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Old 09-27-2016, 08:01 AM
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Default Redis cache + PHP7 + vB4, why not?

I had to downgrade PHP7 to PHP5.6 for my vB4 because php7 didn't support memcached.
I feel loading speed for the forum really is slow when it could not use memcached.

Is there an option to use vB 4 + php7 with redis cache like vB4 with memcached? can vB team change vB4 to run with redis and PHP7?

I think it will be more faster.

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I had to downgrade PHP7 to PHP5.6 for my vB4 because php7 didn't support memcached.
I feel loading speed for the forum really is slow when it could not use memcached.

Is there an option to use vB 4 + php7 with redis cache like vB4 with memcached? can vB team change vB4 to run with redis and PHP7?

I think it will be more faster.

Thanks
You didnt have to downgrade, you choose to, vBulletin does not need memcached to run.
As already pointed out previously, memcached is available for php7 should you want to use it.

No, we wont be adding support for Redis, if you dont want to install memcached, then use APCu, which is supported in vB 4.2.5.

Also, while using any of these for the datastore will possibly make the site a little faster, its not going to be by much - if your site is "really is slow when it could not use memcached" then you have bigger server issues that you need to sort out.
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Old 09-27-2016, 11:49 PM
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As already pointed out previously, memcached is available for php7 should you want to use it.
I know you said this in your previous post but when I upgraded to PHP7.0.10, Memcached is error and could not use it on the server or enable it for vB4
Someone said we need to wait php7.1 to support memcached but it can take a long time.

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No, we wont be adding support for Redis, if you dont want to install memcached, then use APCu, which is supported in vB 4.2.5.
I am sure if a CMS has more support for functions that users need, more new customers will come.

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Also, while using any of these for the datastore will possibly make the site a little faster, its not going to be by much -
Not only making web pages load faster but also improved performance for our forum, I can not use PHP7 but not for memcached.
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It's entirely possible for you or someone else to make a new Redis datastore for vBulletin but honestly, you don't really need memcached on PHP 7 if you enable OPCache. Are you sure the OPCache module is enabled in your PHP 7 installation?
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It's entirely possible for you or someone else to make a new Redis datastore for vBulletin but honestly, you don't really need memcached on PHP 7 if you enable OPCache. Are you sure the OPCache module is enabled in your PHP 7 installation?
Of course, I tried to install caching solutions as memcached, redis...but memcached is working the best, I think the same to Redis if vB integrates it as a datastore like memcached.

And OPCache is enabled on my forum with php7
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Like I said, we wont be adding Redis, you have been told the alternatives, there is nothing we can do if you stubbonly refuse to use them.
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I am sure if a CMS has more support for functions that users need, more new customers will come.
I think its safe to say that vB4 will not see any further feature development. Asking for it is just a waste of time. IB's current product is vB5, and this will not change after four years. If you want it, in all likeliness you'll have to code it yourself or pay someone.
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