Poll: Should .org have a section for paid add-ons?

[Ski-Whiz]

Superfly,

you obviously are some kid who has no clue what I'm saying!

Don't get mad at me for expressing my point. If you don't like my opinion, don't ATTACK me!

Get a life, and most of all, get a job!

Coding is done for fun. Coders do everyone a great service by offering their hacks.

The ones that hurt the community are the ones that try to make a buck off it!

Most people including myself, have donated to coders, as the person who doesn't ask for money, are the ones that get it.

You are new to this community, and don't know the whole picture, so do me a favor, and stay out of peoples OPINIONS!!

[MRGTB]

Originally Posted by SuperFly

That right there, shows how ungrateful you are to coders, * Edited due to inflammatory remark.

Please remember that people are mainly voting against payed hacks being offered here (nothing to do with anybody being ungrateful). For example, I voted "NO because my feeling are.

If a good coder wants to create some of his hacks to sell. Thats great, but I voted no because I think they can do this from there own sites (advertised in there signature). Were they could probably give better support as a whole for payed users of there hacks anyway. My feeling were that vB.org should remain a site dedicated to free hacks only. And let hacker own sites deal with there paid hack they have to offer.

[tnguy3n]

Originally Posted by Ski-Whiz

Coding is done for fun. Coders do everyone a great service by offering their hacks.

Reason why I voted no.

[Revan]

Originally Posted by Gary Bolton

Please remember that people are mainly voting against payed hacks being offered here (nothing to do with anybody being ungrateful). For example, I voted "NO because my feeling are.

If a good coder wants to create some of his hacks to sell. Thats great, but I voted no because I think they can do this from there own sites (advertised in there signature). Were they could probably give better support as a whole for payed users of there hacks anyway. My feeling were that vB.org should remain a site dedicated to free hacks only. And let hacker own sites deal with there paid hack they have to offer.

And if you had bothered to understand the concept of this poll, you would have understood that vBulletin.org would in no way host or support these modifications. vBulletin.org would have a directory of links to such sites, Apart from removing sites that are confirmed as scamming sites or other illegal entries, vBulletin.org would in no way be responsible for these modifications.
Your attitude is what annoys me extremely. "*sees the word 'paid'* Ohs noes! Abomination! *votes no* They should only be allowed to advertise using links!". Well guess what, THAT'S THE SUGGESTION!

[The Geek]

Originally Posted by Boofo

So money makes a difference in how well you code or support your product? I have to disagree as they are many well-coded and well-supported free hacks right here on the org.

Not in every case, but most certainly in MANY hence the reason I used the word.

I'm sure Boofo that you only take your car to mechanics that don't charge anything and work sporadically throughout the month. I'm sure when it comes time to style your coiffure that you ask around your neighborhood to find someone that likes to cut and style hair as a hobby on a Tuesday evening as long as they haven't seen that nights rerun of Nash Bridges.

Why do you seem to think that professional coders do shoddy work and give no support? People who get paid to do a job generally do it better otherwise they wouldn't get paid for the job. Sure its not a universal rule - but if I wanted a plumber, I would pay a professional rather than a that guys down the street that put in a toilet once and is willing to help me for free. Buying professional doesn't mean that I cant get stung - but in my experience I am usually far more satisfied with the job done.

Lets face it - if a script sucks, isn't supported, etc... IT WONT SELL. Thats one of the reasons why I am behind a directory of commercial scripts (that link off site) but one where people could rate (yes, that can be complex, but valuable).

Anyway - for Petes sake people, if you dont want it - you dont have to use the freaking thing!

And yes, I fully agree that there are a lot of great FOC hacks that are also well supported here, however I would also add that I think they are a huge amount that are not.

[Paul M]

I see this topic has fallen to the level of people attacking each other. Perhaps a sigh of what would happen if this change were made ...

[The Geek]

Originally Posted by Paul M

I see this topic has fallen to the level of people attacking each other. Perhaps a sigh of what would happen if this change were made ...

Its not like this site is clean of people attacking each other now! In fact, that was the reason this whole thing came - people attacking coders that released stuff free!

Regardless, you're right - it shouldn't get personal.

[Boofo]

Originally Posted by The Geek

Not in every case, but most certainly in MANY hence the reason I used the word.

I'm sure Boofo that you only take your car to mechanics that don't charge anything and work sporadically throughout the month. I'm sure when it comes time to style your coiffure that you ask around your neighborhood to find someone that likes to cut and style hair as a hobby on a Tuesday evening as long as they haven't seen that nights rerun of Nash Bridges.

Why do you seem to think that professional coders do shoddy work and give no support? People who get paid to do a job generally do it better otherwise they wouldn't get paid for the job. Sure its not a universal rule - but if I wanted a plumber, I would pay a professional rather than a that guys down the street that put in a toilet once and is willing to help me for free. Buying professional doesn't mean that I cant get stung - but in my experience I am usually far more satisfied with the job done.

Lets face it - if a script sucks, isn't supported, etc... IT WONT SELL. Thats one of the reasons why I am behind a directory of commercial scripts (that link off site) but one where people could rate (yes, that can be complex, but valuable).

Anyway - for Petes sake people, if you dont want it - you dont have to use the freaking thing!

And yes, I fully agree that there are a lot of great FOC hacks that are also well supported here, however I would also add that I think they are a huge amount that are not.

Analogies don't work on this one, sorry. They are getting a bit tiring.

The ones that DON'T want this here are also the ones that don't want the headaches it will bring on trying to police a situation that we don't have any control over in the first place. There is still going to be disgruntled customers who will believe that we had a hand in their misery due to us allowing (or recommending as most of them will see it) the hacks or even links here because they think we allowed them to get taken. We will be up to our ears in the "he said this", "he didn't deliver this" sort of thing and we have enough of it going on already.

As a matter of fact, without naming names, there are plenty of free hacks on here that outweigh some of the paid ones we have all seen around in both time taken to code and the sheer support of them. And these authors aren't complaining they need to make money off of the masses to survive.

If you all want to make the almighty dollar, then I hope you succeed, every one of you. But you do NOT need to org to do it. The bad from something like that will far outweigh the good every time. There are just some phone books that some things should never be allowed to be advertised or sold in and the org is one of them.

[The Geek]

Originally Posted by Boofo

Analogies don't work on this one, sorry. They are getting a bit tiring.

Then I guess nothing will work for you. Analogies, polls, discussion, etc... kill it all just because you think its 'bad'. Digging ones heels in and saying its 'bad' isnt very contructive and doesnt help come up with solutions that customers are asking for.

Geekious say "Try being more optimistic and good karma will come your way"

[Boofo]

Originally Posted by The Geek

Then I guess nothing will work for you. Analogies, polls, discussion, etc... kill it all just because you think its 'bad'. Digging ones heels in and saying its 'bad' isnt very contructive and doesnt help come up with solutions that customers are asking for.

Geekious say "Try being more optimistic and good karma will come your way"

I wish I could be optomistic about all of it, but you don't see what goes on behind the scenes because of things like this.

And let's be honest, it is more what you and the other commercial authors are looking for than what the customers want. They don't seem to have any problems finding your commercial hacks now, right?

Digging one's heels in if they go with there beliefs and expieriences (sp?), is not really bad, is it?

And please don't take this personally. It is not intended that way.