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Old 10-17-2005, 04:53 AM
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For non-projects, I think I'll stick with PHP Designer 2005; I just wish it had code folding + the tabs weren't buggy.

For projects, I'm still not sure, right now I'm going between Zend and TruStudio. TS is starting to grow on me, I just don't like the fact you can't code fold all control structures, and it is pretty confusing... for me at least.

So far I'd say Zend is the best all in one solution (TruStudio doesn't support other web languages that I need nor can it run SQL [that I could find anyway])...

By the way, TruStudio runs very fast on my machine, it is java based too. filburt, why are you traumatized by other PHP editors? Also, have you looked at PHP Designer?

I figure I'll upgrade around Christmas time.
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Old 10-17-2005, 04:54 AM
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http://crimsoneditor.com/ for me
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Old 10-17-2005, 10:29 AM
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Old 10-17-2005, 12:21 PM
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Zend Studio, but I determined it's garbage after playing with Eclipse some more. I have yet to find a PHP IDE editor that isn't crap compared to editors available for Java like Eclipse. I'm using Dreamweaver 8 right now, mainly because (1) I'm too traumatized to try other PHP editors, and (2) I'm doing a lot of side-by-side HTML/CSS and PHP editing.

edit: Dreamweaver 8 supports manual code folding, sort of (it doesn't really read document structure, you have to select text). Also, Zend Studio is written in Java which inexperienced developers think is overly slow. Any computer from the last three years runs Java IDEs nice and fast with enough RAM (any major IDE needs a lot of RAM). Any computer made recently, you can't really tell the difference between native and virtual machine code.

That 1.2 GHz processor is what is killing you. 2 GHz minimum, unless it's a Pentium M. You should also have 1 GB of RAM for serious development. I have 1 GB (would have two, but already used all four slots) on my desktop and my tablet has 1.5 GB of RAM (OneNote eats RAM like there's no tomorrow, and being a developer doesn't help).
I do like eclipse - It's "Quickfix" feature is handy when you get stuck on Java

I should have said that "I was unaware of anydecent program that performs that function"

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Old 10-17-2005, 02:59 PM
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By the way, TruStudio runs very fast on my machine, it is java based too. filburt, why are you traumatized by other PHP editors? Also, have you looked at PHP Designer?
I have yet to use an IDE for months on end without wanting to smash my keyboard at the random stupid things it does. For Zend Studio, it was a lot of bugs. The worst one was it would randomly outdent an entire block of code, destroying the first four characters of each line in the process.

PHP Designer looks interesting. I'll try it out.
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Old 10-17-2005, 05:19 PM
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Edit Plus2 for me
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Old 10-17-2005, 06:11 PM
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TextPad on PC. So far I have used TextWrangler on Mac, but I'm now switching to TextMate.
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Old 10-17-2005, 06:21 PM
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Crimson was good for a while, but UltraEdit-32 is the best IMHO.
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Old 10-17-2005, 06:28 PM
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I'll check out Crimson and UltraEdit too, it seems they are popular.

IMO the default settings are terrible on PHP Designer, they take some tweaking to be bearable, for me anyway.

About Zend, you can't really say it is terrible, it has some features no other programs has, and for that I'll still use it in certain scenarios; regardless of the bugs.
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Old 10-17-2005, 07:39 PM
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You might want to check here: http://www.php-editors.com/

Nice site with pretty much all the php editors out there

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