Why are vBorg members so up tight?

[DieselMinded]

Ive talked with alot of members here and i swear only a few has a positive attitude most act like its killing them to help someone ,

Everytime i help via PM i get a raving review

"Finally Someone Nice on here!"

Why is it this way?

I dont feel like im competing with any of you just because i have a forum
I dont have to impress you but i will treat you with respect
If i can help you i will try if you want to help yourself

I think the reason is - Self Infatuation

On your forums you can say and do what you want - Whos going to stop you? You let it hang all out , Relaxed and willing to help everyone

On Your Forums you can post about anything and get 5 pages of replys just because of who you are

For the longest time i considered my self "The Thread Killer" here , people could be talking like Normal people for 300 pages, i post 1 time and the tread never gets posted in again . lol

People Just seem to be too censored , the Culture breeds the uptightness of the membership

Its very professional and does the job for giving me what i want so i too have fallen in this White Sheep mentality in risk of doing something wrong .

I have 2 infractions here somehow , Im damn near afraid to post this thread but its out of Respect for this community as its so helpful when it wants to be And i would like to bring to light that it wont hurt you to be Nice

The Coders are treated poorly by the members for the most part , All About them selves , How many times have you donated to a coder here ?

I have Donated over $500 This year alone to coders here for there mods and there help .

We all want big happy forums , and with vBorg and the coders here we can do it all together

Pay the Milk Man make a donation to a coder maybe they will be more willing to help the community for personal customizations :up:

No Rant Here

when people say "finally someone cool up here",. i can tell you right now that it's because they did not talk with anybody else, they simply posted in the wrong forum and were not answered with the answer they were willing to have.

and for the coders treated poorly, i can just tell something.. they are not supposed to be here for profit -- this is a sharing community, not a business. none is hired by Jelsoft, they do it for fun... if they are stupid enough to think they would retrieve any profit, monetary or thanks, they are misleaded...

[ssslippy]

The problem with people getting annoyed with them is for example when I get its on a product I did not make and happen to make a post in with a fix then the person wants extra help cause they refuse to read the post.

[legionofangels]

Nice speech.

I got an infraction at vb.com for answering threads in a help forum that no one had answered, but I didn't check the dates and they were like a year old.

Necromancy of topics is allowed on my website, and I would have thought that having all questions answered makes your product look pretty appealing knowing that there has never been an un-replied to support issue. Apparently they thought differently.

I don't care, it's my third one there, so I'm like "yay!" vbulletin is nothing but a regretful decision I made 2 years ago.

I like the people here and have spent over $500 on coding from the community.

I don't like certain people who won't answer pm questions, after you've asked in there modifications 3 times, but it just makes me think there either arrogant or really busy and either way I don't care. But support should be marked as not supported if they can't answer the question. Even an "I DON'T KNOW" in all caps, I would take. But other than that, pm'ing is useless.

I've helped and received some from people here, but I don't ignore members.

Dunno, those are my thoughts.

[DieselMinded]

Tell me , What do Coders Get out of Hours and Hours of Coding Mods for the Community ?

Personal Satisfaction? Social Status ? Most would leave it all for a meager $20 donation .

These are My opinions I have made some changes in my life after attending a few paid courses about Leadership & Culture , And how To Breed Encouragement & Enthusiasm in every aspect of my life , vBorg i visit Everyday and is apart of my life and I felt compelled to point out that theres no reason to have the mind set that your robbing the cookie jar by installing modifications here and you can be open and help others if you can and not fear recourse .

[legionofangels]

Originally Posted by nexialys

misleaded...

It's

misled

thank you.

[SEOvB]

I try to help anyone who first tries to help themselves.

Asking questions such as "How do i get my post information on left" get sort of tiring to answer repeatedly though and thats where some attitude comes in from certain people for certain replies

[Lynne]

I try to help out most people, but sometimes my help consists of telling them the search criteria - search "thisterm" "all mods" "titles only". I do that so that they can help themselves to find the answer, not because I'm trying to be mean or anything. I used to just post the link to the mod, but would then be told "oh, but I'm on 3.5" or "oh, but I want it to do *that* also." How was I to know if they don't say? So, now I do a quick search to make sure my search terms give results, then I post my standard search answer.

I'm glad people find the help they want through PMing you, but I wonder have you ever searched out their original post for help? Did you notice anything about the post that would explain the lack of help they got or did you think the responses given were unhelpful?

[Bilderback]

I feel more for all the die hard coders pushing out these awesome additions to vbulletin
for little to no return while they are forced to withstand the gradual price increases of
the board they and the rest of the community support for free.
My heart dropped as I returned today to renew my license to find the price increased.
Saddened mainly due to the fact that I have been working on a new vbulletin Mod for some time
now that I had hoped to release by the end of the year.
Now I feel that I must change direction, unfortunatley, and head back to the Drupal community
where I wont have to worry of the less fortunate not being able to afford vbulletin.
~sorry for the bit of off topic rant:erm:

[DieselMinded]

Originally Posted by Lynne

I try to help out most people, but sometimes my help consists of telling them the search criteria - search "thisterm" "all mods" "titles only". I do that so that they can help themselves to find the answer, not because I'm trying to be mean or anything. I used to just post the link to the mod, but would then be told "oh, but I'm on 3.5" or "oh, but I want it to do *that* also." How was I to know if they don't say? So, now I do a quick search to make sure my search terms give results, then I post my standard search answer.

I'm glad people find the help they want through PMing you, but I wonder have you ever searched out their original post for help? Did you notice anything about the post that would explain the lack of help they got or did you think the responses given were unhelpful?

This has Nothing to do with ME , Im glad i could help but i dont need any recognition of that .. It was stated to make a point . The Time it takes to get them help is balanced mentally with how much will it help them and if i can help them .

The "Whats in it for me" is a flawed Culture , Anything gained is positive encouragement to repeat the task for others

Based only on Your Comment here on this thread and the fact that earlier as soon as i posted it you read it and left

Your a Great person willing to help others but are not empowered , You shouldn't have to go to such an extent to help , instead your superiors should empower you the tools you need to complete your tasks in the best possible way , And by doing this the Members , You and the Powers At be will Progress . Its Easy to think of ways to make your example easier to complete ,

*Suggestion : Simply a Prompt once per month when we log in to verify what version of Vbulletin were running and having it display in postbit where "Design" is now because No one uses that anyway .

Theres many many more ways you can be empowered , Instead of Getting Burned out and going though so much to help have you considered asking for changes to make what you do so good easier , Always give reasons why

Thank You for your Service Here :up: