yes it's not the header.. her is a copy of my template..
PHP Code:
<center>
<table id="Table_01" width="900" height="171" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
<tr>
<td colspan="2" rowspan="2">
<img style="vertical-align: bottom;" src="images/fammo1/ssv2_01.gif" width="248" height="112" alt=""></td>
<td colspan="2">
<img style="vertical-align: bottom;" src="images/fammo1/ssv2_02.gif" width="411" height="86" alt=""></td>
<td>
<img style="vertical-align: bottom;" src="images/fammo1/ssv2_03.gif" width="241" height="86" alt=""></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>
<img style="vertical-align: bottom;" src="images/fammo1/ssv2_04.gif" width="142" height="26" alt=""></td>
<td colspan="2" rowspan="2" align="middle" BACKGROUND="images/fammo1/ssv2_05.gif">
<script type="text/javascript"><!--
google_ad_client = "pub-1807386139388891";
google_ad_width = 468;
google_ad_height = 60;
google_ad_format = "468x60_as";
google_ad_type = "text_image";
google_ad_channel ="";
google_color_border = ["990000","151515","73BD1E","043A56"];
google_color_bg = ["101c32","151515","73BD1E","043A56"];
google_color_link = ["000000","73BD1E","151515","FF6600"];
google_color_url = ["ffcc00","FFFFFF","FFFFFF","FFFFFF"];
google_color_text = ["FFFFFF","FFFFFF","FFFFFF","FFFFFF"];
//--></script>
<script type="text/javascript"
src="http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/show_ads.js">
</script>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>
<img style="vertical-align: bottom;" src="images/fammo1/ssv2_06.gif" width="35" height="58" alt=""></td>
<td colspan="2">
<img style="vertical-align: bottom;" src="images/fammo1/ssv2_07.gif" width="355" height="58" alt=""></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>
<img style="vertical-align: bottom;" src="images/fammo1/spacer.gif" width="35" height="1" alt=""></td>
<td>
<img style="vertical-align: bottom;" src="images/fammo1/spacer.gif" width="213" height="1" alt=""></td>
<td>
<img style="vertical-align: bottom;" src="images/fammo1/spacer.gif" width="142" height="1" alt=""></td>
<td>
<img style="vertical-align: bottom;" src="images/fammo1/spacer.gif" width="269" height="1" alt=""></td>
<td>
<img style="vertical-align: bottom;" src="images/fammo1/spacer.gif" width="241" height="1" alt=""></td>
</tr>
</table>
</center>
</center>
<!-- content table -->
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everything seems to be fine until I add the table? I am going to use flash in my header so I'm using broken images... weird thing is when I delete everything out of the header the top margin goes to zero?