Angry .Orgers

[Zachery]

Originally Posted by Neutral Singh

Let me take myself as an average example. i have around 60 cool plugins installed for my forums for FREE.

Now, imagine all of them are paid...

That would force me to shell out a whopping (60 plugin x $30 (at least)) ==> US$1800 per annum, which literally means that poor webmasters like myself, wont never be able to enjoy most of the coolest products anymore...

I think, i would ideally stick with vB.org's present policy of only encouraging FREE community of hackers. Coders with paid PRO versions can always advertise their products in their signatures as presently being done by many. I see no problem with that.

phpBB is free, why ain't ya using it?
ontop of that, its got thousands and thousands of mods and addons that are also free, why ain't ya using that them too?

Did magicly we relize somewhere along the way that sometimes paid is better, and comes with better things?

Free addons will never stop, but neither will paid ones, we (the staff of .org) might as well take advantage of the situtation by allowing coders who want to "advertise" their sites on .org. If its styles / hacks / etc, even if its just a site listing.

[MPDev]

Isn't the title on this site "The Ultimate vB Resource"?

Shouldn't that maybe read "The Ultimate Free vB Resource"? I mean, since you explictly limit the types of resources that can be posted, can you really, truely claim "ultimate" status?

After all, "ultimate" means "incapable of further analysis, division, or separation". When you ignore/hide/prevent the growing community of professional add-ons, I think you can no longer claim "ultimate" status.

[FASherman]

Originally Posted by Boofo

As far as users being able to find commercial addons, there doesn't seem to be any problem with them finding them if they want them. There are a few commercial add-ons that are doing very well, and they don't advertise here.

I disagree. Its very difficult finding commercial add-ons and then sorting through them to find out which ones are good quality and which ones aren't. You can't rely on a coder's own support site because he/she has total control of what is and isn't viewable by the public.

We do need a information clearinghouse for commerical add-ons. One where the people who haved used it can rate it and comment on it. Maybe VB.Org isn't the place for it. Fine, I can live with that. But the idea that "most people want free stuff so its a bad idea" is ludicrous.

Think back to when IPB was free and VB was commercial. Recall every argument in favor of VB over IPB. How do those arguments not justify commercial add-ons over FOC add-ons with dubious support on irregular release schedules?

Geek, I absolutely love the idea of vbprofessional.com, especially if it not only is an area that provides consolidated access to commcerial add-ons but also provides a method to bid out jobs similar to GetAFreelancer.Com.

[EasyTarget]

Originally Posted by Zachery

phpBB is free, why ain't ya using it?
ontop of that, its got thousands and thousands of mods and addons that are also free, why ain't ya using that them too?

Did magicly we relize somewhere along the way that sometimes paid is better, and comes with better things?

Free addons will never stop, but neither will paid ones, we (the staff of .org) might as well take advantage of the situtation by allowing coders who want to "advertise" their sites on .org. If its styles / hacks / etc, even if its just a site listing.

maybe he saved up for vbulletin. And vbulletin has lots of mods and addons that are also free, he is using them (60 as he said).

I know you're just trying to make a point, but don't try to twist his post around to help you. He never said he only used free stuff, just simply that if everything cost money it'd be harder for him to add mods to his board.

[jward]

@cinq:

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[Zachery]

Originally Posted by EasyTarget

maybe he saved up for vbulletin. And vbulletin has lots of mods and addons that are also free, he is using them (60 as he said).

I know you're just trying to make a point, but don't try to twist his post around to help you. He never said he only used free stuff, just simply that if everything cost money it'd be harder for him to add mods to his board.

I'm using it as a comparsion tool, nothing else. I'm not trying to twist things. Which I could do, but I won't.

I'm trying to point out the fact that some products are not free, and generally this is acompanied by a more dedicated level of support and updates.

[MPDev]

Geek, I absolutely love the idea of vbprofessional.com

Yeah, actually, that was my idea.

[FASherman]

Originally Posted by MPDev

Yeah, actually, that was my idea.

Much love to whoever came up with it and anyone who supports it.

[The Geek]

Maybe the only way forward is a co-op venture of coders to create a community where coders can advertise their services, sell their products and post their free modifications (essentially what vb.org should do). My only concern is that if that community were to take off, it would render .org totally useless.

Maybe if we could get a clear consensus on the direction Jelsoft would like to go, we could axe the concept or at least see if other developers are in for a joint venture. It's not like this discussion has come up out of the blue - this has been going on for months now. If the issue doesn't get gently pushed to a decision I am afraid it may fall into the typical "the team is discussing this" vortex where no decision will ever come back out alive.

Thanks

Originally Posted by MPDev

Yeah, actually, that was my idea.

hehe. wouldnt be the first time Ive knicked one of his ideas :devious:

[MPDev]

That's funny, it wasn't there yesterday, seems someone took the idea and registered it.

I'll expect my royalities in the form of a cashiers check.