How to deal with scammer?

[Shelley_c]

Originally Posted by Magnumutz

Are you sure you want me to blame you for all the scams i've fell in?
Cuz you'd have to pay quite a few bucks

Hell yeah, blame me. Anything went wrong for you today? or the past 7 days? if so, blame me again for that. Girlfriend dump you? cheat on you? yup. you know where the blame lies there.

Anything that ever went wrong for you, you just do the right thing, and pass the blame over to me and I'll take full responsibility.

How much do I owe you? Sorry for the the bad english, I'm english. :erm:

[Magnumutz]

You're so funny Shelley

[lasto]

Originally Posted by vietfancy

He tool the project 12 days ago, and wanted me to pay 1/3 upfront which i did. I paid 80usd/240.

Now that he give the some nulled/rip off/incompleted script. I asked for my money back and he refuses to, and walked away.

What should i do?

I paid via Paypal.

We dont know both sides of the story - he could of delivered the goods and somehow u installed it wrong.Best to try and sort it out amongst yourselfs and see if you can come to some agreement. Remember one thing : Your on your own should anything go wrong.

[popowich]

Originally Posted by UKBusinessLive

NEVER PAY MONEY UP FRONT, IF YOU DO THEN YOU MUST BE PREPARED TO LOSE IT

This is not a solution to the problem with scammers any more than prepayment is a solution for the honest workers. It comes down to doing work with people that you trust and have a good reputation. Now that there have been so many problems with scammers on this site vB owners are less willing to prepay even small amounts to honest workers for their work. What is to stop someone from always wanting "one more thing" before they consider a job complete and making their payment? The honest workers need a place on the site to be featured so they can be separated from the noise. How about a Featured Workers section under the paid work requests forum?

-Raymond

[Magnumutz]

Like popowich said, encouraging people to not pay anything upfront, would be a disaster, at least for me, i don't take jobs from people that i don't know and won't pay anything upfront, at least 50%.

My older clients, that i've got trust in, i don't ask this, they can pay me after everything is done, but new guys don't inspire too much trust for me.

[lasto]

Originally Posted by Magnumutz

Like popowich said, encouraging people to not pay anything upfront, would be a disaster, at least for me, i don't take jobs from people that i don't know and won't pay anything upfront, at least 50%.

My older clients, that i've got trust in, i don't ask this, they can pay me after everything is done, but new guys don't inspire too much trust for me.

i dont mind paying upfront but sometimes this is where the problem is.
You cant hire someone to do a job unless u pay upfront so whats the solution here ?

[popowich]

Anything $50 and under you should be able to get up front.

For larger projects I think 1/2 up front and 1/2 when 50% or 100% done with the project is fair.

If the worker does not have any references they'll just have to deal with not getting paid until they have completed the project and built up a list of happy clients.

It's on the worker in this case to check the owners reputation and references for past work that they have paid for.

If the is still not enough trust I'd think at least one of the parties involved has not done their homework.

Perhaps a 3rd party escrow service would be the answer in this case?

-Raymond

[UKBusinessLive]

Originally Posted by popowich

Anything $50 and under you should be able to get up front.

For larger projects I think 1/2 up front and 1/2 when 50% or 100% done with the project is fair.

If the worker does not have any references they'll just have to deal with not getting paid until they have completed the project and built up a list of happy clients.

It's on the worker in this case to check the owners reputation and references for past work that they have paid for.

If the is still not enough trust I'd think at least one of the parties involved has not done their homework.

Perhaps a 3rd party escrow service would be the answer in this case?

-Raymond

Words of wisdom, well done Raymond

[silvermerc]

Iv paid upfront for modifications and they have gone fine :P

[Magnumutz]

Originally Posted by lasto

i dont mind paying upfront but sometimes this is where the problem is.
You cant hire someone to do a job unless u pay upfront so whats the solution here ?

The solution, you ask?
Ask for references and actually check them.
Look around the forum, see what kind of user you are dealing with.