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BirdOPrey5 05-13-2015 04:10 PM

Is Cloudflare promoting terrorism?
 
Was looking through open petitions today on whitehouse.gov and found this: https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pet...ting-terrorism

Quote:

File Criminal Charges Against Cloudflare for promoting terrorism

Cloudflare Inc is in violation of US CODE 2339A.

Cloudflare Inc. is hosting over 50 ISIS related propaganda websites. The evidence is right in front of them. Yet the group refuses to act and instead takes money from criminals in return for hacking and server protection for the ISIS websites. Please act now, and file criminal charges on the orginization for supporting terrorism.

#CloudflareSupportsISIS
I know Cloudflare like to think they can absolve themselves of responsibility of what they "host" but they shouldn't get a pass any more than any other host.

Dave 05-13-2015 08:14 PM

They also "host" a bunch of booters (DDoS services), blackhat forums and other fishy sites/forums.
Here's a blog post of Cloudflare regarding stuff like this: https://blog.cloudflare.com/cloudflare-and-free-speech/

blind-eddie 05-13-2015 08:53 PM

And our government requires a petition to be signed by 10000 citizens before it will take action?

BirdOPrey5 05-13-2015 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blind-eddie (Post 2545475)
And our government requires a petition to be signed by 10000 citizens before it will take action?

100,000 and action isn't guaranteed... in fact it almost never happens, but someone in the white house will make an official comment at least.

blind-eddie 05-13-2015 11:46 PM

I missed a zero...We live in the most corrupt country in the world. Sad...

TheLastSuperman 05-14-2015 08:42 PM

You all act as if this should shock most?! Money makes the world go round' as they say and no matter how cloudflare goes about it you all compromise in some form or another everyday.

Eat Chick-fil-a? What about their stance on Gay Marriage? Either you're for or against it, either way if you make a purchase you just swallowed your pride no matter which side you stand on.
Purchase at Hobby Lobby? What about their stance on abortion? Same thing here, for or against it... if hobby lobby has what you need and you can't get it elsewhere and you purchase... well then what say you now?

No one likes to swallow their pride unless they feel comfortable doing so. Don't hate "cloudflare" but certainly continue to hate Isis as that's YOUR prerogative to do so.

My point is, justifying something makes it so others can live with it, everyone is different and everyone has a right to their own beliefs. I seriously doubt anyone at cloudflare has a secret room with a red phone using a dedicated line to the Batcave to promote terrorism - IF thats what anyone else was wondering, the answer is no and more than likely the only person in the world with a real working red phone would be Adam West :p.

BirdOPrey5 05-14-2015 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLastSuperman (Post 2545515)
You all act as if this should shock most?! Money makes the world go round' as they say and no matter how cloudflare goes about it you all compromise in some form or another everyday.

Eat Chick-fil-a? What about their stance on Gay Marriage? Either you're for or against it, either way if you make a purchase you just swallowed your pride no matter which side you stand on.
Purchase at Hobby Lobby? What about their stance on abortion? Same thing here, for or against it... if hobby lobby has what you need and you can't get it elsewhere and you purchase... well then what say you now?

No one likes to swallow their pride unless they feel comfortable doing so. Don't hate "cloudflare" but certainly continue to hate Isis as that's YOUR prerogative to do so.

My point is, justifying something makes it so others can live with it, everyone is different and everyone has a right to their own beliefs. I seriously doubt anyone at cloudflare has a secret room with a red phone using a dedicated line to the Batcave to promote terrorism - IF thats what anyone else was wondering, the answer is no and more than likely the only person in the world with a real working red phone would be Adam West :p.

Reasonable people can have different opinions on abortions, gay marriage, and all the political issues of the day. I'm not one to call for a boycott every time a company makes a decision that doesn't agree with my politics.

But terrorism is different. I would eat Pizza at a Pizza Place that is own by a gay couple. I would eat Pizza at a Pizza Place owned by a Christian against gay marriage. I would not buy Pizza at a Pizza Place actively support ISIS or Al Qaeda.

Making their websites easier to access and more secure IS actively supporting those organizations.

Cloudflare takes a stance that is easy and cheap for them to take. I don't believe for a second they are as dedicated to free speech as they claim- it's just easy for them to do nothing about anything and try to say it's their philosophy. BS. If it was cheaper for them to shut down terror related sites, they would.

ozzy47 05-14-2015 09:09 PM

I agree Joe, there comes a point where money is not the issue, your morals should take over.

final kaoss 05-14-2015 10:15 PM

At the least they could follow DMCA takedown requests so that such sites aren't using their cdn anymore. Much like google had to do with takedown requests regarding torrent sites they indexed.

SaN-DeeP 05-15-2015 06:05 PM

Sorry.. but I made a comment.reply and was removed
OR
got failed to add here.. Will add again in case.

Kindly remove this message if my response failed to get added.


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