This site...

[Wayne Luke]

Is there ever going to be any active leadership here or is it going to be allowed to waste away into nothingness? Really would like a straightforward answer from the admin of this site before I recommend having its official status pulled and the site removed from the vBulletin servers.

[SaintDog]

Wayne, please check your e-mail.

[Wayne Luke]

Regarding the email...

It is good that the site is going to expand its administration and will be able to move forward. Hopefully, there will be better cooperation with vBulletin.com and vBulletin.org in the future along with link backs to the other sites as well as an updated forum here.

In time, maybe the traffic will return.

[Brad]

We have had plans for awhile now wayne, John has just been real busy with his other projects, hopefully this place will be back to the site it was when I first came here soon

[SaintDog]

Yes, I do still have plans to revamp and upgrade the site, though my time has been limited more so than before during the past 2 months, 95% due to my business and me having to work around an odd schedule which is sometimes needed when running your own business.

I know I promised an upgrade and it will be delivered as soon as I have the time to do so. If brad is willing to do the upgrade, I will send him the vBulletin file and allow him access to go forward with such.

Faranth has been nice enough to port over the older vBT style so we will have something to use again should the current one not work as it should, so I wish to thank him very much for his contribution to the site.

Again, Wayne, I am sorry if you felt or still do fell that way about this site, though as in the e-mail, I really am doing my best, being that i am only one person and can get only so much done in a day .

[Lady Ginasue]

Saint Dog, I think that your doing a very good job on this site. People don't realize sometimes that there is life other than the boards and people get caught up with Real Life things and can't always be avaliable 24/7.

I figured from reading some of your posts that you have had a very busy schedule the last couple of months and that as soon as you had the time to sit down and do the upgrade that you would.

[Wayne Luke]

The issue isn't really one of your business. It is one of neglecting an obligation you made to the vBulletin Community. If you can't handle the time commitment needed for this community and the tens of thousands of vBulletin customers who would be referred to here, you should have transferred that commitment to another months ago or contacted Jelsoft and let us know about the situation. Instead you basically disappeared with no contact whatsoever. I do understand there was a problem with email but that should has been resolved and there still hasn't been any progress on this site.

Excuses are easy. Owning up to your commitments is where honor and dignity come from. Due to your negligence of this site, you have not only harmed this site but the vBulletin community which ensures the longetivity of this site. At this time, I don't think anyone is interested in anymore excuses but expect to see results. I see you have appointed another Administrator so that is a good step forward and hopefully will result in positive changes over the next week to bring this site back up to speed. Whether or not you personally have time to manage the site is irrelevant when there are people who can do it for you. Such a change should have been made 6 months ago when the general decay started here. However giving the benefit of the doubt, I haven't said anything until now.

I should add that overall, the staff here needs to be beefed up. Three moderators is hardly enough to manage a site such as this could become. There is no reason why this site is not as busy as vBulletin.org.

[CannonFodder]

why do you two have to go on about this on public boards? keep it to yourself. seriously, you both make yourselves and communities look bad by arguing over something that should be kept private.

[SaintDog]

Josh, I am not here to argue nor make excuses as depicted above, rather state the reasoning for my absence, whether it be understood by all or not.

I do not believe my absence from this site has done harm to the vBulletin product or site in general as we were not even linked to until a short while back, all traffic to the site was directed by way of word of mouth, through other members linking to the website, through search engines and the like.

While I am more than greatful for what Jelsoft/vBulletin has done for both myself and the website as a whole, I don't belive I am soley to blame for a lack of traffic, Wayne. As you can see from the posts here, the license system here is short of being 100% as it takes some members 1-2 days to even become noticed here at vBT, as opposed to it being instant at vBulletin.org; this is even with me running the link John provided to me to update the database.

A non-working system does deter users from visiting and does cut traffic and while I cannot say it is 100% non-working, users having to wait 1-2 days to become licensed on this site soley.

Now, I have said all I honestly can. I do apologize for the lack of updates and my leave of absence, but I am working the best I can to work on adding staff to the site and will continue to do so, but until the license system is working 100% as it *seems* to be at vBulletin.org and vBulletin.com, I don't believe I am the one soley to blame.

I will work to improve and upgrade the site, but again, as in the e-mail, if you feel John or James needs to e-mail me, they are free to do so.

[Wayne Luke]

Originally Posted by iHCF

why do you two have to go on about this on public boards? keep it to yourself. seriously, you both make yourselves and communities look bad by arguing over something that should be kept private.

The only reason this was brought out in public is because previous private attempts went un-noticed.

Nor do vBulletin team members have access to backstage areas of this site like we do at vBulletin.org in order to resolve issues such as a license system in a timely manner. It isn't so much as it works better on vBulletin.org or vBulletin.com but that it is managed daily.