Not as many hackers?

[LanciaStratos]

Is it just me, or does there seem to be less and less people responding to requests? I've seen quite a few great ideas without any responses.

[Aman]

It's nice to make a fancy looking new site but I don't understand why the hacks section goes to vbulletin.org and was not left on vbulletin.com. I would think this move would only work to dissuade hackers and users from actually participating in the hacks forums - unfortunate! I would have rather seen vbulletin.org become a prototype board where people could just test out new hacks and beta features by actually seeing and using them. It is not too late, why not return the hacks forum to vbulletin.com and just add most all the hacks to the prototype board for people to actually experience them so they may decide how they think vbulletin should further develop?

[Crinos]

I think one of the reasons it was moved here is so that the vbulletin.com support staff would not be obligated to answer hacking questions Since hacking is a support nightmare because of all the tinkering involved, they just wanted to give notice that, although they endorse vb.org, they don't actually include it in their support responsibilities

[Aman]

Why not write as a little disclaimer on the hacker's forum that support will not be provided for that forum?

[Reeve of shinra]

That notice is there, which goes to show how well its noticed and taken into consideration.

Most of however know that hacks arent officially supported by VBulletin. Most us are used to dealing with programs and computers - so when something goes wrong, we know that if we undo it 99% of the time our forums will still work while we ask the hacker for help.

Newbies don't. I can easilly see them asking for help and a VBulletin tech going through the motions of tracking down the problem. Thats time and resources that could be spent keeping prices down and improving the next release.

As a consumer, if it helps keep prices down and improves support and contuined development - then by all means - to a new url I shall go =)

[FWC]

Originally posted by Reeve of shinra
That notice is there, which goes to show how well its noticed and taken into consideration.

As a consumer, if it helps keep prices down and improves support and contuined development - then by all means - to a new url I shall go =)

I couldn't agree more.

[LanciaStratos]

As a consumer, if it helps keep prices down and improves support and contuined development - then by all means - to a new url I shall go =)

Even if it hinders the development of new modifications?

[FWC]

Originally posted by LanciaStratos
Even if it hinders the development of new modifications?

I don't think it is.

[Aman]

We will see! However, I think more traffic to the hackers forums will equate into more innovation and more innovation will equate in greater revenues due to a consistantly better vbulletin. For the people that bother support staff in the hackers forum a generic form post will do: Sorry, the hack forum is not supported. Please contact the authors of the hacks for any assistance.

[Bender]

this has been discussed in deep detail on vbulletin.com (vb2.2 release-discus), and, quite frankly, I think it's a little insulting to sinecure and firefly to bring up the issue of usefulness of vbulletin.org.
I think there may be less 'hack-interested' users here than on old hackforums on vbulletin.com, but this will change - some users were lost, but new ones will appear