use sitemaps for each language. Our sitemaps with around 15 languages is around 8,000,000 URLs. I have seen millions of URLs that were already indexed dumped when the sitemap setting were set to refresh in one month. This is a very bad :D It takes a long time to rebuild your index after Google dumps millions (or thousands) of indexed URLs.

You must use Google Webmaster tools.

Furthermore, I strongly recommend creating a sitemap for each major language, i.e. EN, JP, ES, DE, FR, PT. etc.

Moreover, you must run Google Analytics to see how each language performs. You can set a custom report for the translated languages and easily graph how the site performs.

In other words, you must have a solid management plan to optimize performance, which includes sitemap management, Webmaster tools, and Google analytics.

Cheers.

[sebil]

is it possible to add more languages to it?

for example:- we are a community based in south india
and our mother tongue is malayalam..

is there any way to add our language...?

if yes... ! How?

Thank youuuuuuuuuu

btw... astonishing workkk

[jaderollie]

is it possible to add more languages to it?

for example:- we are a community based in south india
and our mother tongue is malayalam..

is there any way to add our language...?

if yes... ! How?

Thank youuuuuuuuuu

btw... astonishing workkk

i would be interested in adding this language too
i have afew india magicians on my site who would like this

[jmpa]

Anchor tags break the translation!

It works with seo links like /es/

But not with "faq.phpfaq=vb3_board_usage#faq_vb3_rating_threads? language=es"

[GTX2]

Just a simple question, i've installed this hack and translation is done OK.
What i don't see is the URL being translated (just like DEMO), since i use VBSEO.

If i choose option "Create URL's according to SEO link consensus (i.e. '/en/address')", i see an internal server error, if i choose "Add language parameter to URL (i.e. 'address?language=en')" everything runs fine, except URL translation.

Any way to solve this out?

Thank you

[Audax666]

Awesome Addon!
Installed & donated

I'm using the english, french and spanish translation (home language is german).
My problem is, I'm using my brand name in title and at the french language translate it.

Any idea how to fix that? Maybe a blacklist for words not to translate?

[reddyink]

How to move the flags to the footer? Bottom of the forum.

Thanks

[Audax666]

@reddyink
Look at the VB options for VB Enterprise Translator and search for "Flags Place", there you can change the position.

[NLP-er]

2.3.5 RELEASED

Important change! According to new Google conditions referrer header must be added to each translation query - otherwise you can be banned by Google. Install this version to avoid any troubles.
Changes:
- Added referrer header for Google translation queries
- Corrected bug for returning to forum main page from translated page

Also according to actual Google conditions your "Powered by Google" information should have Google logo. So please change in your vBET configuration, text for flags to something like this:

Automatic Translations (Powered by <span style="vertical-align:sub;"><img src="http://www.google.com/uds/css/small-logo.png" alt="Powered by Google" border="0"/></span>):

You can customize it but "Powered by Google" should stay.

[imported_silkroad]

Also according to actual Google conditions your "Powered by Google" information should have Google logo.

Where is this in the Google TOS?

I just checked the API, and there was no text in the TOS requiring a logo, only "Powered by Google".

Please provide a link to the TOS where a logo is also required. Thanks.

[imported_silkroad]

Here is the Google TOS that governs this API:

http://code.google.com/apis/ajaxsearch/terms.html

I searched that TOS and it does not mention "header" anywhere.

So... please, please, post the link to the TOS you are speaking about.

Inquiring minds want to know :D

[NLP-er]

Still interrups creating a sitemap.
Set 10000 links per sitemap and delay execution to 60 seconds...

How long does it take to index the new sites? :)

About Sitemap Generator - try to disable generation of some links (i.e. for members pages). No other hints - it is not my product, so have no idea what else you could do. Maybe change number of links to even less. This is first time when somebody have an issue with this (as I remember ;)). Maybe some logs are created?...

About indexing the new sites - each forum in other tempo. It depends how many those new pages you have and how often and fast Google crawls on your site.

[NLP-er]

is it possible to add more languages to it?

for example:- we are a community based in south india
and our mother tongue is malayalam..

is there any way to add our language...?

if yes... ! How?

Thank youuuuuuuuuu

btw... astonishing workkk

I will add any new language supported by Google. So if you find out that Google added it just start screaming ;)

[NLP-er]

i would be interested in adding this language too
i have afew india magicians on my site who would like this

As I wrote - each new language supported by Google will be added to booth vBET versions :) Just let me know if I miss it :)

[NLP-er]

Anchor tags break the translation!

It works with seo links like /es/

But not with "faq.phpfaq=vb3_board_usage#faq_vb3_rating_threads? language=es"

Thanks for note. I added it to TODO list. Can you give me full broken url?

Also - please note that it is advised to use SEO links type (you can use it without any SEO engine). This language= type should be treated as obsolete.

[NLP-er]

Just a simple question, i've installed this hack and translation is done OK.
What i don't see is the URL being translated (just like DEMO), since i use VBSEO.

If i choose option "Create URL's according to SEO link consensus (i.e. '/en/address')", i see an internal server error, if i choose "Add language parameter to URL (i.e. 'address?language=en')" everything runs fine, except URL translation.

Any way to solve this out?

Thank you

Please note that demo is running on vBET 3.x and here you have for free vBET 2.x the full difference in features list you will find here:
http://www.vbenterprisetranslator.com/forum/vbet-announcements/4-vb-enterprise-translator-features.html

Of course vBET 2.x supports SEO links type (just don't translates it). Your issues are because you made something wrong in your configuration. It is clearly described in parameter description that you have to set appropriate .htaccess rules - you have even link to article which describes how (it is here in first post). Just do what is described - AND DO IT ALL. It is obvious that it will break if you make mess. Fallow instructions and it will be fine :) If you will do EVERYTHING as is described and will still have some issues, then PM me.

[NLP-er]

Awesome Addon!
Installed & donated

I'm using the english, french and spanish translation (home language is german).
My problem is, I'm using my brand name in title and at the french language translate it.

Any idea how to fix that? Maybe a blacklist for words not to translate?

Just use not translated area :) See mod description - details in features list :)

[NLP-er]

How to move the flags to the footer? Bottom of the forum.

Thanks

Use configuration :)

[NLP-er]

Where is this in the Google TOS?

I just checked the API, and there was no text in the TOS requiring a logo, only "Powered by Google".

Please provide a link to the TOS where a logo is also required. Thanks.

Below you will find mail from Google to one site which was blocked because of not fitting into Google TOS. You can set your flags description as you want (that's why I made it configurable ;)) - I only give suggestions which in my mind are the best for users of my mod :)

Thanks for clarifying your usage of the API. I should be able to get your site unblocked momentarily.

Please draw your attention to our terms of use:
http://code.google.com/apis/ajaxlanguage/terms.html

Specifically, I wanted to make sure that you're aware that you're only allowed to cache results for up to 15 days - no translations should be stored on your servers beyond that period, without being refreshed. Also, please notice the requirements regarding attribution. I appreciated that you've included a note at the bottom that translations are powered by Google, but you should also include "Powered by Google" branding on every page that includes translations from the API so that it's clear that the current text is machine translated. The API will provide this branding automatically:
http://code.google.com/apis/ajaxlanguage/documentation/#Branding

[imported_silkroad]

Below you will find mail from Google to one site which was blocked because of not fitting into Google TOS. You can set your flags description as you want (that's why I made it configurable ;)) - I only give suggestions which in my mind are the best for users of my mod :)

Yes, that email from Google clearly points to the same TOS as I posted and no where in Google's email or TOS do they require the Google logo.

That is why I am confused because you said there was a "change in the TOS" but there has been no change in the Google TOS.

Also, you said that Google requires their logo or that they will ban the user. That is also not correct. Google's TOS does not require a logo. It requires "Powered by Google." (text).

Having said that... the Google logo is very nice and we use it :D

Also, there is nothing in the Google TOS that requires a referral header during database queries.

[imported_silkroad]

Important change! According to new Google conditions referrer header must be added to each translation query - otherwise you can be banned by Google.

This is not in the Google TOS (sorry to correct you). So, this statement is not correct. In addition, when Google blocks access to their API this is not "banned by Google" ... it is called "blocked to use the API".

Also according to actual Google conditions your "Powered by Google" information should have Google logo

Sorry, but this is also incorrect. There is no text in the Google TOS that requires the use of their logo. I am confused why you post incorrect information like this. You are normally accurate. Google's TOS has not changed. There is no requirement in the same TOS for referral headers and no requirement for a logo.

It might be "good" or "nice" to add the logo, but it is certainly not required by the "actual Google conditions" (and you said).

This is unlike you NPL-er !! You are normally very factual. Are you under some stress or pressure?

Take it easy!!! :D

[Kolbi]

About Sitemap Generator - try to disable generation of some links (i.e. for members pages). No other hints - it is not my product, so have no idea what else you could do. Maybe change number of links to even less. This is first time when somebody have an issue with this (as I remember ;)). Maybe some logs are created?...

I tried to reduce the links. Perhaps my server is really the problem :)
It really a little bit overloaded.

[Audax666]

Thanks for the help.
Everything is fine now. :up:

[NLP-er]

Yes, that email from Google clearly points to the same TOS as I posted and no where in Google's email or TOS do they require the Google logo.

When I see direct recommendation given to forum which was already banned, then I prefer to give good advice to all my users and apply myself, than discuss with Google how they should interpret their own TOS after they ban my page ;) It is simple matter of avoid potential issues which can take much more time that just change configuration of one parameter. + and -... I see much more + in applying to Google request :)

Also please take attention that there was 2 links. And under this one (http://code.google.com/apis/ajaxlanguage/documentation/#Branding) you can find:
When your application uses the Google AJAX Language APIs, it is important to communicate the Google brand to your users

And of course you can discuss that vBET is not using Google AJAX API, but CURL, and you can discuss that it is recommendation, but what for waiting till Google ban your forum to make this discussion?...

That is why I am confused because you said there was a "change in the TOS" but there has been no change in the Google TOS.

Yes you have completely right - it is not in TOS :)
Sorry for confusion.


Also, you said that Google requires their logo or that they will ban the user. That is also not correct. Google's TOS does not require a logo. It requires "Powered by Google." (text).

See the source - you have answer from Google to forum which was already banned. I'm just the messenger here - do not shut the messenger. Go to message author if you want to discuss the issue - go to Google. I simply cannot be responsible and cannot explain others position. So if you think that Google interpret wrong their own TOS - please contact Google for explanation.

At this moment I have information straight from Google that "Powered by Google" should include the logo and I will fit it in default configuration. Every user can make own decision about keeping it or not - it is configurable :) I will not put my users in risk to be banned because of unclarity in TOS or wrong understanding of TOS by Google own personnel if I have simple way to avoid any potential issues in this area. This is how I manage the risk. Sorry for confusion - I didn't read whole TOS from the begging - I just used information straight from Google, and still I think that it is wiser to set Google logo than put yourself in the risk of being banned.

Having said that... the Google logo is very nice and we use it :D

Great :)

Also, there is nothing in the Google TOS that requires a referral header during database queries.

First of all - it is not about database queries (there are no headers), but about HTTP GET queries to Google service. And you are wrong about referral header.
You assumed that all conditions are in one place - and this is not safe assumption. You can find TOS on other pages too - this particular you will find here:
http://code.google.com/intl/pl-PL/apis/ajaxsearch/documentation/reference.html#_intro_fonje

"Applications MUST always include a valid and accurate http referer header in their requests."

Big letters in MUST are not added by me - it is written this way in Google documentation, so i think that clearly marks Google position in this area :)

[NLP-er]

This is not in the Google TOS (sorry to correct you). So, this statement is not correct.

I see no problem in correcting :)
Also you are wrong about referral header. You assumed that all conditions are in one place - and this is not safe assumption. You can find TOS on other pages too - this particular you will find here:
http://code.google.com/intl/pl-PL/apis/ajaxsearch/documentation/reference.html#_intro_fonje

"Applications MUST always include a valid and accurate http referer header in their requests."

Big letters in MUST are not added by me - it is written this way in Google documentation, so i think that clearly marks Google position in this area :)

In addition, when Google blocks access to their API this is not "banned by Google" ... it is called "blocked to use the API".

Different word - same meaning :) and same results. And I think that everybody understood it correctly.

BTW - Are you a lawyer? I'm looking one, because some guy stole my code, and I see that you like to use exact words, even if substitute has same meaning, so I thought that maybe you can help me with my issue :) If yes please PM me - thanks:up:

Sorry, but this is also incorrect. There is no text in the Google TOS that requires the use of their logo. I am confused why you post incorrect information like this. You are normally accurate. Google's TOS has not changed. There is no requirement in the same TOS for referral headers and no requirement for a logo.

I'm confused why you are still confused - you get exact answer from Google. So if you think they are wrong, please contact them and discus their position. I cannot tell you why they interpret it in such way. But I can tell you that not applying you put yourself in a risk to be banned ("blocked to use the API"). And if you want to know why I give this information to my user, then the answer is very simple: because I care about my users :)

So is there really any issue or it is only about using exact words from documentation and being better in reading it?
You are better :) and I still care about my users, so my recommendation is still the same - use Google logo :)

Reading 2 posts in row about the same + PM, I get impression that it is only about proving some point and It has totally no reflection in reality since you applied Google logo yourself. So what is the real point here, and can we close it?

It might be "good" or "nice" to add the logo, but it is certainly not required by the "actual Google conditions" (and you said).

Yes I said.

This is unlike you NPL-er !! You are normally very factual. Are you under some stress or pressure?

Stress - not at all. Pressure - of course yes. Every second counts when my users are in danger of being banned ("blocked to use the API" - sorry, but banned is just simpler ;)), so I made all changes, made tests and give people what makes them safe as fast as I could. I didn't thought to discuss with Google about wrong TOS interpretation by their own staff.

Truly saying I still don't see the point - what is the point of having right when you loose and your forum is banned?...

When people are with me, they are with the man who thinks how to win...

Sounds like commercial :D haha

Take it easy!!! :D

Booth way?... ;)

[NLP-er]

I tried to reduce the links. Perhaps my server is really the problem :)
It really a little bit overloaded.

You know it best :) Just play with configuration - vBSEO stuff make really good generator and there is lot of configuration possibilities.
Always you can just remove from sitemap some translations or all of those - at the end spiders will find it by links on forum, but you have less control then and it can take longer (i think :)).

[NLP-er]

Thanks for the help.
Everything is fine now. :up:

Great to hear :) HAVE FUN with vBET!!! :D:up:

[Kolbi]

Always you can just remove from sitemap some translations or all of those - at the end spiders will find it by links on forum, but you have less control then and it can take longer (i think :)).
Which languages do you prefer?
Are there statistics with which language you can get most traffic?

[Audax666]

Great to hear :) HAVE FUN with vBET!!! :D:up:
Not yet, sorry:o

Your tag <!--START vBET NOT TRANSLATED AREA--> and <!--END vBET NOT TRANSLATED AREA-->, works fine for every language expcept the home language.
There, the tag is completely shown on browser title.
I just recognized it after my last post and removed it cause it doesn't look that nice. ;)

And I think I didn't make something wrong because in other languages, the tag does what it should.

[CThiessen]

Are there statistics with which language you can get most traffic?

Hi,
difficult to say.
English on Top (my Forum is German) in total numbers but interstig are:

Arabic
Hebrew
Korean
this are Languages were the people are usually speaking English very well and it might be more difficult to write Wep Pages in thees languages.
So my site is ranked very hight in Google, and if somebody don?t find what he is looking for, on my page, maybe he find something in the Ad?s. :o

And it look like that Google compare that with the other Content of the site.
I do have twice more indexed pages for Portuguese than for other languages.
My site is about Brazil an i ever had some pages and and Post in Portuguese without translation.

Christian

[Kolbi]

Hi,
difficult to say.
English on Top (my Forum is German) in total numbers but interstig are:

Arabic
Hebrew
Korean
this are Languages were the people are usually speaking English very well and it might be more difficult to write Wep Pages in thees languages.

I have a German board as well.
Are there languages you never got any traffic?
If you think about percentages of traffic from these languages, how high are they?

[imported_silkroad]

At this moment I have information straight from Google that "Powered by Google" should include the logo and I will fit it in default configuration.

Hahahaha. No you don't !! (Sorry, I have been out with friends eating Italian food and drinking nice wine !! )

The email you provided does not say "include logo" and the TOS does not say include logo. It is not necessary to make people afraid over something very small! Be factual !! Also, sorry to tell you, is not necessary to be a "lawyer" as you said, to understand the Google TOS. The TOS is very clear. No logo is required. This is easy to see. What is NOT clear is your email, which says things about the Google TOS that are not in the TOS nor in Google's email you posted.

Protecting people is not the same as spreading "fear, uncertainty, and doubt" .. as I said. Be factual. Post facts. There are no secrets about the Google TOS.

AND, regarding one user being "blocked' .... we have no exact reason they were blocked. There are many reasons that Google can block a user, and without posting the exact reason, you need to be careful not to simple give misinformation, fear, uncertainty and doubt, without facts that do not match the TOS. Hahahaha. Where is the exact reason?? It certainly was not because of a logo or "Powered by Google" .. the forum you are talking about must have done something else seriously wrong !

So far, we have read nothing from the Google TOS or from your email (posting from the forum) that confirms the each reason one of your users was blocked. Maybe they broken many other TOS? Maybe they did many things wrong. It has nothing to do with logos, etc. It is not necessary to go beyond the Google TOS. Google does not block good forums doing "good things"..... Google's philosophy is "Do No Harm"...

Please post the exact reason one user was blocked, according to Google.

Anyway, you say you are "protecting people" but that means you must also be precise, factual and actual about the Google TOS. Posting emotional fear, uncertainty and doubt is not good for anyone.

So far, there are very little fact here....

Anyway, nevermind... if you want to be the mother goose of users and spread fear without fact, that is your right. I hope you will be more accurate about these things. The Google TOS did not change. The fact are not clear why your user forum was blocked. The email you posted said nothing new or unknown.

[NLP-er]

Which languages do you prefer?
Are there statistics with which language you can get most traffic?

In fact such statistics exists - those are statistics about which languages are most used on the word. I'm using all flags, but some users already wrote about most user languages. So maybe someone will help in this area.

I'm not sure, but as I remember you can find it in wikipedia. If I'm wrong please someone correct me :)

[NLP-er]

Not yet, sorry:o

Your tag <!--START vBET NOT TRANSLATED AREA--> and <!--END vBET NOT TRANSLATED AREA-->, works fine for every language expcept the home language.
There, the tag is completely shown on browser title.
I just recognized it after my last post and removed it cause it doesn't look that nice. ;)

And I think I didn't make something wrong because in other languages, the tag does what it should.

I could add possibility to clean not translated area in normal pages, but it will have impact on performance. In most places comments are not visible, so it doesn't metter, but it it is inside of tag attribute, then it is considered as value not as comment and it is shown.

But you still can handle this :D It is enough to add simple condition in your template (note that this is necessary ONLY inside of attributes - in other places it is just not shown by browser):

<if condition="$_GET['language]"><!--START vBET NOT TRANSLATED AREA--></if>
TEXT WHICH SHOULDN'T BE TRANSLATED AND IS INSIDE OF SOME TAG ATTRIBUTE
<if condition="$_GET['language]"><!--END vBET NOT TRANSLATED AREA--></if>


This way it will not be added for your default language :)

[NLP-er]

Hahahaha. No you don't !! (Sorry, I have been out with friends eating Italian food and drinking nice wine !! )

The email you provided does not say "include logo" and the TOS does not say include logo. It is not necessary to make people afraid over something very small! Be factual !! Also, sorry to tell you, is not necessary to be a "lawyer" as you said, to understand the Google TOS. The TOS is very clear. No logo is required. This is easy to see. What is NOT clear is your email, which says things about the Google TOS that are not in the TOS nor in Google's email you posted.

Protecting people is not the same as spreading "fear, uncertainty, and doubt" .. as I said. Be factual. Post facts. There are no secrets about the Google TOS.

AND, regarding one user being "blocked' .... we have no exact reason they were blocked. There are many reasons that Google can block a user, and without posting the exact reason, you need to be careful not to simple give misinformation, fear, uncertainty and doubt, without facts that do not match the TOS. Hahahaha. Where is the exact reason?? It certainly was not because of a logo or "Powered by Google" .. the forum you are talking about must have done something else seriously wrong !

So far, we have read nothing from the Google TOS or from your email (posting from the forum) that confirms the each reason one of your users was blocked. Maybe they broken many other TOS? Maybe they did many things wrong. It has nothing to do with logos, etc. It is not necessary to go beyond the Google TOS. Google does not block good forums doing "good things"..... Google's philosophy is "Do No Harm"...

Please post the exact reason one user was blocked, according to Google.

Anyway, you say you are "protecting people" but that means you must also be precise, factual and actual about the Google TOS. Posting emotional fear, uncertainty and doubt is not good for anyone.

So far, there are very little fact here....

Anyway, nevermind... if you want to be the mother goose of users and spread fear without fact, that is your right. I hope you will be more accurate about these things. The Google TOS did not change. The fact are not clear why your user forum was blocked. The email you posted said nothing new or unknown.

In my opinion you choose to ignore all quotes which I gave you directly form Google pages. So to remind you:
http://code.google.com/intl/pl-PL/apis/ajaxsearch/documentation/reference.html#_intro_fonje
"Applications MUST always include a valid and accurate http referer header in their requests."

http://code.google.com/intl/pl-PL/apis/ajaxlanguage/documentation/#Branding
"it is important to communicate the Google brand to your users"
And it appears to be important enough to get info from google about this:
I appreciated that you've included a note at the bottom that translations are powered by Google, but you should also include "Powered by Google" branding on every page that includes translations from the API
The men gave the link to branding description. And as you can see on page about branding there is link which shows how looks branding from the API - it shows Google logo. And if you read carefully what the man said - on page WAS INCLUDED "Powered By Google" string, but it appears not enough and the men told that there should be "Powered by Google" BRANDING - which is described under the link and which shows Google logo.

So there is no information which I gave and has no coverage in reality. In fact - the reality triggers it. And the reality is that one page was banned/blocked. And as you wrote we do not know exact reason of banning/bocking, but we know that ALL things which I described was considered relevant during unbanning/unblocking procedure so each one of those could be also an reason and if not - still was necessary for unbanning/unblocking.

I understand that you would made other choices with your users. I made my and I'm strongly convinced that it is really good choice - to give my users best solution as fast as possible which will remove from theme banning/blocking threat.

You have full right to think whatever you want about it and also to give your suggestions for future which are appreciated.
Still if you ask questions, then please accept answers, especially when answers are straight from Google, instead of ignoring those and repeat over and over that there was no reason. I understand that you could see no reason, but You was asking about my reasons of my actions and those where already given to you. I see nothing more to tell in this topic. All sources you have included. There is no more.

Great thanks for your advices - I really appreciate it as those come from man who has lot of experience in this area. I totally agree that making people feel fear is not good, but I (I I I) saw real threat here and made MY actions to make my users rally feel safe with new release. I hope that thanks that users can trust to this product as one which takes care about them.

Thanks and enjoy :)

[Kolbi]

In fact such statistics exists - those are statistics about which languages are most used on the word. I'm using all flags, but some users already wrote about most user languages. So maybe someone will help in this area.

I'm not sure, but as I remember you can find it in wikipedia. If I'm wrong please someone correct me :)
I wouldn?t find a statistic :)

Perhaps someone can provide one?
Because I?m thinking about purchasing the full version this month.

[isatice]

works like a charm
is there any possibility to add different kinda advertisements for different language pages ?

[Audax666]

Against all critics, first class support! :up:
I'll try what you adviced.

Sorry to bother, but I got something else. :o
I got the SEO URLs activated and navigation through my forum works fine, no problems.
But on forumhome, when I'm not using my home language (german), the flags (language links) look like this:
(choosen language english)
spanish: mysite.de/es/?language=en
french: mysite.de/fr/?language=en
back to german: mysite.de/?language=en

So I can't change a language on forumhome.
Within the threads and forumdisplay, also no problems.

Is this my misconfiguration or a bug?

[isatice]

let me rephrase myself
is there any IF-CONDITIONS to specify a particular content or image to be shown on a specific language only

[askeroglu]

I think, It is not working on VBSuite Beta3 ?

[imported_silkroad]

Hey NLP-er!

Does your mod with the new vBSEO 3.2.0 and 3.3.x security patch just released?

http://www.vbseo.com/f5/vbseo-security-bulletin-vbseo-3-3-2-released-38487/

[NLP-er]

works like a charm
is there any possibility to add different kinda advertisements for different language pages ?

Just use AdSense and it will take care about it ;)

[NLP-er]

Against all critics, first class support! :up:
I'll try what you adviced.

Sorry to bother, but I got something else. :o
I got the SEO URLs activated and navigation through my forum works fine, no problems.
But on forumhome, when I'm not using my home language (german), the flags (language links) look like this:
(choosen language english)
spanish: mysite.de/es/?language=en
french: mysite.de/fr/?language=en
back to german: mysite.de/?language=en

So I can't change a language on forumhome.
Within the threads and forumdisplay, also no problems.

Is this my misconfiguration or a bug?

First time see something like this. Please PM me your configuration details and URL to tour forum I want to see it live :)
Also it looks a bit like it is hardcoded ?language=en in flag - did you made changes in flags templates?

[NLP-er]

I wouldn?t find a statistic :)

Perhaps someone can provide one?
Because I?m thinking about purchasing the full version this month.

First Google result to most popular languages: http://geography.about.com/od/culturalgeography/a/10languages.htm

1. Mandarin Chinese - 882 million
2. Spanish - 325 million
3. English - 312-380 million
4. Arabic - 206-422 million
5. Hindi - 181 million
6. Portuguese - 178 million
7. Bengali - 173 million
8. Russian - 146 million
9. Japanese - 128 million
10. German - 96 million

Also I start feeling like I should learn Chinese in school instead of English... HAHAHA :D

[NLP-er]

let me rephrase myself
is there any IF-CONDITIONS to specify a particular content or image to be shown on a specific language only

If you want some part of page not be translated you can use not translated area - see details in features list in mod description :)

[NLP-er]

I think, It is not working on VBSuite Beta3 ?

Have no idea. Can you give me link to mod and link to your forum where this mod is in action? Also in short words - what this mod do?

[NLP-er]

Hey NLP-er!

Does your mod with the new vBSEO 3.2.0 and 3.3.x security patch just released?

http://www.vbseo.com/f5/vbseo-security-bulletin-vbseo-3-3-2-released-38487/

Didn't update vBSEO yet. I will tell after that :) Maybe somebody already knows?

[linuxututs]

Thanks for the Update NLP-er,
Can you tell me the hook that calls the images above the navbar ?

I have photoplog Pro install on my site (http://www.linuxtuts.net/photoplog/)and translation bar isn't showing.

Thanks a million 1 Mate,

[imported_silkroad]

First Google result to most popular languages: http://geography.about.com/od/culturalgeography/a/10languages.htm

1. Mandarin Chinese - 882 million
2. Spanish - 325 million
3. English - 312-380 million
4. Arabic - 206-422 million
5. Hindi - 181 million
6. Portuguese - 178 million
7. Bengali - 173 million
8. Russian - 146 million
9. Japanese - 128 million
10. German - 96 million

Also I start feeling like I should learn Chinese in school instead of English... HAHAHA :D

Most ad networks do not serve ads to China and the ones that do (like Goggle) , play very little .. only a tiny amount. I have highlighted this above. Red means very little ad revenue. Yellow means very low paying CPM rates. Green means primary top ad revenue.

[NLP-er]

Thanks for the Update NLP-er,
Can you tell me the hook that calls the images above the navbar ?

I have photoplog Pro install on my site (http://www.linuxtuts.net/photoplog/)and translation bar isn't showing.

Thanks a million 1 Mate,

Flags are created in global_start hook. So if photoplog is using global.php those should be created, and it photoplog is using some different templates, then you can use $vbenterprisetranslatorflags in template which is necessary. That assuming that global_start was called... Otherwise it will not be translated at all, because global_complete will also not included.

Also because it works in subdirectory if there are any relative paths you can have broken links during translation tracking for SEO type, but I was checking and it looks that /photolog is added so should be no issues.

Please inform me about results :)

[NLP-er]

Most ad networks do not serve ads to China and the ones that do (like Goggle) , play very little .. only a tiny amount. I have highlighted this above. Red means very little ad revenue. Yellow means very low paying CPM rates. Green means primary top ad revenue.

Can you add more green? :D

[Kolbi]

What do you say about vbseo warnings about using this mod because of breaking link census?

[NLP-er]

What do you say about vbseo warnings about using this mod because of breaking link census?

Your information is wrong and it is disinformation.

You have old information about old translator. To there is NO vbseo warning about using THIS mod - it is about crappy one under this link (which is partially working on my stolen code - still waiting till administration do something with it):
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=226969

THIS mod has SEO links :) Just read features list and see live demo. Enjoy :):up:

[Kolbi]

Your information is wrong and it is disinformation.

You have old information about old translator. To there is NO vbseo warning about using THIS mod
Look: http://www.vbseo.com/f4/vb-enterprise-translator-mod-questions-36436/
and http://www.vbseo.com/f45/need-critique-my-community-36450/

[jaryx]

First Google result to most popular languages: http://geography.about.com/od/culturalgeography/a/10languages.htm

1. Mandarin Chinese - 882 million
2. Spanish - 325 million
3. English - 312-380 million
4. Arabic - 206-422 million
5. Hindi - 181 million
6. Portuguese - 178 million
7. Bengali - 173 million
8. Russian - 146 million
9. Japanese - 128 million
10. German - 96 million

Also I start feeling like I should learn Chinese in school instead of English... HAHAHA :D

It will be a more appropriate

INTERNET WORLD USERS BY LANGUAGE - Top 10 Languages (http://www.internetworldstats.com/stats7.htm)

[isatice]

Just use AdSense and it will take care about it ;)

lol , yep
but is there any chance to put adsense only for english , not shown on other language pages ?

[NLP-er]

For those who are interested in commercial version - vBET 3.2.0 was just released and new great feature was added - automatic message language detection. So when somebody is writing message in other language he do not have to remember about any settings - vBET will recognize real language of message and mark it appropriately :)

If, you are interested, just look here for details:
http://www.vbenterprisetranslator.com/forum/vbet-announcements/128-vbet-3-2-0-released.html#post410

[GTX2]

Well,

I'm using this just for a couple of days, and here is my results:

Sitemap 19 Nov 2009
Total Indexed URLs: 287802

Sitemap 22 Nov 2009
Total Indexed URLs: 2970999

My forum has now indexed 10 times more pages.
Lets see how google deals with it :)

cheers

[NLP-er]

Look: http://www.vbseo.com/f4/vb-enterprise-translator-mod-questions-36436/
and http://www.vbseo.com/f45/need-critique-my-community-36450/

In that case sorry:) I didn't saw this - I will take a look and answer.

[NLP-er]

Look: http://www.vbseo.com/f4/vb-enterprise-translator-mod-questions-36436/

For those who like to see my discussion with vBSEO staff just look under the link :)

In few words - they have only personal issue about Google translation quality and no business reason and in my opinion they are acting against good business of their clients.

There is one think which is real argue. They clearly point vBET 3.x as much better to use because vBET 2.x does not support URL translation, but thanks that we have vBET 3.x so anybody who really wants have everything perfect (+ others great features) can go for vBET 3.x :)

[NLP-er]

It will be a more appropriate

INTERNET WORLD USERS BY LANGUAGE - Top 10 Languages (http://www.internetworldstats.com/stats7.htm)

Really good stuff :)

[NLP-er]

lol , yep
but is there any chance to put adsense only for english , not shown on other language pages ?

Yes - simply edit your templates and add:

<if condition="!$_GET[language]">THIS WILL BE SHOWN ONLY ON NOT TRANSLATED PAGE</if>

(not tested - just put from hand)

But really I see no sense of avoiding of showing adsense for translated pages.

[NLP-er]

http://www.vbseo.com/f45/need-critique-my-community-36450/

And the second one - also for detail go there.

In few words - the man tolds weeeery stupid things. I don't know how someone who claims himself of being SEO expert doesn't understand that having content in different languages gives you more traffic.

As I wrote - details are there and here only one think to remind what is the TRUTH - I really cannot tell why vBSEO team is lying their own clients - if they are not lying it means that they have no idea about SEO and translations and in such case they shouldn't make official statements about "how it is" cause this is also a lie. But lucky me I have such great users as you who can show the true :):
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showpost.php?p=1890731&postcount=623

Also please note, that I show those results to some vBSEO stuff before. Make your own opinion about that...

[KrisP]

Google TOS states:

You will not, and will not permit your end users or other third parties to:

submit any request exceeding 5000 characters in length;
http://code.google.com/intl/da/apis/ajaxlanguage/terms.html

Seems many threads are more than 5000 characters in length - often 3 times as much ...

Looks like I have been blocked by Google and am trying to find out why. I have the Google logo in the bottom of the screen and have made sure cache is updated until now.

[imported_silkroad]

Google TOS states:

You will not, and will not permit your end users or other third parties to:


http://code.google.com/intl/da/apis/ajaxlanguage/terms.html

Seems many threads are more than 5000 characters in length - often 3 times as much ...

Looks like I have been blocked by Google and am trying to find out why. I have the Google logo in the bottom of the screen and have made sure cache is updated until now.

I don't think Google blocked you because of the length of a post. The software breaks the queries up into smaller chucks.

Just post the link to your website and we will attempt to tell you why you Google has blocked you.

Google's basic policy is "Do No Harm"....maybe your website has other problems?

[KrisP]

This is the testforum xxx - it is a fresh copy of the real forum (have temporarily disabled the mod on the real forum xxx).

[imported_silkroad]

And the second one - also for detail go there.

In few words - the man tolds weeeery stupid things. I don't know how someone who claims himself of being SEO expert doesn't understand that having content in different languages gives you more traffic.

As I wrote - details are there and here only one think to remind what is the TRUTH - I really cannot tell why vBSEO team is lying their own clients - if they are not lying it means that they have no idea about SEO and translations and in such case they shouldn't make official statements about "how it is" cause this is also a lie. But lucky me I have such great users as you who can show the true :):
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showpost.php?p=1890731&postcount=623

Also please note, that I show those results to some vBSEO stuff before. Make your own opinion about that...

I agree completely. I read that post and was really shocked by the complete falsehood (lie) posted by marco at vbSEO. His post was an utter and complete lie. In most civil courts in the world, he would be liable to you and your business for such a statement. He better be careful, because you have so many customers who can speak for you otherwise.

I know for a fact that translations are important for the world. Machine translations, while not perfect, bring people closer together. Translations help people all over the world find information they might not normally find. Translations are an absolute blessing. They are the future of the Internet.

Always remember... the purpose of machine language translations is not SEO. This is wrong. The purpose of machine translation is to make your unique content available to the world. You are not optimizing search engines, you are making more content available for global users.

If you use a machine language package with only SEO in mind, you are making a big mistake, IMHO. Translation is about making information available, not SEO. If you get more traffic because information is available in many languages (and you will !!), that is because you have unique content available for many users and languages globally.

Be Responsible and Be a Good Internet Citizen. Do No Harm.

[imported_silkroad]

This is the testforum www.thegameonline.dk - it is a fresh copy of the real forum (have temporarily disabled the mod on the real forum www.thegame-online.dk).

Thanks. Sorry, I can't read it since I can't read DK (Irony). Maybe you could enable EN translation so we can read the content? Or, I guess not, since it Google is not translation for you now?

Anyway, I did notice Google Adsense was serving PSA ads on your site. That is not good.

[KrisP]

You mean PSA on the mothersite? - yes, but thats only sporadically for new content. Most threads have real ads.

If you want an EN translation you can use this link: xxx

[imported_silkroad]

Your site content seems fine.

Are you serving pop-ups or pop-under ads or similar intrusive ads?

Also, I recommend caution regarding this:

Translations delivered by vB Enterprise Translator
.....

Automatic Translations (Powered by Google ):This is confusing to me. I am not sure Google would like this type of situation with their credit at the bottom and under a similar credit. It makes Google look so "small and not important" compared to a small provider.

Anyway, that is just my opinion.....

You need to ask Google directly and not guess. If you are serving pop ups or pop under ads, that will be a problem for Google, I think.

(Edit) PS: FWIW, better would be:


Automatic Translations Powered by Google

....

Forum Translation Software by vB Enterprise Translator

Also you need "Powered by Google" for translations near the content for every translated page. I recommend you put it at the top of each thread, not hidden at the bottom.

[KrisP]

I will move up the Google credentials to be on the safe side.

No popups - only adsense.

How do I get in contact with Google? I already posted at the Danish webmaster Google Help forum. I hope not they will ask me to post here: http://groups.google.com/group/google-translate because it seems Google representats arent answering peoples requests.

[NLP-er]

Google TOS states:

You will not, and will not permit your end users or other third parties to:


http://code.google.com/intl/da/apis/ajaxlanguage/terms.html

Seems many threads are more than 5000 characters in length - often 3 times as much ...

Looks like I have been blocked by Google and am trying to find out why. I have the Google logo in the bottom of the screen and have made sure cache is updated until now.

If you was blocked by Google it is not because of long messages. vBET has set $maxUrlLength = 1900; and it cuts long messages (smart algorithm - if exceeded then first will try to cud by whole sentences looking for dot, then by spaces and at the end just cut).

Please check what are Google responses in the way which I already described to you on vBET forum. Then we will know more, and hopefully we will solve this fast :)

[NLP-er]

I agree completely. I read that post and was really shocked by the complete falsehood (lie) posted by marco at vbSEO. His post was an utter and complete lie. In most civil courts in the world, he would be liable to you and your business for such a statement. He better be careful, because you have so many customers who can speak for you otherwise.

I know for a fact that translations are important for the world. Machine translations, while not perfect, bring people closer together. Translations help people all over the world find information they might not normally find. Translations are an absolute blessing. They are the future of the Internet.

Always remember... the purpose of machine language translations is not SEO. This is wrong. The purpose of machine translation is to make your unique content available to the world. You are not optimizing search engines, you are making more content available for global users.

If you use a machine language package with only SEO in mind, you are making a big mistake, IMHO. Translation is about making information available, not SEO. If you get more traffic because information is available in many languages (and you will !!), that is because you have unique content available for many users and languages globally.

Be Responsible and Be a Good Internet Citizen. Do No Harm.

Thank you for your words. Especially I like the part about thankful users who know how it really looks and can speak in my name. I would really be glad if you support me in vBSEO discussion with your opinion :)

Edited
You will not get a chance for this - they closed booth threads...

[NLP-er]

Hi all. I suddenly feel great motivation to make vBET compatible with such products like:
- zoints SEO (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=202739, https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=127336)
- clogic SEO (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=217309)
- TfSEO 2 (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=173738)

And I'm talking here about free version. So if someone is using any of this SEO products and want to be able to use vBET 2.x on his forum I just need some test environment. If you will to set such test forum with installed SEO product just PM me details and I will take my best to give you possiblility of using vBET 2.x with SEO links with this products :)

[imported_silkroad]

Thank you for your words. Especially I like the part about thankful users who know how it really looks and can speak in my name. I would really be glad if you support me in vBSEO discussion with your opinion :)

Edited
You will not get a chance for this - they closed both threads...

Yes, they should be ashamed of themselves. I think you will see a blog post on this topic soon, and you can point people to that blog article. When I see that article, I will let you know ...

[isatice]

Yes - simply edit your templates and add:

<if condition="!$_GET[language]">THIS WILL BE SHOWN ONLY ON NOT TRANSLATED PAGE</if>

(not tested - just put from hand)

But really I see no sense of avoiding of showing adsense for translated pages.
wow ur the best , works amazing
actually it's because in my forum main language is not English and it's against Google adsense rules to put ads
but now i can put ads in my English pages with ur great addon

voted for MOTM

[NLP-er]

Hi all. I suddenly feel great motivation to make vBET compatible with such products like:
- zoints SEO (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=202739, https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=127336)
- clogic SEO (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=217309)
- TfSEO 2 (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=173738)

And I'm talking here about free version. So if someone is using any of this SEO products and want to be able to use vBET 2.x on his forum I just need some test environment. If you will to set such test forum with installed SEO product just PM me details and I will take my best to give you possiblility of using vBET 2.x with SEO links with this products :)

OK I made little investigation and all those SEO mods have similar way of working. I checked on paid version, so it is not officially confirmed, but it should work (please confirm if you use it)...

So everything what you need to be able to use vBET 2.x SEO translation links with your SEO engine is add this 2 rules BEFORE all rules for seo mod:

RewriteRule ^/?(af|sq|ar|be|bg|ca|zh-CN|hr|cs|da|nl|en|et|tl|fi|fr|gl|de|el|iw|hi|hu|is |id|ga|it|ja|ko|lv|lt|mk|ms|mt|no|fa|pl|pt|ro|ru|s r|sk|sl|es|sw|sv|zh-TW|th|tr|uk|vi|sq|ca|et|tl|gl|hi|id|lv|lt|mt|sl|uk |vi|cy|yi)/$ index.php?language=$1 [QSA]
RewriteRule ^/?(af|sq|ar|be|bg|ca|zh-CN|hr|cs|da|nl|en|et|tl|fi|fr|gl|de|el|iw|hi|hu|is |id|ga|it|ja|ko|lv|lt|mk|ms|mt|no|fa|pl|pt|ro|ru|s r|sk|sl|es|sw|sv|zh-TW|th|tr|uk|vi|sq|ca|et|tl|gl|hi|id|lv|lt|mt|sl|uk |vi|cy|yi)/(.*)?$ $2?language=$1 [QSA]


And of course set vBET SEO links on ;)

I would really happy make it official statement and write it in FAQ, so really - if you appreciate this free product and you make it working with one of mentioned SEO products (or have issues) - please write about it :)

[NLP-er]

Yes, they should be ashamed of themselves. I think you will see a blog post on this topic soon, and you can point people to that blog article. When I see that article, I will let you know ...

Thanks :):up:

[NLP-er]

wow ur the best , works amazing
actually it's because in my forum main language is not English and it's against Google adsense rules to put ads
but now i can put ads in my English pages with ur great addon

Can you please tell me more about this AdSense rule? I'm surprised to hear something like that and would like to check it.

[isatice]

Can you please tell me more about this AdSense rule? I'm surprised to hear something like that and would like to check it.


here it is : What languages does AdSense support? (https://www.google.com/adsense/support/bin/answer.py?answer=9727)

there are only a few languages supported by google adsense , otherwise google will close the publisher's account

[imported_silkroad]

here it is : What languages does AdSense support? (https://www.google.com/adsense/support/bin/answer.py?answer=9727)

there are only a few languages supported by google adsense , otherwise google will close the publisher's account

That is not (edit: completely) true. Google's policy states:

Please also be aware that placing the AdSense code on pages with content primarily in an unsupported language is not permittedAnd there are certainly more than a few languages supported as both primary and secondary languages:


Arabic French Polish Bulgarian German Portuguese Chinese (simplified) Greek Romanian Chinese (traditional) Hebrew Russian Croatian Hungarian Serbian Czech Italian Slovak Danish Japanese Spanish Dutch Korean Swedish English Latvian Thai Finnish Lithuanian Turkish Norwegian Ukranian

[KrisP]

Response from Google:

You were sending a high volume of traffic to the Language API which looks like it may be abuse or the result of a programming error. Because you failed to identify yourself with an (optional) API key or by correctly setting your HTTP referer (as required by the Terms of Use), we were unable to contact you about this traffic.

I urge you to take a look at our Terms of Use:
http://code.google.com/apis/ajaxlanguage/terms.html

Please pay particular attention to the sections which require that every query be at the direct request of an end user and that the results must be shown to the user (unmodified). Also notice the requirements around identification.

I appreciate the fact that you are only caching results for <15 days. However, please note that it is in violation of the terms to refresh your cache automatically. Instead, you should wait until a specific translation is requested by an end user. When this happens, you can perform the request to the API, then temporarily cache the results (as you're currently doing) in addition to displaying them to the user who requested the translation.

Once you make that change to your system - as well as add the required identification - please provide me with the IP address of your server, and I'll be able to unblock your access to the API.

Seems from the response:

You cannot populate the cache beforehand - it must be the end user (or Googlebot) doing that.

[jaryx]

Yes - simply edit your templates and add:

<if condition="!$_GET[language]">THIS WILL BE SHOWN ONLY ON NOT TRANSLATED PAGE</if>



That is not (edit: completely) true. Google's policy states:

And there are certainly more than a few languages supported as both primary and secondary languages:

Arabic French Polish Bulgarian German Portuguese Chinese (simplified) Greek Romanian Chinese (traditional) Hebrew Russian Croatian Hungarian Serbian Czech Italian Slovak Danish Japanese Spanish Dutch Korean Swedish English Latvian Thai Finnish Lithuanian Turkish Norwegian Ukranian



What would be code for a specific language(s)?

For example, I would just turn off the Belarusian and Catalan?

[imported_silkroad]

Response from Google .....

Hi Kris,

Great job! Glad to see you back up again soon.

Google is fair.

OBTW, a long time ago (well, around 5 months ago), there was a member of these forums called T2x. He was the first person to insist that people need to add the referral header code and to use the Google API key. He also was the first person to crack the code on rewriting the URLs to get rid of the question mark in the query.

At the time, the guy who paid for the code for the first translation mod (whom NLP-er worked with to make the code actually and the database work properly) really ridiculed T2x for warning people to add the referral header to Google and to add the optional AJAX search API.

It turns out that T2x is the hero for all of us. He was the first to work out these issues. We have been running T2x's code for months and never had any problems because we have always had the referral headers, etc. We followed T2x completely because what he said corresponded directly with the Google TOS.

My public praise for T2x takes nothing away from NLP-er who has done a great job too, without a doubt.

However, I think it is important to remind everyone that it was fellow forum team member T2x that was the first person to work out all the Google TOS issues and provide the original code fixes.

Everyone here owes T2x and word of thanks, including me.

Thank you T2x!

You are 'da man! :up: :up: :up:

[imported_silkroad]

What would be code for a specific language(s)?

For example, I would just turn off the Belarusian and Catalan?

In NLP-er's code, all languages are configurable in the UserCP for this mod.

In addition, some people use 301 redirection if they have an issue with any language and want to redirect the traffic to that language.

[imported_silkroad]

Here are a few examples of Geotargeting by country and some examples with $_GET[language]. Requires Apache2, this plugin and Apache mod_geoip.

<if condition="in_array($_SERVER['GEOIP_COUNTRY_CODE'], array('US','UK','CA','GB','IN','AU','MY','SG','HK' ))">
<!-- Your CPM Ad Code Here -->
<else />
<!-- Your Adsense Ad Code Here -->
</if>

Here is another example (for postbit)

<if condition="(($post[postcount] % $vboptions[maxposts] == 1)) AND is_member_of($vbulletin->userinfo, 1,3,4,11,21)">
<if condition="in_array($_SERVER['GEOIP_COUNTRY_CODE'], array('UK','GB'))">
<div class="postbit_adcode">
<span style="float:right; margin: 0 0 30px 30px; width: 310px; height: 260px;">
<!-- Your CPM Ad Code for the UK Here) -->
</span>
</div>
</if>
<if condition="in_array($_SERVER['GEOIP_COUNTRY_CODE'], array('US','CA','IN','AU','MY','SG','HK'))">
<div class="postbit_adcode">
<span style="float:right; margin: 0 0 30px 30px; width: 310px; height: 260px;">
<!-- Your CPM Ad Code for the US, Canada, etc Here) -->
</span>
</div>
</if>
<if condition="!in_array($_SERVER['GEOIP_COUNTRY_CODE'], array('US','UK','CA','GB','IN','AU','MY','SG','HK' )) AND !$_GET[language]">
<div class="postbit_adcode">
<span style="float:right; margin: 0 0 30px 30px; width: 310px; height: 260px;">
<!-- Your Rest-of-the-World CPM Code in Your Standard Forum Language Here) -->
</span>
</div>
</if>
<if condition="!in_array($_SERVER['GEOIP_COUNTRY_CODE'], array('US','UK','CA','GB','IN','AU','MY','SG','HK' )) and $_GET[language] ">
<!-- Your World Adsense Ad Code for all your Translated Languages Here) -->
</if>
</if>

Enjoy.

[jaryx]

In NLP-er's code, all languages are configurable in the UserCP for this mod.

In addition, some people use 301 redirection if they have an issue with any language and want to redirect the traffic to that language.

I took a little bad.
I just want traffic from these countries and their languages, but do not want to display ads on pages in their languages.

Here are a few examples of Geotargeting by country and some examples with $_GET[language]. Requires Apache2, this plugin and Apache mod_geoip.

Here is another example (for postbit)
Enjoy.

Thank you. Dziękuję ;)
I'll check it.

[NLP-er]

here it is : What languages does AdSense support? (https://www.google.com/adsense/support/bin/answer.py?answer=9727)

there are only a few languages supported by google adsense , otherwise google will close the publisher's account

I see there that you can't use AdSense for not supported languages, but you can have site in many languages. So you can use AdSense for each language which is supported.

I'm going to TOS to learn more, but on this very page which you gave is written that AdSense will handle commercials language even if page is in many languages, so it means that it is allowed to have different languages.

[NLP-er]

That is not (edit: completely) true. Google's policy states:

And there are certainly more than a few languages supported as both primary and secondary languages:

I'm not sure do I understood it well, because of word "primarily", which translated to my language can have 2 different meanings. So is it used here as "originally" of as "mostly"?...

[NLP-er]

Response from Google:



Seems from the response:

You cannot populate the cache beforehand - it must be the end user (or Googlebot) doing that.

vBET is NOT pre-populating cache. It is populated as the requests comes. Send this information go Google staff and tell that they can review the code of free version to be sure about that (paid too, but after contact with me).

Also - we had here big discussion about headers ;)

All - referer header and API key are supported in newest versions of vBET (booth 2.x and 3.x). API key you can set in options and referer headers are send automatically each time when request is coming to Google (in vBET 3.x even for automatic language detection).

So just made vBET update, set your key and send them message that you fit all TOS. Google likes to give access back, when everything is OK :)

[NLP-er]

What would be code for a specific language(s)?

For example, I would just turn off the Belarusian and Catalan?

Here you will find all supported by vBET codes and languages for those. Just change condition in code I gave you before.

return array ("af"=>"Afrikaans","sq"=>"Albanian","ar"=>"Arabic",
"be"=>"Belarusian","bg"=>"Bulgarian","ca"=>"Catalan","zh-CN"=>"Chinese",
"hr"=>"Croatian","cs"=>"Czech","da"=>"Danish","nl"=>"Dutch",
"en"=>"English","et"=>"Estonian","tl"=>"Filipino","fi"=>"Finnish",
"fr"=>"French","gl"=>"Galician","de"=>"German","el"=>"Greek",
"iw"=>"Hebrew","hi"=>"Hindi","hu"=>"Hungarian","is"=>"Icelandic",
"id"=>"Indonesian","ga"=>"Irish","it"=>"Italian","ja"=>"Japanese",
"ko"=>"Korean","lv"=>"Latvian","lt"=>"Lithuanian","mk"=>"Macedonian",
"ms"=>"Malay","mt"=>"Maltese","no"=>"Norwegian", "fa" => "Persian",
"pl"=>"Polish","pt"=>"Portuguese","ro"=>"Romanian","ru"=>"Russian",
"sr"=>"Serbian","sk"=>"Slovak","sl"=>"Slovenian","es"=>"Spanish",
"sw"=>"Swahili","sv"=>"Swedish","zh-TW"=>"Taiwanese","th"=>"Thai",
"tr"=>"Turkish","uk"=>"Ukrainian","vi"=>"Vietnamese","cy"=>"Welsh",
"yi"=>"Yiddish");

[imported_silkroad]

I'm not sure do I understood it well, because of word "primarily", which translated to my language can have 2 different meanings. So is it used here as "originally" of as "mostly"?...

I think, in this case, "primarily" means "your original language", not translated.

But, only Google really know what they mean ! :D

[imported_silkroad]

AdSense will handle commercials language even if page is in many languages, so it means that it is allowed to have different languages.

Yes, that's right.

If you use Google Analytics and integrate it with Google Adsense, there is a section which breaks down Adsense revenue by language in GA.

So, it is easy to see that Google supports multiple language per site.

I strongly recommend every person who runs this mod run Google Analytics.

(This is the second time I have made this recommendation, BTW).

If you use GA, you will easily see what Google supports regarding languages ;)

AND, you can see almost exactly the eCPM and CTR of each language on your site ;)

Don't worry. Be happy :D

[NLP-er]

Hi Kris,

Great job! Glad to see you back up again soon.

Google is fair.

OBTW, a long time ago (well, around 5 months ago), there was a member of these forums called T2x. He was the first person to insist that people need to add the referral header code and to use the Google API key. He also was the first person to crack the code on rewriting the URLs to get rid of the question mark in the query.

At the time, the guy who paid for the code for the first translation mod (whom NLP-er worked with to make the code actually and the database work properly) really ridiculed T2x for warning people to add the referral header to Google and to add the optional AJAX search API.

It turns out that T2x is the hero for all of us. He was the first to work out these issues. We have been running T2x's code for months and never had any problems because we have always had the referral headers, etc. We followed T2x completely because what he said corresponded directly with the Google TOS.

My public praise for T2x takes nothing away from NLP-er who has done a great job too, without a doubt.

However, I think it is important to remind everyone that it was fellow forum team member T2x that was the first person to work out all the Google TOS issues and provide the original code fixes.

Everyone here owes T2x and word of thanks, including me.

Thank you T2x!

You are 'da man! :up: :up: :up:

I do not remember T2x making automatic cache clearing ;)

[Kolbi]

Yes, that's right.

If you use Google Analytics and integrate it with Google Adsense, there is a section which breaks down Adsense revenue by language in GA.

So, it is easy to see that Google supports multiple language per site.

I strongly recommend every person who runs this mod run Google Analytics.

(This is the second time I have made this recommendation, BTW).

If you use GA, you will easily see what Google supports regarding languages ;)

AND, you can see almost exactly the eCPM and CTR of each language on your site ;)

Don't worry. Be happy :D

Can you tell me how to use analytics as good as possible?

[imported_silkroad]

I do not remember T2x making automatic cache clearing ;)

You are right. As I recalll, T2x uses manual cache clearing or automates cache clearing using a MySQL script.

However, T2x did work out the Header Referrals and the vBSEO Link Consensus code. In fact, one of the reasons I was arguing with you about a "new requirement" to add referral headers to the code is that I already have it since July from T2x and forgot about it. That was way I did not think it was important, because I forgot we installed T2x's AJAX API and Referral Header code in July for translations.

[KrisP]

How much new content is too much?

I am wondering if Googlebot might flag if a sites content (number of pages) after growing slowly for years suddenly grows 10 times over night.

If it might be an idea to add one language at a time over a longer time period instead of over night?

[imported_silkroad]

How much new content is too much?

I don't think it matters very much. There is nothing in the Google TOS that says "sites much grow very slowly or else!"

I am wondering if Googlebot might flag if a sites content (number of pages) after growing slowly for years suddenly grows 10 times over night.

There is nothing in the Google TOS that says "sites much less than 10 times overnight.

If it might be an idea to add one language at a time over a longer time period instead of over night?

Not really, but you can do as you like.

I suggest to you that you should only add languages from countries with a large number of Internet users first to optimize your traffic.

Also, if you are looking for revenue as a ad publisher, you should focus on countries and languages with a high income per person where languages are supported by the various ad networks.

Most ad networks do not support any language other than English. Google Adsense is the exception as they support over 30 languages, which is really amazing. So, look at the supported languages, look at the statistics for Internet usage by country and language, and look at the economics of that country if you are interesting in publishing revenue.

Hint: Adding many languages from poor countries with small Internet usage at the same time you are adding countries and languages like Sweden, Finland, Norway, Denmark is not a good idea if you are seeking revenue as a publisher.

[KrisP]

What do you think of the argument that a large language (like en) has more users as you say but has also more pages in that language and therefore more competition in search results. So there is an opposite effect this way. A smaller language has fewer users but also less competition in search results.

[imported_silkroad]

Can you tell me how to use analytics as good as possible?

Are you running Google Analytics now?

[imported_silkroad]

What do you think of the argument that a large language (like en) has more users as you say but has also more pages in that language and therefore more competition in search results. So there is an opposite effect this way. A smaller language has fewer users but also less competition in search results.

Creating and publishing content on the web is no different than creating and publishing content like books. Most publishers publish to larger markets. They are also niche publishers that publish to smaller audiences.

Books are generally published in languages where there are a lot a readers and translated based on the same logic. Publishers do not translate a book to an obscure language thinking that someone will go to Amazon and maybe have an advantage because they are one of the few publishers in that market. Publishing takes both time and money.

On the other hand, you are free to try any obscure, niche publishing strategy that your heart desires and you think is fun, profitable or interesting.

I am telling you some facts, not theory:


Almost all major CPM ad networks only serve ads in English (very small percentage in "other than English")
Almost all CPM ad networks focus on serving ads to rich, modern, developed nations.
Most all ad revenue is from the English language. This is the top tier of languages.
Second tier, for global Internet publishing are (in no particular order): French, German, Spanish, Portuguese, Japanese, etc.
Advanced countries in Europe, like Sweden, Norway, the Netherlands, etc have good CPM rates, some higher than in English, but the number of impressions is small compared to English, so English is where the big publishing money is.


You can easily find this information out on the Internet.

In my opinion, your strategy of targeting obscure languages for SEO or search advantage is interesting, but I would never do it. If you want to do it, go ahead that is your decision.

Also, I don't want to get into a discussion on "which language is better, nicer, more traditional, etc."... I am only replying as to "where the money is" for Internet publishers. The money is in modern large countries with big economics, a high standard of living, large number of educated, technical users, with a high percentage of Internet users.

As for you, you can try any strategy and if it does not work, you can change it later.

[KrisP]

Well, I included swedish and norwegian because these languages are very similar to Danish so the quality of translation is good, which would generate more hits. But besides that I see your point.

So your top ten list (in no particular order) is: English, French, German, Spanish, Portuguese, Japanese and ... ?

Also with regards to the optimum number of languages to start with. Question is if the absolute number of urls beeing indexed are based on a percentage of total number of urls - if this is the case then you might as well choose to show all adsense languages to begin with?

[KrisP]

Seen in the light that it is a violation of Google TOS to create cache artificially beforehand - so uncached pages with many posts will load slowley - would it in any way be possible to load the page post by post - so the first post is shown fast - and then the following posts will be loaded one at a time on the page - so you dont loose users who dont want to wait 5-10 seconds for the whole page to load.

[KrisP]

This is a much better way to do this.
I have a script that copies the vbseo_sitemaps and generates sitemaps for about 15 languages, moves them to their own subdirectories (one for each language) and then pings google after each one is updated.


Sounds like a very good idea indeed. Any chance you would share this script with the rest of us?

[imported_silkroad]

if this is the case then you might as well choose to show all adsense languages to begin with?

Not us. We never show all language flags. It is suboptimal to have GoogleBot indexing links with little traffic benefit or upside.

I never recommend to anyone to enable all languages on any forum large or small.

Having said that, few people follow my advice. They simply load all the flags without regard to traffic patterns in the Internet.

Keep in mind also that there is a maximum number of links that GoogleBot will index. I have no idea how Google determines what the ceiling is, but I can tell you that the longer you index, the slower the progress is.

For this reason alone, you should index the high priority languages first (expose those flags and create site maps). It is a major mistake to simply expose languages without a plan. Make a plan ! Use Google Analytics to ANALYZE your site performance. Use Google Webmaster tools to optimize your sitemaps.

Review this link and others (you don't need to ask every question here.. do your own homework !)

Top Ten Internet Languages - World Internet Statistics (http://www.internetworldstats.com/stats7.htm)

[imported_silkroad]

Sounds like a very good idea indeed. Any chance you would share this script with the rest of us?

Not really..... I have already described the steps to create your own script in this thread. See below....

Please try to write one yourself ( it is really easy ... !! )

If you can't write a Linux/Unix script, go visit www.unix.com (http://www.unix.com) and learn :-) You can ask about scripting there and there are many people to help you.

[imported_silkroad]

Here is my prior instructions for writing a script for sitemaps / language:

I do not recommend people use the shared mod for the vBSEO sitemap generator for the following reasons:

The mod "interweaves" the language links (link.html?language=flag) in a serial manner, so when you work with Google sitemaps, you have no idea how much of the translated pages have been indexed in your sitemaps.

This is OK, and you can certainly do this "kludge" if you wish, if you are not comfy with a little manual labor and command line performance :D

If you want more control over your sitemaps (so you can submit Chinese language sitemaps to China, etc. and also watch the indexing process of each language) then I advise you to do something like this (what we do and it works great!):

(1) Copy the vBSEO sitemap files to another directory, for example for Korean, you could create a /sitemaps/ko directory and copy all the sitemaps from the ./vbseo_sitemaps/data directory over there.

(2) Unzip all the files with gzip -d.

(2) Edit the index file, sitemap_index.xml and put the path to the directory where you have the specific language sitemaps. You can do this with vi, for example, in 2 seconds, or sed in about the same time or less.

(3) Use sed to append ?language=flag, for example ?language=ko (for Korean) at the end of your loc files, for example </loc> tag, sed to ?language=ko</loc> This takes about 3 - 5 seconds on a big site with a 400K links in the sitemap. ( Update: You can also use sed to add SEO optimized tags in the URL, i.e. www.yoursite.com/ko/link_to_your_favorite_thread.html ')

(4) gzip the files.

(5) Manually add the sitemap -- sitemap/ko/sitemap_index.xml.gz (in the example above) to your favorite search engine webmaster dashboard :D

Well, you don't have to follow our advice, but that is how we do it, and we like it much better than the "interwoven, giant, humongous sitemap" method hack provided so far.

You certainly can do it that way, if you have a small site and don't actively manage your sitemaps. Or you can do it that way if you don't care :p

However, if you want to observe / manage the actual progress of how your various languages are indexed, I recommend you make a sitemap_index.xml.gz for each language, as outlined above. It takes only about 15 - 30 seconds max for each sitemap, so if you use only the top 10 Internet-languages like we do, then it only takes a few minutes, between 5 and 10 minutes manual labor.

Then again, you can use any method you like :D

I am simply sharing how we do it, and it works great. We tried "the other way" and found it "unmanagable" for a site with over 400K links in the origin language sitemap. It take a while for Google to index a large sitemap anyway, so we recommend you focus on the top 10 Internet-languages for maximum benefit :up:

Cheers!

Note, this is really easy to do! Please try on your own and don't make one huge sitemap for all your languages !!

[jaryx]

Americans. They are so wonderful... and are such ignorant. :P

Tell me guys, why English version answer "What languages does AdSense support?" is different than the version for other languages? :O

In English version we see:
Arabic Bulgarian Chinese (simplified) Chinese (traditional) Croatian Czech Danish Dutch English Finnish French German Greek Hebrew Hungarian Italian Japanese Korean Latvian Lithuanian Norwegian Polish Portuguese Romanian Russian Serbian Slovak Spanish Swedish Thai Turkish Ukranian

In other languages (PL,DE,ES,FR,RU) we see:
Arabic Bulgarian Catalan Chinese (simplified) Chinese (traditional) Croatian Czech Danish Dutch English Finnish French German Greek Hebrew Hungarian Italian Japanese Korean Latvian Lithuanian Norwegian Polish Portuguese Romanian Russian Serbian Slovak Spanish Swedish Thai Turkish

Catalonia = Ukraine ?

Even american Big G does not know that these two old (much older than the U.S.) and the beautiful countries are located at opposite ends of Europe?

Which of these answers is true? Written once in English, or written several times in other languages? ;)

[imported_silkroad]

Americans. They are so wonderful... and are such ignorant. :P

Don't bring politics and insults into this forum.

If you have a question about Google on these topics, ask Google. Don't post this type of useless insulting other countries here.

Post something useful.

Thanks.

[Kolbi]

There?an issue if you try register on a translated page.
It alway says that I haven?t:
Since you have decided not to accept the Terms of Use, you can not continue with registration.

Go to the Forum Home or click Back on your browser's' if you still want to accept the terms of use.

???

[jaryx]

That is not (edit: completely) true. Google's policy states:

And there are certainly more than a few languages supported as both primary and secondary languages:

Don't bring politics and insults into this forum.

If you have a question about Google on these topics, ask Google. Don't post this type of useless insulting other countries here.

Post something useful.

Thanks.

In principle, this question was directed to you. That you posted about the rules of Adsense, so I think I had a right to think that you are a specialist in this topic, right?

Do not know the answer? Ok, no problem. I ask the great G.

ps.
"Sarcasm. The lowest form of humor but the highest form of wit" - Oscar Wilde (Irish poet)

Relax. I am not a politician. You are also awesome too. :D

[NLP-er]

How much new content is too much?

I am wondering if Googlebot might flag if a sites content (number of pages) after growing slowly for years suddenly grows 10 times over night.

If it might be an idea to add one language at a time over a longer time period instead of over night?

Some do it this way, some uses all 52 languages from the begging. There was no person which claims about any penalty for such content improvement. Still I cannot guarantee Google behavior. I made on my forum all languages available and everything is fine.

Still not every forum was able to handle all the new traffic to translated pages, so some forums make available less languages because of this reason.

[NLP-er]

Seen in the light that it is a violation of Google TOS to create cache artificially beforehand - so uncached pages with many posts will load slowley - would it in any way be possible to load the page post by post - so the first post is shown fast - and then the following posts will be loaded one at a time on the page - so you dont loose users who dont want to wait 5-10 seconds for the whole page to load.

Check in vB option for number of posts on one page.

[NLP-er]

Hi all :)

At this moment I have already corrected only bug on my list (for links with language= and #). I'm holding new release right now waiting till somebody confirms that vBET 2.x in option SEO links, is working fine with Zoints SEO, Clogic SEO and TfSEO 2.

After that - release is coming and I'm ready to update vBET 2.x for vBulletin 4 :)

But first things first - people was asking for each of this SEO engines, so give me feedback please :) Required .htaccess rules you will find in FAQ (first post).

[Paul M]

Catalonia = Ukraine ?Catalonia is an area of Spain (North East roughly).

[imported_silkroad]

In principle, this question was directed to you. That you posted about the rules of Adsense, so I think I had a right to think that you are a specialist in this topic, right?

Do not know the answer? Ok, no problem. I ask the great G.

ps.
"Sarcasm. The lowest form of humor but the highest form of wit" - Oscar Wilde (Irish poet)

Relax. I am not a politician. You are also awesome too. :D

OK! Great to hear!

But if you want to know why Google has one list on one English web site, and another list on a non-English web site, ask Google! I would expect a global organization that does business in such a large number of countries to have inconsistent web pages. It is hard to manage a single forum!

Discuss these trivial things with Google, please. THANKS!

[KrisP]

Check in vB option for number of posts on one page.

It would hurt functionality for the regular users of source language. Also it will affect indexing because of smaller amount of content on each page.

[Zi55]

Added in TODO list - thanks for note :):up: I will check it.
Hello ,
It's fixed in your site , but still not fixed in the lastest version :( , please help NLP-er.
Thanks ,
Zi55

[imported_silkroad]

In an earlier discussion here, someone asked about what lanaguages Google Adsense supports. Of course, one of the best ways to understand Google Adsense is to understand Google Adwords. For those of you who do not use Adwords, I have attached a screen shot from the control panel that clearly shows the languages suppored by Adwords/Adsense.

Now you know for sure :D

Enjoy.

[Kolbi]

My question is not answered yet :)
There?an issue if you try register on a translated page.
It alway says that I haven?t:

Since you have decided not to accept the Terms of Use, you can not continue with registration.

Go to the Forum Home or click Back on your browser's' if you still want to accept the terms of use.

???

[NLP-er]

It would hurt functionality for the regular users of source language. Also it will affect indexing because of smaller amount of content on each page.

It is such possibility.

In such way please see here a little manual about how to recognize does page is translated and how to made special things for translated pages:
http://www.vbenterprisetranslator.com/forum/general-discussions/149-different-style.html#post508

[NLP-er]

Hello ,
It's fixed in your site , but still not fixed in the lastest version :( , please help NLP-er.
Thanks ,
Zi55

Sorry - I'm out of context. Can you please remind me what it is about :) I have some bug already corrected but not released yet in vBET 2.x

[NLP-er]

In an earlier discussion here, someone asked about what lanaguages Google Adsense supports. Of course, one of the best ways to understand Google Adsense is to understand Google Adwords. For those of you who do not use Adwords, I have attached a screen shot from the control panel that clearly shows the languages suppored by Adwords/Adsense.

Now you know for sure :D

Enjoy.

So it seems that is similar list as for translations (if not same). I suppose they maybe forgot to update AdSense TOS after they add support for new languages (btw - this support is already since several months, but for Google it is still new).

[imported_silkroad]

So it seems that is similar list as for translations (if not same). I suppose they maybe forgot to update AdSense TOS after they add support for new languages (btw - this support is already since several months, but for Google it is still new).

Technical people are always behind on the documentation!

I advise anyone who runs Adsense to also understand Adwords. It is easy to open an Adwords account and see now Google targets countries and languages.

OBTW, NPL-er, you should take a 1/2 day break from coding and debugging and create at least one 300x250 rectangle ad-image and at least one 728x90 leaderboard-image. Then, since you are such a great guy and doing such a great job, I'll run some of your 300x250s and 728x90s for free (since you already have me on your "supporter" list) to drive more traffic to your new web site :D

[Zi55]

Hello NLP-er ,
Thank for your reply here the bug
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?p=1895229&highlight=Zi55#post1895229
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?p=1893548&highlight=Zi55#post1893548

Thank you ,
Zi55

[NLP-er]

Technical people are always behind on the documentation!

I advise anyone who runs Adsense to also understand Adwords. It is easy to open an Adwords account and see now Google targets countries and languages.

OBTW, NPL-er, you should take a 1/2 day break from coding and debugging and create at least one 300x250 rectangle ad-image and at least one 728x90 leaderboard-image. Then, since you are such a great guy and doing such a great job, I'll run some of your 300x250s and 728x90s for free (since you already have me on your "supporter" list) to drive more traffic to your new web site :D

Great thanks! I will.

[NLP-er]

Hello NLP-er ,
Thank for your reply here the bug
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?p=1895229&highlight=Zi55#post1895229
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?p=1893548&highlight=Zi55#post1893548

Thank you ,
Zi55

About 1st one - it is not on my TODO list anymore so it should be corrected.

About Avant Explorer - honestly I didn't check it yet.

Do you have newest version and still have this issue?