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Old 02-23-2009, 10:47 AM
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Default How to deal with scammer?

He tool the project 12 days ago, and wanted me to pay 1/3 upfront which i did. I paid 80usd/240.

Now that he give the some nulled/rip off/incompleted script. I asked for my money back and he refuses to, and walked away.

What should i do?

I paid via Paypal.
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Old 02-23-2009, 10:55 AM
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1- report it in your Paid Service request
2- give the details IF possible
3- never pay upfront again

... this was debated way too much lately... nothing can really be done, you had to read the stickies and follow their rules. scammers are everywhere *(i may even be one of them, you never know!)

you can not be refund by paypal as it was not "tangible"...
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Old 02-23-2009, 02:34 PM
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He tool the project 12 days ago, and wanted me to pay 1/3 upfront which i did. I paid 80usd/240.

Now that he give the some nulled/rip off/incompleted script. I asked for my money back and he refuses to, and walked away.

What should i do?

I paid via Paypal.
1. Never pay up front again.
2. Give him a little visit to his house.
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Old 02-23-2009, 04:41 PM
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NEVER PAY MONEY UP FRONT, IF YOU DO THEN YOU MUST BE PREPARED TO LOSE IT

Not sure what can be done to stop people paying money up front, perhaps a tatoo on their foreheads in reverse so when they look in the mirror, it says, DON'T PAY!!

Why do people do it??? Perhaps its like an illness, if so, gimme all your money

Like my crazy friend Nexy says, this has been covered so many times and i feel that people want to change the record a bit, to be blunt its no ones fault except your own.

Take this as an example, say I was in a Restuarant, and a guy came up to me and said, "Hey, I have a 50" Plasma TV for sale for $250, Gimme the money and i'll go and fetch it"

How many of you here would give the cash without Question?? The truth is you wouldn't, But thats exactly what your doing.

Shop around, get to know the person and most importantly Hang onto your money until you've got something worth spending it on.

If a coder or designer is confident in their work then i'm sure they'll wait for their money, I can't see any reason as to why they'll feel to take cash up front, its not as if they have to buy anything. If you remember the following...

S.T.O.P

S. Safety - are you 100% certain that your happy to trust this person with your personal information and logins.

T. Time - Like all work, There comes a time when its completed. Find out how long and when you can expect your work to be done. You don't want it dragging on for months.

O. Organise - Before you engage full steam ahead, check that you have details about the coder, A landline number and address, Referances, and recomendations. A little bit of organising here will prevent hic ups later.

P. Payment. - When your happy with the work and the jobs been completed, then Pay, Don't delay as the coder has worked for you on Trust, Its a two way thing, so when you get your payment request and its what you agreed then please Pay promptly.

Nexy did say one thing last week which made sense, If a coder or designer is doing some private work for you, get them to upload it to a test site or forum so you can actually see what they've done and have your say if its not right and working how you'd expect it, then you'll have the chance to get the edits made. I think alot of the problems are at this sort of stage, where the clients not happy about one thing and that makes the coder fed up, that he practically gives up.

Any coder and designer if they are being honest with you would be more than happy to display what they have done for you on a test site or forum, and when your happy the exchange of monies can continue.

Why would anyone pay for something that has not even been started beats me, But hey its your money

Whilst its great being able to hire coders and designers on here you need to be a bit responsible if you pay upfront, its not really fair expecting anyone to do something on your behalf, or even expect VB.org to sort out problems like this.

Its a Mad world out there so Be Safe and remember S.T.O.P !!
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Old 02-23-2009, 05:20 PM
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crazy ?!
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Old 02-23-2009, 05:27 PM
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crazy ?!
lol Crazy in the nice sense
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Old 02-23-2009, 05:45 PM
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If this was in response to a request you made here in the Paid Request forum, then read this and post some feedback - Providing Member Feedback
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Please also Read here https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/announcement.php?f=30&a=31 if your thinking of hiring someone to do work for you
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Old 02-23-2009, 07:57 PM
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1- report it in your Paid Service request
2- give the details IF possible
3- never pay upfront again

... this was debated way too much lately... nothing can really be done, you had to read the stickies and follow their rules. scammers are everywhere *(i may even be one of them, you never know!)

you can not be refund by paypal as it was not "tangible"...
That is not correct!

I just went through this nearly same situation, and because I requested a refund, and I gave them all of the details, I got my money back in full... Don't ever think that they won't, and never give up... Trust me... They will give your money back, even if it's just the fact that you want it back... been through that too...

Feel free to contact me if you need help with it...
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That is not correct!

I just went through this nearly same situation, and because I requested a refund, and I gave them all of the details, I got my money back in full... Don't ever think that they won't, and never give up... Trust me... They will give your money back, even if it's just the fact that you want it back... been through that too...

Feel free to contact me if you need help with it...
Only problem is that paypal will give you what the person has left in their account, so say you paid $100 and the guy has spent it, you'll get nothing.

Just to confirm if a scammer has hit the jackpot by scamming you out of $$$$, don't for one minute think he'll leave it in his paypal account, He'll spend it as soon as possible. Why risk Paypal freezing his account???

Please don't think that Paypal will repay you in full, if the guy has no money in his account

The best way is the safe way, Pay on result, not before :up:
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