The Blank Installer Project

[Zachery]

The Blank Installer Project

The Idea.

Even with the HTL, which can make things so much easier for a hacker’s life, not everyone chooses to use the HTL or even wants to install it, and then there is the rule that no hack may be released with out a txt or other installer if it uses the HTL, which is not under discussion here. So as we all know every hacker is left writing their own installer which can take just as long - if not longer than the hack itself to write.

The idea behind this project is to create a blank installer system that can be used for any hack at least at first, a template, as it would be. The installer should be able to use vBulletin’s own XML files, for both adding new templates, and adding new phrases, to help decrease time in having full templates and or full phrases in the system if it is at all possible.

Now, my self being a sub par hacker as it is, I would hope that the vBulletin community could get together and work on this as a group, where everyone could contribute what they are able to, and then in the future release this for all future hackers to be able to use.

[Oblivion Knight]

This has been discussed for a while now, but nothing has arose..

It would be great if such a thing could be created, but many people are currently busy with their own projects, or don't have the knowledge to help with such a thing (myself included probably). The HTL was a step in the right direction though..

[Jerry]

API & IDL.

[Zachery]

Originally Posted by Jerry

API & IDL.

Are you going to be doing this for us jerry

[Tony G]

Sounds like a great idea, and I'd love to see it happen.

[AlexanderT]

Honestly, I've always prefered simple plain text instruction on how to apply a hack. Firstly, I want to know exactly what a hack does to my board. And secondly, I have my own way of commenting applied hacks, which enables me to make it easier to upgrade vB later on.

If someone people prefer automated installers, like based on HTL or a "blank installer" (whatever that is ), that's fine with me; I only hope that hack authors will continue to always supply plain texts file as well.

[Tony G]

Originally Posted by AlexanderT

Honestly, I've always prefered simple plain text instruction on how to apply a hack. Firstly, I want to know exactly what a hack does to my board. And secondly, I have my own way of commenting applied hacks, which enables me to make it easier to upgrade vB later on.

If someone people prefer automated installers, like based on HTL or a "blank installer" (whatever that is ), that's fine with me; I only hope that hack authors will continue to always supply plain texts file as well.

It would be wise for them to display both versions, as some people prefer installing it manually.

[Zachery]

Originally Posted by Tony G

It would be wise for them to display both versions, as some people prefer installing it manually.

All i plan for this to be is a tempalte for other hackers to use as an installer, for txt files its becoming too much of a hassle, to apply some changes that way, having to mass change querys to work with prefixes is a problem in it self. Not to mention having to add 30+ phrases would be insane, i get fed up adding 5 as it is now.

Most big hacks are released with installers, all they do is add templates settings and phrases and maybe a query or two, they still require you to manualy change files and templates.

[Tony G]

Originally Posted by Zachery

All i plan for this to be is a tempalte for other hackers to use as an installer, for txt files its becoming too much of a hassle, to apply some changes that way, having to mass change querys to work with prefixes is a problem in it self. Not to mention having to add 30+ phrases would be insane, i get fed up adding 5 as it is now.

Most big hacks are released with installers, all they do is add templates settings and phrases and maybe a query or two, they still require you to manualy change files and templates.

Well, if the installers were put to that use, it would be fine. But couldn't these be used to install whole hacks for you, without you editing a thing yourself?

[sabret00the]

Originally Posted by Tony G

Well, if the installers were put to that use, it would be fine. But couldn't these be used to install whole hacks for you, without you editing a thing yourself?

i just wanted (when i requested it in the other thread) something that inserts the templates and phrases, basically does all database additions.

thank you zach, wish i had more knowledge but this is a great move for this community