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webhost · #1 11-09-2001, 01:19 PM

Please read the following post and comment if you want.
http://vbulletin.com/forum/showthrea...threadid=32864

Freddie Bingham · #2 11-10-2001, 01:58 PM

I'll comment.

Do you hack your forum(s) and is that any way related to the issue you have with a version 2.2.1 being released next week?

webhost · #3 11-10-2001, 03:31 PM

First Freddie you already know the answer to that question I have talked to you numerous times. So all you want is it to be posted for all to see, I am not stupid. That really doesn't change anything though.

dirgotronix · #4 11-15-2001, 08:49 AM

If upgrading is such a pain in the ass, don't upgrade.

If you need to upgrade, don't complain. You put the hacks there of your own accord.

If you find yourself upgrading often, don't hack.

If you're not satisfied with that, write your own solution. I really don't think it would be that hard to write a script that would str_replace() any hacks you want to add in.

Tried beyond compare? I have so many hacks it isn't funny, and it took me no more than an hour or two to upgrade my forum.

Honestly here, you're complaining that you will have to redo unsupported hacks on a new version. Don't like it, don't upgrade. Need to upgrade, don't complain, jelsoft doesn't support hacks, you put them there yourself.

webhost · #5 11-15-2001, 09:18 AM

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I have so many hacks it isn't funny, and it took me no more than an hour or two to upgrade my forum.

Sorry but you really don't have any idea how many scripts I have added or how big they are. The other point that you are not getting here are some of the bugs should have been fixed before release, I agree not all bugs can be fixed before release. But come on one of the main things on any forum is to be able to let me people register and that was even screwed up with activation email now that should of been checked. You must enjoy be a beta tester for other companies. That is good to know next time we come out with something new I will look you up and see if you want to try it. With all of your widsom you must be at least 50 right?

orca · #6 11-15-2001, 03:50 PM

Talking avbout bugs...I once read an interview with a lead programmer from a major company. He said, that every first release has (with all tests etc.) about 15'000 lines with bugs. Or even more.

Mark Hensler · #7 11-16-2001, 06:30 AM

webhost is starting to bug me. Can you get that one removed next release, please?

If you have ever worked on a large scale project, you would know that bugs are not only unavoidable, they are numerous.

You installed the hacks, so put up or shut up.

webhost · #8 11-16-2001, 07:04 AM

One thing that is good about this country of ours is everybody is entitled to their own point of view. That is all I will say about it tired of the subject because nothing will change anyway.

69-FLy-gUy · #9 11-17-2001, 07:23 AM

I probably wouldn't regularily post regarding this... But I would like to share my opinion in this matter...

Sure.. I will agree that upgrading with hacks can be a pain in the ass.. I don't deny that... But hey.. What can you do? If you need to upgrade to fix bugs.. then you need to upgrade.. Would you rather your board crash or not function properly because vB didn't want to release a new version so soon? Of course not.. You would be a lot more frustrated then...

I think that the upgrades are a good thing.. it lets you know that even after the product is released.. they are still making adjustments and making the board better than it already is...

As it has been pointed out many times.. you choose to install the hacks yourself.. not vb.. Sooner or later you know taht you are going to have to upgrade your board.. Sure.. you might lose your hacks.. but you can get it back.. granted that it may take a while.. BUT AT LEAST YOU WILL GET THEM... Its better than nothing isn't it???

If you look in one of the forums. i belive that it is the Full Releases.. They even tell you which files were modified so that it would make it EASIER for you to replace/fix the hacks... Did they have to do that? No.. they didn't.. they did that for us.. because they realize that we do put a lot of time into putting hacks on our board. and they are trying to help us out.. Then when you complain about it.. Don't you think that they may feel a little frustrated that they did something to help.. and all you did was complain?

This is my opinion on this.. and I realize that I open myself to criticism.. But I wanted to let you all know how I feel..

Thanks...

69

PS-vB .. You are doing a great job.. Keep up the good work=)

LuBi · #10 11-17-2001, 08:42 AM

Always comment hacks, and make sure to keep a hack list. Two simple rules that keep upgrading simple. Also since they are releasing a list with all the files changed, all that's needed is to upload a few files and upgrade14 in my sitaution and boom done. The nall I have to do is go through my hack list and re-edit the few files that have changed... Not to difficult.

my .02

plus look, this forum is now running 2.2.1.....

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