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Old 08-02-2005, 10:27 AM
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what an intresting thread this was, why did it have to go on so long? what is it about coders and a lack of people skills

first off i'd like to state that i'd much rather see a team of people validating xhtml then code and second of all i'd like to say this thread waws rather trollopish.

while in essense what's being suggested is a nice idea, theirs nothing stopping anyone from offering the author assistance via pm, do you know how much it bugs me when i have to install a hack where the existing code is like \t\t\t\t\t in on the page and then the hack is just \t if that, but go all medievil on someone because they didn't do a line break in the right place is just wrong.

it's weird as i'm one of the folks that started here unable to code and gradually got better by putting out ++++ty code. see it works like this, you set out to do something you accomplish it, people appreciate it and you try for something bigger and better, that's how coding works for me, if i hadn't put out this then i wouldn't have tried for that and if i hadn't have tried for that then i wouldn't have had to learn that and so on and so forth, now my coding style is ALOT better, though i've not managed to build anything to showcase it but being ranks off of something that i done a while ago and improved upon isn't right.

if you're going to change peoples code for them they're not going to learn, infact the only way to learn is to let them grow as a coder, so in saying that i beleive that in the same way some strive for XHTML validated or Master Coder you should have the option to strive for vB.org PHP validated, however why this couldn't be done by simply uploading something allowing it to be checked automatically i don't see why not?

in all honesty i checked so see what DV was advising and of course the brinn *cough* i mean the lack of people skills in his approach let him down, and to say that a trinary operator makes the code better than a normal conditional is ludicrous, and things like that need to be avoided.

i do wonder though, for all the people looking to take those elevated positions, how often are you found in the PHP forum helping out the coders who are begging for help? i do find it strange that everyone's so willing to criticise code yet...meh

i also thing this would be a good chance to resuggest the open source forum.

Actually i've just remembered me and when i was first coding and my personal preference was if(condition){ but i needed help quite a bit (nothing's changed there) but stefan said in order for him to read it it needed to be standardized so i had to get into if(condition)\n{ now it's my preference too, the biggest changes are made at ground level, if you're that big on standards then help the next generation to get into them.

blah blah blah, i've waffled on enough now.
 


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