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Old 04-25-2009, 06:11 PM
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Default Archived mods : how bad VB considers is clients ?

Hi,

I understand things must improve and versions may not beeing more distributed, but I was very disapointed when I saw that we were unauthorized to download any old archived mods !

The board was made with members and for members. Since the website has migrated to VB.com it looks like they push us to buy and follow newer versions.

I'm VB licensed and think I worked like others to get VB board a famous software.

Ok, archived mods threads are read-only, I understand it.
What I don't understand is why you let threads readable but prohibit downloading attachments.
From that way, those threads are useless and worse...
Aren't we as good enough for you to have read-only access to the entire archived mods, including the main attachments ?

Consider that what you've done to older versions will be done for future versions too. Are people and contributors only disposable ?

I'm very sad about this, I would like VB staff (.org or .com I don't understand anymore right now) to find a way to access those threads completely. (let them closed but free the attachments please !)
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Old 04-25-2009, 07:36 PM
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actually, archiving old mods was not a administration decision only... all the coders were involved in the decision... there is a poll called each time we have to archive a section of the site. we, the coders, decided to archive that old work because we do not want to support it anymore. the ones willing to do so can always put their code somewhere else and offer it to older versions...

you are pointing at the wrong person...
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Old 04-25-2009, 07:45 PM
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I don't think donwloading attachments involves support...
Archived threads mean nothing in that state, even if I'm pointing to the wrong "staff".
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Old 04-25-2009, 07:58 PM
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so if you break your forum because you install something obsolete, you will not have a need for support?!

maybe you because you are experienced... but what with the hundreds of admins here who have no idea how to deal with bugs ?!
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When mods are indicated without support, people usually understand it...
Many mods are given to be used at your own risk.
I don't understand why archived mods are shown but attachment not downloadable (a txt file, an image...).

You already know that when threads are closed (and sections belonging to), noone will be able to post so as to get support.

I find this decision very strange, and I don't think it was a good one.
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Old 04-25-2009, 08:33 PM
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you may also have a wrong idea of why it is not a good decision... i can assure you that once per month someone is whinning about the archives not being downloadable, and in no way the decision was debated to change that fact... i would personally be against it.. you are on the side of the client...
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When mods are indicated without support, people usually understand it...
Many mods are given to be used at your own risk.
I don't understand why archived mods are shown but attachment not downloadable (a txt file, an image...).
Have you ever looked to see how often users who install Unsupported Mods then come and ask for support in the main forum? Quite a few. They complain that they aren't getting support in the thread, so they are coming to the main forums for support. They don't understand the whole Install at your own risk thing. In fact, some users think it is their right to get a mod that works perfectly on their site with their millions of add-ons (conflicting mods? The developers should make sure it works perfectly with any other mod!!!).
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The developers should make sure it works perfectly with any other mod!!!.
I disgree on that point, Developers and coders shouldn't have to make their mods futureproof.

(unless you emant that was what people expected?)
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Old 04-25-2009, 10:27 PM
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The reason for archiving and annoying support is understandable, but that's all, and I ask you again : what's the need of having hundreds of unuseable threads ?

Nothing will stop users and members to post stupid things and disturb the community. Breaking old threads is not helpfull and is bad for the community.

It looks like you throw away those millions of books in a library only because they are too old, and take too much place.

Really, assume what you decided and erase completely the archived threads, which are only hooks : "look at those beautifull mods... but only look.... it's not for you"
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Old 04-25-2009, 10:32 PM
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actually you are telling two opposite things as example... you ask why we let these threads on the site and you accuse us to throw these book... come on, you have no argument, you just want to whine...

and yes, the staff will not answer you that way... i'm a client too, and your accusations are touching me too. the opposite way.
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