Suggestions for commercial scripts

[Adrian Schneider]

Originally Posted by Paul M

Maybe I missed something, but i thought the whole point of vb.org was for people to share hacks for FREE. I do not believe paid hacks have any place here. Simple as that to me.

I mostly agree, it is not up to Jelsoft to setup a website for others to pay for modifications to their product. I believe a simple listing (along with a user rating system perhaps?) would suffice.

[AN-net]

Originally Posted by SirAdrian

I mostly agree, it is not up to Jelsoft to setup a website for others to pay for modifications to their product. I believe a simple listing (along with a user rating system perhaps?) would suffice.

yeah but a rating/review system would prove nothing as we see with Amazon and many other shopping sites. the company/producer goes on and writes a good review for the software/book/whatever even though its completely bias.

[The Geek]

Originally Posted by AN-net

yeah but a rating/review system would prove nothing as we see with Amazon and many other shopping sites. the company/producer goes on and writes a good review for the software/book/whatever even though its completely bias.

Thats why I was suggesting that only somone that purcahses an item should be able to rate it. THat way you get away from squiffed results.

Sad thing is that I guess it would be too complicated to do (though I would argue that).

[Marco van Herwaarden]

Originally Posted by The Geek

Thats why I was suggesting that only somone that purcahses an item should be able to rate it. THat way you get away from squiffed results.

What would keep a company from 'buying' there own products, so they can leave a rating? It will not cost them anything, since they make the payment to themself.

[Adrian Schneider]

A rating system IMO should be a small part, we should focus on a simple listing first. If you are worried about a rating thing (which can obviously be abused) leave it out. People can go look at the product themselves and decide for themself.

[KW802]

After having read all 7 pages of this thread....

Any type of "rating" or "comment" system would be a horrible, horrible, horrible idea. Just do a search for phrases like "portal suggestion" or "gallery suggestion", both here and at vb.com, and you can see what starts out innocently enough turns into a ugly mess. Not to mention that fact that it would introduce a factor of liability for Jelsoft if somebody was to leave false and/or libelous feedback about a product or service.

- Having a 3rd party directory of products & service providers is a good idea.

- Having either a Jelsoft certification process or a Jelsoft program that charges a fee (kind of like a "Jelsoft Partners Program") to prevent obvious spamming of links is a good idea.

- Having the directory on one of the existing vB.xxx sites is a good idea.

- Having any type of rating or comment system is a very bad idea. aranoid:

Somebody mentioned a product like vBa Links would serve the job... I agree, as long as the rating and comments options were turned off. :ermm:

[spence2]

A simple listing of 3rd party services need not be so complicated! All that would be required is a simple disclaimer stating that Jelsoft is not affiliated and does not warranty products/services available on this list.

It's not rocket science!

Now, certification is a different thing ... with all sorts of implied warranty issues. Let's say XYZZ is certified by Jelsoft and produces a script that later is revealed to have security issues. If that script has caused anyone severe financial or other losses, it is not unreasonable to believe that Jelsoft could find itself in a legal quagmire based on it's certification (implied warranty) of XYZZ.

Why make a simple thing so all-fired complicated?

[Wayne Luke]

Originally Posted by AN-net

yeah but a rating/review system would prove nothing as we see with Amazon and many other shopping sites. the company/producer goes on and writes a good review for the software/book/whatever even though its completely bias.

IN your example. Amazon clearly differentiates between Publisher/Editor/Critic comments and general public comments. In Amazon's case, they contact the publisher for a synopsis of the product when they post it. This sells products.

Customer reviews are listed separately and moderated.

[AN-net]

Originally Posted by Wayne Luke

IN your example. Amazon clearly differentiates between Publisher/Editor/Critic comments and general public comments. In Amazon's case, they contact the publisher for a synopsis of the product when they post it. This sells products.

Customer reviews are listed separately and moderated.

yeah but we all know that some of those reviews are fake>_>

[KW802]

Originally Posted by spence2

Now, certification is a different thing ... with all sorts of implied warranty issues. Let's say XYZZ is certified by Jelsoft and produces a script that later is revealed to have security issues. If that script has caused anyone severe financial or other losses, it is not unreasonable to believe that Jelsoft could find itself in a legal quagmire based on it's certification (implied warranty) of XYZZ.

You're assuming too much. Just because Jelsoft "certifies" that a script (or service or anything else) goes by it's standards it doesn't assume the liability if anything goes wrong with it. It's just like Microsoft certified partners or any other companie's "Certified Partners" programs.... if the partner gets in trouble Microsoft (or whatever company) has nothing to do with it.

Personally I like the idea of either a certificiation process or at least a fee based partnership program (eg: like with Microsoft where if you become a certified partner you can display their logo, etc.) because it'll help to seperate the partners who are just trying to make a quick buck from a quickie hack versus the people who are running a business.