Firefox 1.0 Final Released!

[Blam Forumz]

You mean FF doesnt supoprt non-standard css :P

Bah nothing much has changed since the PR.

Stupid silly little find bar is still there Cant they use a regular search bar?? -_-

FireFox 1.0 Full - Big disappointment

[Dean C]

Stefan your arguement lacks substance. If you use correct and valid html and know the tricks and flaws and how to fix them then it'll work fine. Standards pay off in the long-run. You'll see just like I have

[twoseven]

Originally Posted by Blam Forumz

You mean FF doesnt supoprt non-standard css :P

Bah nothing much has changed since the PR.

Stupid silly little find bar is still there Cant they use a regular search bar?? -_-

FireFox 1.0 Full - Big disappointment

i like the stupid silly little find bar i dont want a whole bar across my screen like that for the url and it sure makes googling/searching source forge alot quicker

[Xenon]

Originally Posted by Dean C

and know the tricks and flaws and how to fix them then it'll work fine

Well, that's true, but does not proof anything.
If you know the flaws then you can exploit them or fix them.
As long as those flaws exists in any browser, you can always write pages compliant along the standarts as currently EVERY browser has some problems on some standarts.

For example CSS2.0 is mostly impossible for IE right now.
as well as boxed table tags are horror for the other browsers.

also there are a few css1.0 flaws forin Firefox (if you need an example, look at the bug forum directly after the vb3.0.0 release. Boxed div tags in the postbit template made a little design problem on FF even so the code was absolutelly valid.)

As said, if you know the flaws you can create pages which look ok in one browser but horrible in another, but still is 100% valid

That's the real fun behind standards i think ^^

[deathemperor]

Originally Posted by Xenon

As said, if you know the flaws you can create pages which look ok in one browser but horrible in another, but still is 100% valid

then someone should tell the world just use one browser for coders to be safe....

[paulyy]

Standards. I love them, but Micro$oft are my biggest enemy and see it fit to destroy my web pages whilst rendering them.

Firefox or Opera are safe options for all users. Opera kind of annoys me but no way is it as bad as IE. Someone needs to create a virus that disables IE and installs Firefox.

[CarCdr]

Just installed. Nice. The main thing one notices is how fast it renders pages!

There are a few minor nits, but they are very likely the result of the IE non-standard (but familiar) behaviour. IE is the default standard, regardless of published standards, but I'll use this for regular browsing and test code with IE.

[Revan]

Originally Posted by CarCdr

and test code with IE.

Sir, it is attitudes like this that allows M$ Spyware Explorer to remain the "default standard". If every web developer would follow ACTUAL standards and code webpages for Firefox and other browsers, not only would we see an increased awareness that there's actually a safer and better alternative to IE, but we would also possibly see M$ making their browser Standards compliant.

For the above reasons, I will not visit your site under any circumstances. Period.

[Dean C]

Originally Posted by Revan

Sir, it is attitudes like this that allows M$ Spyware Explorer to remain the "default standard". If every web developer would follow ACTUAL standards and code webpages for Firefox and other browsers, not only would we see an increased awareness that there's actually a safer and better alternative to IE, but we would also possibly see M$ making their browser Standards compliant.

For the above reasons, I will not visit your site under any circumstances. Period.

Unfortunately that's not going to happen. Microsoft are more than aware of standards. The reason they are refusing to keep up to date is because they want people's websites to function correctly even if they aren't up to the latest standards. Too lazy to get the quote from the IE dev blog but to sum it up they want backwards compatiblity

[Andreas]

I agree with you Reavan. But if you run a business site you normally can't afford your site not being compatible with IE ...