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Old 03-18-2005, 09:50 PM
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Thanks Paul M !

@amykhar - Sure - quality of Support is a good argument.

But did you know that we will have members of the Official vbulletin-germany Crew on Board (at this Time 2).

Did you think about - maybe we canno?t give all answers that you can give for your Hack but we can translate answers of you for our german Users too ?

It is our highest Interest to give Quality to our Users - in any other Way we wouldnt have Users.

Hope you change your Vote ! Think about it ....
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Old 03-18-2005, 10:19 PM
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Let me get things straight here:

First of all, I'm not really going to kick into the GPL discussion above, it's just a simple question wether or not he uses parts of GPL-Software and relies on them as integral parts of his project - I haven't looked at the script, so I'm not able to tell, but if he does, GPL is necessary and redistribution (with intact copyright) is possible without explicit written consent from him - but that's not a basis for negotiations, that's just stupid swashbuckling.

Secondly, I'd like to say something regarding vBhacks-germany.com.

I personally would support the idea as a lot of native german speakers do not speak English very well and a concept like the one which is intended here, could well work out.
I don't really see why people are so fussy about it, I mean, I'm a programmer myself, I've been victimized by pirates who stole my software and I've been victimized by people who translated my software without my knowledge (non-gpl software), yet, I can't see why you're fussy about hacks which are meant to just help the community (especially since all copyrights will be kept intact).

What good is it if a well worthy market (Germany) is unable to use your scripts because they are unable to understand your scripts?

Think about it.
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Old 03-19-2005, 05:12 AM
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That's a very good aruement nullified, but I find Revan's better.

Phrasing a hack takes a lot of time, way more than it would take to simply not phrase the hack.
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Old 03-19-2005, 10:45 AM
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As redlabour mentioned before, we will have members from the official vb-germany.com team in the vbhacks-germany.de team.

Also Scott Molinari, publisher of Adduco Digital e.K. and official reseller from Jelsoft Enterprises Limited in Germany, told us that integration into the official licence validation system should not be a problem (when vbhacks-germany runs well), so don't worry about unlicensed people getting hacks and support for vB.

Support will only be given to licensed people.

What I can't understand: Why do some of the hack authors here in the thread make such "trouble" when we will translate their hacks into German an d "re-releasing" them on vbhacks-germany.de to support non-english-speaking licenceholders?

YOU, as author, will be named as author of YOUR hack.
YOU, as author, will get all the credits for YOUR hack.

vb-hacks-germany will only translate your hacks, no changes are made to the technical source codes.

Only aim of our intention with vbhacks-germany:
Supporting non-english-speaking licenseholders with "language-support" so that the vb-community may become bigger and bigger (especially with people think of buying another bbs because of missing german-hack-support).

Please have a look at the poll in this thread. More than 62 % voted FOR the project vbhacks-germany with german hack support. More than 24% of the voters will have a look at the new hack-support project. Only 13 % voted against the project.

Also look at the poll herein the thread: Over 72 % voted that we should translate their hacks.

I think that this shows necessity of starting a german speaking hack support.

Also think of Germany beeing the second largest area selling vBs (as nullfield just mentioned above)!
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Old 03-19-2005, 10:55 AM
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If vbhacks-germany.com will become an official Jelsoft sister company, I doubt anyone will have a problem with releasing their hacks there.
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Old 03-19-2005, 11:05 AM
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We only want to start a german speaking hack support project like vb.org. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Old 03-19-2005, 11:19 AM
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That's fine Hellraider, but just translate the phrases into an XML file, don't go taking all our code and redistributing it I can't see anyone with having a problem with providing just XML files and a link to download the modification from vB.org!
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Old 03-19-2005, 12:33 PM
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I think you didn't get the point

Non-english-speaking, german license-owners won't come to vb.org (linked or not) cause this forum is based on english. All support is done in english.

We did have some threads on vbulletin-germany.com where non-english-speaking users were told (with a link) to download a hack on vb.org and they told us that they can't manage with the english forum.

Why do you think there is vb-germany.com? Right, cause there are many german useres out there so the conclusion is to start a german-speaking-hack-support-forum like vbhacks-germany.

Did you see any german support thread here on vb.org or do you think english speaking users on vb.org accept support threads only in german?

I don't think so

Think of it . . .
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Perhaps your not seeing my point. They haven't got to come here for support, just to download the modifications. Offer any support you like at your site, providing my modification is not posted as an attachment on your site and is only downloadable from here
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Originally Posted by Dean C
That's fine Hellraider, but just translate the phrases into an XML file, don't go taking all our code and redistributing it I can't see anyone with having a problem with providing just XML files and a link to download the modification from vB.org!
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Perhaps your not seeing my point. They haven't got to come here for support, just to download the modifications. Offer any support you like at your site, providing my modification is not posted as an attachment on your site and is only downloadable from here
these two posts basically sum up my attitude regarding the matter.
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