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Old 04-17-2009, 08:46 PM
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Default PirateBay guys are now announced as guilty, what's next?

Ok, maybe it's not the best place where to talk about ThePirateBay, i don't really want to talk about the website, as i don't care about their content, but i wanted to hear you about what you think about these trials on pirate sites...

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Just minutes ago the verdict in the case of The Pirate Bay Four was announced. All four defendants were accused of ‘assisting in making copyright content available’. Peter Sunde: Guilty. Fredrik Neij: Guilty. Gottfrid Svartholm: Guilty. Carl Lundstr?m: Guilty. The four receive 1 year in jail each and fines totaling $US 3,620,000.
The fact here is important... they are all guilty, and noone will go to jail, none will pay the fines... because they have no money. they are on offshore countries, and until the UN have a decision based on these offshore countries, the guys have nothing to fear...

btw, the site is still operated, opened and visited a lot... the police was never able to close it, and i suppose they never will.

so why spending hundreds of millions sueing these guys if nothing can be done against them? a show to all who think the laws can not be applied, that's all...

we are supposed to be protected by lawyers when we want to apply our copyrights... we are supposed to be protected by the copyright laws, but it seems that these guys win all the way... not because they are heros, but because the are untouchable; they have no money, they have no life.

all these debates about our copyrights and credits etc worth nothing when we see how the law is applied. it is well written, it is greatly promoted, but yeah, we see where it goes...
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Old 04-17-2009, 08:49 PM
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Been all over the news today in the uk so I ventured to their site and watched their podcasts regrading the case. I have no real opinion on it. They aren't holding files simply indexing them. What next? sue google? they are indexing sites/links.

A waste of money I guess with the added nothing ventured nothing gained.
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Old 04-17-2009, 08:53 PM
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here is the announcement found at CNN.com: http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/04/17/s...ref=newssearch

oh, and in our local News, TPB lawsuit was below the News where they announce that MacDonald's will now offer Free Coffee in the next weeks... ROFL
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Old 04-17-2009, 09:24 PM
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I have been watching this case throughout the trial. I found it particularly interesting that they found the usage of bittorrent itself to be illegal. I'd be interested to hear how they can justify that and wonder what that means for any torrent site now.

And, if the big yahoos think that they are going to shut down filesharing, they are sadly mistaken. There are sooooo many private sites to get the material at. And anytime you close a site like TPB (which actually is not being closed - there was nothing in the verdict to say they had to close it), there are several more that pop right up. I've seen that happen with every torrent site that's been closed down. They just go underground.
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Old 04-17-2009, 09:39 PM
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funnily, making Torrents illegal does not mean a thing, P2P exists from the begining of the internet, even Firefox, Safari and Internet Explorers are P2P, as you have to exchange information between our website and our webclient... now, everything is now illegal... ARF
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Old 04-17-2009, 09:46 PM
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Well, I'd like to see them tell Blizzard that torrents are illegal since Blizzard does it's update via torrents. That's why I laugh about that. Everyone seems to want to think torrents are bad, bad, bad, but the bittorrent technology was not originally made for transferring "illegal" material - just for transferring files faster. But, as with many things, people find all sorts of uses for new technology.
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Old 04-17-2009, 09:50 PM
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yeah, most of Microsoft development system is torrent based too, we receive our updates via torrent... a surprising place where torrents are used for sharing data across a network is ... hum, would i say it... oh yeah, why not... SONY... one of the companies that sued TPB.
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II found it particularly interesting that they found the usage of bittorrent itself to be illegal.
That's quite interesting. I've only followed the story by half, but I couldn't really found something to blame them for. Unless they would have been posting content themselves that is, as a user.. Or by advertising perhaps.
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Old 04-17-2009, 10:27 PM
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the mega companies needed some victims, because their war was without end.

for a certain period, these guys will be happy in front of the public, because they think they won a war... intellectuals. but in the backstore, the guys who burn the original dvds will continue to spread them in the dark market, because it always have and will always be...
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WOW... lots of info here and lots of ways to think about it all. Very good points by many of you... I'll hold off on what I think until I read more into it.
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