Is Cloudflare promoting terrorism?

[BirdOPrey5]

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[TheLastSuperman]

Originally Posted by BirdOPrey5

But terrorism is different. I would eat Pizza at a Pizza Place that is own by a gay couple. I would eat Pizza at a Pizza Place owned by a Christian against gay marriage. I would not buy Pizza at a Pizza Place actively support ISIS or Al Qaeda.

Making their websites easier to access and more secure IS actively supporting those organizations.

Cloudflare takes a stance that is easy and cheap for them to take. I don't believe for a second they are as dedicated to free speech as they claim- it's just easy for them to do nothing about anything and try to say it's their philosophy. BS. If it was cheaper for them to shut down terror related sites, they would.

Not entirely, to actively support something you must be involved in it directly, cloudflare just sells a service. If we go about it in a strict manner such as this then shoot we might as well not use ANY host and close our sites down because we promote copyright infringement by paying a host who has clients that rip people off even though it might be 1% of their client base - point being its a fine line and ftards exist everywhere, using the same services and such you're privileged to use as well - terrorist are on trains, planes, buses and more - lets boycott it all! I'm against terrorism but to say just because someone sells a service that they support or side with those purchasing said service is not my line of thinking but to each their own, why I love folks we're all different and sometimes you all open my eyes to different ways of thinking, always appreciate that .

[Paul M]

How are they "promoting" it ?
Are their some banners somewhere ? or are they doing some kind of publicity about it ?

There is a difference between a business simply doing what its supposed to do (sell its services) and them actively promoting somethng.

The only issue here seems to be whether they are breaking the law, if so, then they need to act.

[BirdOPrey5]

Lending your services to an organization that is a front for ISIS is supporting terrorism. The purpose of those websites is to promote ISIS, their views and their organization. The goal is to get westerners to come fight for ISIS.

Even if Cloudflare only makes it easier for someone to get to their content, they are helping promote terrorism.

Without Cloudflare the poor servers ISIS would otherwise have access to would be offline and/or overloaded more easily.

With Cloudflare they are able to get their message out to more people without downtime.

How are they not promoting terrorism?

[SaN-DeeP]

Lending your services to an organization that is a front for ISIS is supporting terrorism.
Even if Cloudflare only makes it easier for someone to get to their content, they are helping promote terrorism.

Just +1 this, my original comment probably did not get posted meant same...

[final kaoss]

Originally Posted by BirdOPrey5

Lending your services to an organization that is a front for ISIS is supporting terrorism. The purpose of those websites is to promote ISIS, their views and their organization. The goal is to get westerners to come fight for ISIS.

Even if Cloudflare only makes it easier for someone to get to their content, they are helping promote terrorism.

Without Cloudflare the poor servers ISIS would otherwise have access to would be offline and/or overloaded more easily.

With Cloudflare they are able to get their message out to more people without downtime.

How are they not promoting terrorism?

They're hosting the sites content, cloudflare themselves are not encouraging people to make or follow these sites. That's the terrorism sites themselves that do that part. That is how they aren't promoting terrorism. Hell dude don't act like your so damn blind as to what is really going on, just for the sake of continuing an argument.

I think that what you should be asking instead is why is their host provider not taking down their sites? You know the people that actually host the site on a vps and provide them with ftp, shell access etc. Yeah I think you should be looking at them instead. In reality, they are what allows the site to stay online, with or without a CDN.

[BirdOPrey5]

The hosts themselves can be in ISIS controlled territory. We're not policing the internet itself- I think that is far more radical to be honest.

Cloudflare is a western company doing business in the United States and other "Western" nations. They are aiding an abetting an enemy that would behead their employees, their families, and their children given the chance.

[TheLastSuperman]

We will all be just fine, from what I've read Isis already pissed off Anonymous so here soon enough one radical group will take out the other lol.

[Zachery]

Sometimes you have to wonder if a company is not doing something because its working with law enforcement.

[RichieBoy67]

Originally Posted by Zachery

Sometimes you have to wonder if a company is not doing something because its working with law enforcement.

I was thinking the same thing. Perhaps there is a reason these sites have not been taken down by the goverment.