Go Back   vb.org Archive > Community Central > Community Lounge
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 05-10-2006, 08:27 AM
arcadian_girl's Avatar
arcadian_girl arcadian_girl is offline
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 93
Благодарил(а): 0 раз(а)
Поблагодарили: 0 раз(а) в 0 сообщениях
Default what's an "average" server load?

i have both the ajax shoutbox, and the vbpager system installed on two boards that i run, and i'm worried my host is going to have a problem with it (because some people had issues with the shoutbox for that reason).

my boards are not that busy, we get about 50-80 visitors a day, but lots of them just browse and then leave. checked server averages today on one of my boards and this is what it said:

15.67 10.24 7.57 | 1 Users Online (1 members and 0 guests)

is that bad?
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 05-10-2006, 10:35 AM
Oblivion Knight's Avatar
Oblivion Knight Oblivion Knight is offline
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Sheffield, UK
Posts: 1,757
Благодарил(а): 0 раз(а)
Поблагодарили: 0 раз(а) в 0 сообщениях
Default

Yes, that's bad.

With 50-80 visitors a day, I'd expect the server loads to remain at least below 2.00 depending on the specs of the server.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 05-10-2006, 10:45 AM
Boofo's Avatar
Boofo Boofo is offline
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Des Moines, IA (USA)
Posts: 15,776
Благодарил(а): 0 раз(а)
Поблагодарили: 0 раз(а) в 0 сообщениях
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by arcadian_girl
i have both the ajax shoutbox, and the vbpager system installed on two boards that i run, and i'm worried my host is going to have a problem with it (because some people had issues with the shoutbox for that reason).

my boards are not that busy, we get about 50-80 visitors a day, but lots of them just browse and then leave. checked server averages today on one of my boards and this is what it said:

15.67 10.24 7.57 | 1 Users Online (1 members and 0 guests)

is that bad?
I think I read somewhere on here that those 2 hacks are notorious for slowing down a server. Try disabling them and see what you get then. I think you will be surprised.

And, as Andy said, those servers loads are extremely high for the amount of visitors you get daily.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 05-10-2006, 12:02 PM
arcadian_girl's Avatar
arcadian_girl arcadian_girl is offline
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 93
Благодарил(а): 0 раз(а)
Поблагодарили: 0 раз(а) в 0 сообщениях
Default

gahhh.. yeah, that's what i thought :/ i mean i don't mind myself, i just don't want my host to contact me..which they probably will if this continues. i'll probably disable the shoutbox first i guess, since that's the one that's said to really cause a lot of problems.

thanks guys.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 05-10-2006, 12:47 PM
Chris M's Avatar
Chris M Chris M is offline
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Northampton, England
Posts: 6,186
Благодарил(а): 0 раз(а)
Поблагодарили: 0 раз(а) в 0 сообщениях
Default

Another thing you could look into is installing any optimisation hacks that are available - They may help to decrease the server load of any other scripts that are causing it to increase

Chris
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 05-10-2006, 01:19 PM
FLMom's Avatar
FLMom FLMom is offline
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Florida
Posts: 386
Благодарил(а): 0 раз(а)
Поблагодарили: 0 раз(а) в 0 сообщениях
Default

Thanks for this thread arcadian_girl! I was having the same problem and just uninstalled the shoutbox, but for some reason my server numbers are still high. ( I think) Server Load Averages 2.94 3.27 3.45 | 6 Users Online (4 members and 2 guests)

I guess I have to check out some of those optimisation hacks that are out there.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 05-10-2006, 01:29 PM
Boofo's Avatar
Boofo Boofo is offline
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Des Moines, IA (USA)
Posts: 15,776
Благодарил(а): 0 раз(а)
Поблагодарили: 0 раз(а) в 0 сообщениях
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by FLMom
Thanks for this thread arcadian_girl! I was having the same problem and just uninstalled the shoutbox, but for some reason my server numbers are still high. ( I think) Server Load Averages 2.94 3.27 3.45 | 6 Users Online (4 members and 2 guests)

I guess I have to check out some of those optimisation hacks that are out there.
Are you running vbpager? That's another resource hog.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 05-10-2006, 02:11 PM
Oblivion Knight's Avatar
Oblivion Knight Oblivion Knight is offline
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Sheffield, UK
Posts: 1,757
Благодарил(а): 0 раз(а)
Поблагодарили: 0 раз(а) в 0 сообщениях
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by FLMom
Thanks for this thread arcadian_girl! I was having the same problem and just uninstalled the shoutbox, but for some reason my server numbers are still high. ( I think) Server Load Averages 2.94 3.27 3.45 | 6 Users Online (4 members and 2 guests)

I guess I have to check out some of those optimisation hacks that are out there.
Give it an hour or so for the server to stabilise.

Depending who is hosting you, you may also want to try requesting a server reboot.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 05-10-2006, 10:45 PM
Erwin's Avatar
Erwin Erwin is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Posts: 7,604
Благодарил(а): 0 раз(а)
Поблагодарили: 0 раз(а) в 0 сообщениях
Default

This is rough, but as a general rule, (and again, this is my simplistic understanding), for every 1 CPU, server load of 1 means that CPU is used 100%, so if you have dual CPUs, server loads under 2 is good. 4 CPUs, server loads up to 4 is good. Someone can probably correct me and explain better, but that's my rule of thumb.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 05-10-2006, 10:58 PM
Mark.B Mark.B is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 1,354
Благодарил(а): 0 раз(а)
Поблагодарили: 0 раз(а) в 0 сообщениях
Default

I consider myself very lucky, I have a shared host and a board that ticks over nicely (around 20 to 30 online at peak times) but my server load on four CPUs rarely goes over 1. At present it's 0.44 : 0.25 : 0.21.

The only time it normally increases is when my overnight database backup downloads, then it rises to about 1.5.

Only occasionally has it gone any higher, once it hit about 9 but the hosts rebooted it and that fixed it, something had gone wrong.

So I do pretty well really.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 08:19 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.12 by vBS
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
X vBulletin 3.8.12 by vBS Debug Information
  • Page Generation 0.03991 seconds
  • Memory Usage 2,269KB
  • Queries Executed 12 (?)
More Information
Template Usage:
  • (1)SHOWTHREAD
  • (1)ad_footer_end
  • (1)ad_footer_start
  • (1)ad_header_end
  • (1)ad_header_logo
  • (1)ad_navbar_below
  • (1)ad_showthread_beforeqr
  • (1)ad_showthread_firstpost
  • (1)ad_showthread_firstpost_sig
  • (1)ad_showthread_firstpost_start
  • (3)bbcode_quote
  • (1)footer
  • (1)forumjump
  • (1)forumrules
  • (1)gobutton
  • (1)header
  • (1)headinclude
  • (1)navbar
  • (3)navbar_link
  • (120)option
  • (1)pagenav
  • (1)pagenav_curpage
  • (2)pagenav_pagelink
  • (10)post_thanks_box
  • (10)post_thanks_button
  • (1)post_thanks_javascript
  • (1)post_thanks_navbar_search
  • (10)post_thanks_postbit_info
  • (10)postbit
  • (10)postbit_onlinestatus
  • (10)postbit_wrapper
  • (1)spacer_close
  • (1)spacer_open
  • (1)tagbit_wrapper 

Phrase Groups Available:
  • global
  • inlinemod
  • postbit
  • posting
  • reputationlevel
  • showthread
Included Files:
  • ./showthread.php
  • ./global.php
  • ./includes/init.php
  • ./includes/class_core.php
  • ./includes/config.php
  • ./includes/functions.php
  • ./includes/class_hook.php
  • ./includes/modsystem_functions.php
  • ./includes/functions_bigthree.php
  • ./includes/class_postbit.php
  • ./includes/class_bbcode.php
  • ./includes/functions_reputation.php
  • ./includes/functions_post_thanks.php 

Hooks Called:
  • init_startup
  • init_startup_session_setup_start
  • init_startup_session_setup_complete
  • cache_permissions
  • fetch_threadinfo_query
  • fetch_threadinfo
  • fetch_foruminfo
  • style_fetch
  • cache_templates
  • global_start
  • parse_templates
  • global_setup_complete
  • showthread_start
  • showthread_getinfo
  • forumjump
  • showthread_post_start
  • showthread_query_postids
  • showthread_query
  • bbcode_fetch_tags
  • bbcode_create
  • showthread_postbit_create
  • postbit_factory
  • postbit_display_start
  • post_thanks_function_post_thanks_off_start
  • post_thanks_function_post_thanks_off_end
  • post_thanks_function_fetch_thanks_start
  • post_thanks_function_fetch_thanks_end
  • post_thanks_function_thanked_already_start
  • post_thanks_function_thanked_already_end
  • fetch_musername
  • postbit_imicons
  • bbcode_parse_start
  • bbcode_parse_complete_precache
  • bbcode_parse_complete
  • postbit_display_complete
  • post_thanks_function_can_thank_this_post_start
  • pagenav_page
  • pagenav_complete
  • tag_fetchbit_complete
  • forumrules
  • navbits
  • navbits_complete
  • showthread_complete