How to pass users pw through email?

[John Lester]

With the reset of the subscriptions I can't think of anything else that would be needed.

[Simon Lloyd]

Originally Posted by John Lester

With the reset of the subscriptions I can't think of anything else that would be needed.

Don't know what you think of this but maybe a way to re-subscribe or request a mail back with the subscribe options in it. I only say this because you know how people are, if they've turned it off as sure as eggs are eggs they'll want to turn it back on at some point!, if we could make that process automated then they won't bother admins or staff and create more work for their pay! (what, you don't pay your staff? )

[John Lester]

So you want a "re-subscribe" option? How would that work if they delete the unsubscribe email? Perhaps have this plugin send the user a pm explaining what options were changed in case they would like to change them back in the future. If I could pay my staff I surely would

[Simon Lloyd]

Originally Posted by John Lester

If I could pay my staff I surely would

Me too!, i suppose the pm is fine as long as notifications we're turning off are ones that we can turn back on easily, if for instance you blocked birthday emails that would be done with a database query...etc so not something we can easily turn back on this is why i suggested a way of requesting a "Subscribe Options" email, if we're just blanket turning off admin mails then thats easy enough to direct them on how to turn those back on.

Like i've said before, just thinking or brain farting out loud

[John Lester]

Actually the blocking of birthday emails is done by deselecting the "receive emails from admin" option. But yes the pm would contain a list of options that were changed and how to change them back to however you want them

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Originally Posted by kh99

Edit: ...and if you have any other changes you want me to look at and possibly include, go ahead and post them.

It just dawned on me, I don't know for sure which settings you have already included into this mod.

What I think it should include (to be the most comprehensive unsubscribe mod to date) is: turn off email from admins, turn off email from other members, turn off friend requests, turn off emails for new pms, turn off vcard download, set subscriptions to "through control panel only", reset existing subscriptions to "through control panel only", move the user to a different user group, send the user a pm explaining what changes where made and where to change them back if they want.

$db->query("UPDATE " . TABLE_PREFIX . "user SET options= options - 256 WHERE (options & 256) AND userid=" . $vbulletin->userinfo['userid']);
$db->query("UPDATE " . TABLE_PREFIX . "user SET options= options - 2097152 WHERE (options & 2097152) AND userid=" . $vbulletin->userinfo['userid']);
$db->query("UPDATE " . TABLE_PREFIX . "user SET options= options - 32 WHERE (options & 32) AND userid=" . $vbulletin->userinfo['userid']);
$db->query("UPDATE " . TABLE_PREFIX . "user SET options= options - 4096 WHERE (options & 4096) AND userid=" . $vbulletin->userinfo['userid']);
$db->query("UPDATE " . TABLE_PREFIX . "user SET autosubscribe = 0 WHERE autosubscribe = 1 OR 2 OR 3 AND userid=" . $vbulletin->userinfo['userid']);

That bit takes care receive email from members, receive email on friendship request, new subscriptions to "through control panel only", turns off vcard, and turns of emailonpm.

[John Lester]

So at 4 am this morning I woke up with an idea on how to incorporate into this mod Simon's idea for a resubscribe link.

In the pm that is sent out stating that such and such settings have been changed to ensure you no longer receive emails from our site, a link is included to "resubscribe" the user. The link would take you to a page (not the user cp) with only the settings that were changed and explain in a little more detail what the settings do and the option to change / reselect them. Then the users clicks a radio button saying "yes I want to receive emails from websitehere that correspond with the settings I have selected". Once the radio button is checked the input box for their email address becomes available and they enter their email and click the resubscribe box.

That way a user has to "double opt in" and has no ground to claim any of the emails as spam

Under the resubscribe box is a note that states "In order to receive emails from websitehere you need a valid email address. To update/change your email address click here before submitting." That link would open a new window to the change email / password in the users cp (since they're already logged on to read the pms).

I think if you could incorporate that, this mod will become very popular, and perhaps if the devs really do have some smarts they'll incorporate it into the core at some point

[Simon Lloyd]

John, exactly my thoughts, only i was thinking of it in a one shot mail, the one they get to unsubscribe also has the options to resubscribe (negates the need for extra coding in templates..etc) but your idea can work just as well and like you say, a seperate page gives you the space to explain a little more (Kevin, don't forget to make this compatible with at least vb3.7.x onward, it's gotta be the most "Must have" mod idea to have ever come about), and hopefully they'll take this on in vb5

[kh99]

The only small issue I see with the resubscribe stuff is that it's actually possible (as far as I know) for a member to be subscribed to hundreds of threads and forums and have a different type of notification for each, so if we set them all to "no email" then we won't remember what they were (unless of cource we save all that somewhere - I suppose we could make a huge string).

[Simon Lloyd]

And that is the issue, if you turn off forum subscriptions (the user may have only wanted to turn off the odd one or two) then it's a pain for the user to resubscribe to each, so either you do need to save all the unsubscribes in a string in the db or explain to the user that it turns all of them aff and that they'd have to visit each forum to turn on the ones they want (i've built a mod for this vb3 for easy selection all in one place, which if you want the code i'll gladly donate it), see that attached for how my mod works

[John Lester]

Just set them to "through control panel only" that way they keep their subscriptions but don't get the emails. They can then choose to receive emails upon thread subscription, sure they'll have to go through it thread by thread ... but it's the price they'll have to pay for unsubscribing then resubscribing.

My thoughts are, if they want to unsubscribe from all emails then it's on them to reselect the ones they want if they change their mind later on.

I think having options in the ACP to choose what the unsubscribe button does would be the best bet. Then you would have to tell them (admins) to change the phrase(s) to reflect what settings are changed when a user clicks the button.

The reason I suggest a pm vs email for the resubscribe is (at least in my case(s) ), the user will most likely delete the email and therefore have no idea what was changed. There is a better chance at them saving a pm then the email