Stop closing threads

[lasto]

this thread here did not get out of hand and i was watchin it very closely.

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthrea...=126417&page=4

Shutting threads without a valid excuse just gets peoples backs up.
End of day they posted in the lounge and just cause a mod deems its not suitable dont mean it should be shut.The thread in question raised a few questions and in shutting the thread what you are saying (vb.org) is that if u pay for a hack and something goes wrong then dont come posting on here cause u wont be allowed to post good/bad comments because we dont condone the hiring of hackers.
Basically you on your own.But the person who ripped you off is free to offer his services to other members.

If thats the case then maybe vb.org needs to rethink its strategy on the

Service Requests
For the request of paid service providers like programmers, designers or webmasters. This forum is only for PAID REQUESTS and NOT for OFFERS

If people hire someone from a site then surely they are entitled to make a comment or even a thread.This lets everyone know what is going on and can stop other people from hiring or passing on money to these people.
Also the guy who started the thread does have a valid point and i agree with him posting here as proberly do many others.
He was ripped off simple as and wants a few questions answered so is vb.org gonna re-open the thread in question ????

Also i may seem a bit strong on my views above as vb.org is a good site but play fair and let everyone have a say.

Originally Posted by lasto

this thread here did not get out of hand and i was watchin it very closely.

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthrea...=126417&page=4

Shutting threads without a valid excuse just gets peoples backs up.
End of day they posted in the lounge and just cause a mod deems its not suitable dont mean it should be shut.The thread in question raised a few questions and in shutting the thread what you are saying (vb.org) is that if u pay for a hack and something goes wrong then dont come posting on here cause u wont be allowed to post good/bad comments because we dont condone the hiring of hackers.
Basically you on your own.But the person who ripped you off is free to offer his services to other members.

If thats the case then maybe vb.org needs to rethink its strategy on the

Service Requests
For the request of paid service providers like programmers, designers or webmasters. This forum is only for PAID REQUESTS and NOT for OFFERS

If people hire someone from a site then surely they are entitled to make a comment or even a thread.This lets everyone know what is going on and can stop other people from hiring or passing on money to these people.
Also the guy who started the thread does have a valid point and i agree with him posting here as proberly do many others.
He was ripped off simple as and wants a few questions answered so is vb.org gonna re-open the thread in question ????

Also i may seem a bit strong on my views above as vb.org is a good site but play fair and let everyone have a say.

No - the thread will not be opened. The thread turned into a blantant attack on the person in question, and stopped being a general thread. Everything going on in that thread basically could have been handled in private.

vBulletin.org is NOT responsible for the transaction that take place from Service Request. We have a set of guidelines that should be followed when completely a service request.

We are looking to implement a system to help users give some sort of feedback after a transaction takes place...

[lasto]

and they where well within their rights to complain.Maybe private is a good idea but as was mentioned the guy would not reply to emails so what else where they to do.
If you are not prepared to let people whinge on your board if people rip them off then maybe you should consider removing the paid for services till you get something into place.
Guidelines are ok if they work but if you get ripped off then your basically saying dont come back here telling us cause we simply dont want to know.

Can u clarify this point ??

Originally Posted by lasto

and they where well within their rights to complain.Maybe private is a good idea but as was mentioned the guy would not reply to emails so what else where they to do.
If you are not prepared to let people whinge on your board if people rip them off then maybe you should consider removing the paid for services till you get something into place.
Guidelines are ok if they work but if you get ripped off then your basically saying dont come back here telling us cause we simply dont want to know.

Can u clarify this point ??

Members are allowed to state if they had trouble with someone. The thread in question got out of hand. Handling and discussing 3rd party transaction with the vendor should be done in private and outside of vbulletin.org.

[MRGTB]

I have to say, if this hack or hacks was posted before as paid requests (not sure if it was) on this site. I totally agree with lasto, the thread should have been left open.

The guy was not contacting them back via emails or anything. Otherwise they would have dealt wth it in private with him. They came here I'm guessing because it was a paid hack request on this forum originally, and did this as a last resort to get somewhere.

Got to say, I do think in this case the decision to close that thread was wrong. I thought most of the people in that thread were keeping there cool quite well and not letting it turn into flames from what I read. Which is quite good seeing as were talking about cash being involved here. Maybe a mod should have posted saying lets keep things cool or something, rather than just posting what he did, then closing the thread.

[lasto]

thing is threads get closed when things start getting out of hand.Which it clearly was`nt.Some people wanted answers but all you done now is basically cut off their only hope off getting a reply to their questions.Because now the guy can totally ignore his Emails/PMS or even Messengers and they left hanging high.

Serious something needs to be done.A platform (section) should be made available for members or even VBCoders to report in a thread if

a - a coder does not deliver the code
b - person who hired the coder refuses to pay.

Everyone said what they had too. The person in question replied, and asked those with concerns to email him. I don't see what more could be done?

The thread was turning into a soap opera....The original discussion of the thread was to discuss when a Commercial Mod author is idle for a period time. Not "It's been x hours, you owe me y, I want it by z."

As I said earlier, we are discussing plans to implement a solution to satisfy the clients and the coders.

[lasto]

Originally Posted by Danny.VBT

Everyone said what they had too. The person in question replied, and asked those with concerns to email him. I don't see what more could be done?

The thread was turning into a soap opera....The original discussion of the thread was to discuss when a Commercial Mod author is idle for a period time. Not "It's been x hours, you owe me y, I want it by z."

As I said earlier, we are discussing plans to implement a solution to satisfy the clients and the coders.

yep but discussing it aint actually helping - maybe it will do in the long run but at moment it aint.

How many coders do you think have been ripped ?
How many Customers do you think have been ripped off ?

Surely if its for a vbulletin board then they should be allowed to discuss freely and without fear of threads being closed.
Well my personal view is,I dont think that thread was finished and should of been left to run its course.

[Marco van Herwaarden]

The transactions that the complaints where about in that thread where mostly made outside of vB.org.

Even keeping that in mind, we let the thread open for all to have their say, left it open for the person who the complaints where against to answer. After that it was nothing more then individual people 'discussing' their transactions with the coder in public. This had nothing to do anymore with warning other members and did not serve a general cause anymore. Since the discussion about the individual transactions is something between the coder and their customer (and has nothing to do with vb.org) the thread was closed.

Please keep in mind that the thread was not deleted, and it is still there for anyone to read who wants to have information about the business practises of those mentioned in that thread.

[Logikos]

Originally Posted by Paul M

This is turning into a pointless chat/drama thread that has nothing to do with vb.org.

So what is the lounge forum for then?