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Old 08-02-2005, 04:14 PM
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Default A security section and no premium modifications please

Since the thread got closed, I'll reply here.

As princeton said:

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  • - There should be an Article/Guide/How-To section.
    - It should be clearly stated.
    - This section should be found within the upper-half of the page.
    - You should direct all members to it (registration email, pm, post, etc).
    - A 'security' article should be stickied GLOBALLY or prepended automatically on every mod thread.
  • - no PREMIUM forum - anyone can get their mod listed
    it's misleading - 'premium' has a 'superior quality' connotation to it (NOTE: I'm not saying that what is there now is not 'quality'.)
    - To a new member, it would appear as if vb.org gave it a 'thumbs up' or is endorsing it. Yea, I know there is a 'more info' but how many users actually take the time to read it -- especially, when PREMIUM is in BOLD?
    - I would move all the mods back to FULL RELEASES (however, mod authors should stay with the same options as they have within the PREMIUM section) eg. a 'supported' mod forum found in PREMIUM moved into PORTAL SOFTWARE as a sub-forum
    - A mod can be 'supported' today but that doesn't mean that the author will 'support' it tomorrow. What then?
I agree that we need a section for security articles, so that everyone can read them and so that everything would be in one place.

Also, by having Premium modifications, the admins of this site show no integrity. If you want no labels and/or divisions, then remove all those pointless premium sections please thanks.
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Old 08-02-2005, 04:17 PM
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Since the thread got closed, I'll reply here.

As princeton said:



I agree that we need a section for security articles, so that everyone can read them and so that everything would be in one place.

Also, by having Premium modifications, the admins of this site show no integrity. If you want no labels and/or divisions, then remove all those pointless premium sections please thanks.
I don't really think you understand the concept behind the premium modifications.

They've sustained a point were support can no longer be done in a single thread and have grown to need their own forum. Which they get so support can be given properly. That is all they are. Period.
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They've sustained a point were support can no longer be done in a single thread and have grown to need their own forum. Which they get so support can be given properly. That is all they are. Period.
There is no period. "Premium" is a misconception which read like "These hacks are better than others". Many of those "Premium" modifications are actually worse in quality than others, non-"Premium", except they might be more popular, but who cares about the popularity?
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A 'security' article should be stickied GLOBALLY or prepended automatically on every mod thread.
How many of you are security qualified? I am...a fully qualified member of the Alliance of Security Analysis Professionals

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ASAP started out as a small band of security sites under siege, and is rapidly expanding to include the "Best of the Best" the Internet Security Community has to offer.

ASAP is made up of website and forum owners and administrators, forum and site staff, individuals, companies and various organizations dedicated to providing security related support to computer end users.

ASAP is a joint effort designed to assist helping end users with as seamless a process as possible by using methods such as cross-referrals, multiple product support services, easy information access, and cross referencing/verification.

ASAP goals are:

* To ensure a high standard and quality of security support no matter where you seek help.
* To promote the products used to keep your computer clean and safe in an equal and fair manner.
* To ensure that end users are not affected by so called "product wars" and unfair marketing tactics, which have plagued several industries in recent years.

ASAP ensures that quality support and assistance will be freely available - knock one of the support networks out and another will pick it up immediately. In addition, pooled resources permit the ability to provide support redundancy, thereby adding an additional layer of protection against Internet based threats.

If you see the ASAP logo or banner used by a site, bulletin board, or person, you can be assured that you're getting the best support and assistance possible, as the combined efforts of all ASAP members are involved in helping everyone, and ASAP won't give up until your important investment is safe and clean.

ASAP is a non-profit, volunteer network.
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I don't think one should be qualified to be able to write an article.
I am not qualified just because I did not take a test or whatever is required..
However, I think I can write an article about security. I don't think it's necessary though, as we can copy relevant articles from other sites... Making some minor updates to those articles, of course.
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Yes, but copying and KNOWING what is best for the user are two different things. I tend to recommend well known FREE stuff from safe sites that maybe the average person copying an article might not know about. Also do you know who Tony Klein is? Or Merijn or RubbyDucky? Or Chris Boyd? Liz
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I don't think one should be qualified to be able to write an article.
I am not qualified just because I did not take a test or whatever is required..
However, I think I can write an article about security. I don't think it's necessary though, as we can copy relevant articles from other sites... Making some minor updates to those articles, of course.
But you may THINK you know all there it to know about security, whereas someone who is tested will know all that was decided is a necessity. Also - what is with the offensive / allmighty attitude lately? Is it necessary? Your last 4-5 threads have been like this.
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Hmm, we already have a Tipps and Tricks section and I think security articles would perfectly fit there.

As for the Premium Modifications, I recon that the word "Premium" might be misleading.
How do you think it should be called instead?
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As for the Premium Modifications, I recon that the word "Premium" might be misleading.
How do you think it should be called instead?
It should just be removed..
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That's not a good idea IMHO.

How would you handle support for those Hacks then, again in one thread?
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