Automated Debian package-management support (eg, a vBulletin Debian repostiory)?

[mengland]

Does vBulletin provide Automated Debian package-management support (eg, a vBulletin Debian repostiory) so I can manage vBulletin installs via apt-get? Same with Add-ons?

Or at least .deb versions I can download manually and install?

vBulletin is not an application-based system, so the answer is no...

[mengland]

Originally Posted by nexialys

vBulletin is not an application-based system, so the answer is no...

Can someone try to explain what it means to "not be an applications-based system" or provide pointers to helpful reading?

hum, my answer was obvious, but looks like you did not understand its mean...

application-based systems are .mpkg files that contain automated installation of a product, or .pkg which are plugins or addons to an existing system... Debian use similar system, so if you ask if vBulletin can be installed as a package (.pkg), it is not possible... vBulletin have to be installed on your webserver with the install script contained in the archive... there is no automated-install or .pkg containing the script...

actually, only high-end commercial website packages have that capability, from what i know... scripts that cost like 5000$ each with professional support in-house...

[mengland]

Originally Posted by nexialys

application-based systems are .mpkg files that contain automated installation of a product, or .pkg which are plugins or addons to an existing system... Debian use similar system, so if you ask if vBulletin can be installed as a package (.pkg), it is not possible... vBulletin have to be installed on your webserver with the install script contained in the archive... there is no automated-install or .pkg containing the script...

Sounds like the short answer is no one has ported said install process to a Debian package (I wonder if it's in an .rpm?). Not sure what all the other verbiage is supposed to mean.

actually, only high-end commercial website packages have that capability, from what i know... scripts that cost like 5000$ each with professional support in-house...

Unless we are talking about different things (?), Debian packages like Apache, phpBB, mysql, bugzilla, GNU Mailman, etc have this glorious, magic, all-powerful "package-management" feature as well. For $0. More for rpm-like things under other Linux distributions like Redhat flavored and SuSE.

One of is us if off in another universe; I can't tell if it's nexialys or me.

Originally Posted by mengland

One of is us if off in another universe; I can't tell if it's nexialys or me.

don't bother with the answer.. i'm the one from the other universe... lol

[Dankness]

As a Ubuntu user for years, why would you want to import a product like VB into into a DEB or RPM? Its a simple wget to server, tar -xzf vbfile.tar.gz and run the install script

Or you could even Unzip it locally, FTP to the server then run the install script, There are no real dependancys with a php script, there are no other modules to hunt down as you would need with a RPM or DEB installer.

[mengland]

Originally Posted by Dankness

As a Ubuntu user for years, why would you want to import a product like VB into into a DEB or RPM?

To be clear, I would preferrably like to have vbulletin as part of a Debian repo, and thus dependencies and upgrades are automatically tracked and handled.

.deb's may do some of this, but not as well (per my little experience with Debian).

A straight tar/manual install offers no dependency and upgrade automated support. Yes, PHP depends on many things (php rev, associated librarys, possibly Apache modules, mysql integration, etc). Or at least, that's been my experience.

Counter this with http://packages.debian.org/lenny/phpbb2 , a nicely-integrated-with Debian means of installing and upgrading phpBB. vBulletin could theoretically set up their own Debian repo server, but judging by these thread responses, they don't currently have such a thing.

[bobster65]

Originally Posted by mengland

To be clear, I would preferrably like to have vbulletin as part of a Debian repo, and thus dependencies and upgrades are automatically tracked and handled.

.deb's may do some of this, but not as well (per my little experience with Debian).

A straight tar/manual install offers no dependency and upgrade automated support. Yes, PHP depends on many things (php rev, associated librarys, possibly Apache modules, mysql integration, etc). Or at least, that's been my experience.

Counter this with http://packages.debian.org/lenny/phpbb2 , a nicely-integrated-with Debian means of installing and upgrading phpBB. vBulletin could theoretically set up their own Debian repo server, but judging by these thread responses, they don't currently have such a thing.

You would probably have better luck posting this at www.vbulletin.com as they are the ones you need to address this to.

[mengland]

Thanks for the tip. Posted:

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=246468