Dreamweaver.. ARGH!!

[AN-net]

wordpad all da way ^.^

[Zachery]

Originally Posted by DrkFusion

Actually many professional web developers use it. In some firms it is a requirement to have the knowledge (if you is it or not is another case).

There are much better programs than dreamweaver that cost alot less.

[DarknessDivine]

Yeah.. at 23 years old Brian (Tigga) you really have a world of experience don't you?

There are many, many, many professionals using Dreamweaver. Obviously you're just not exposed to the high-end coding that takes place at some corporations.

I'm sure he's been exposed plenty..writes pretty great codes himself..IMO...maybe you've not been exposed to his? Just curious.

[Tigga]

Originally Posted by Jolten

Yeah.. at 23 years old Brian (Tigga) you really have a world of experience don't you?

There are many, many, many professionals using Dreamweaver. Obviously you're just not exposed to the high-end coding that takes place at some corporations.

Not as much as some I'm sure, but I have been doing web development, and pretty much nothing but, for quite a few years (since I was a teenager). Never have I seen a *profesional* company that used Dreamweaver or any similar programs to develop their sites. I have seen a few companies that have used programs like that, but I certainly wouldn't call them professional. I've worked for some rather large web development companies in the past and worked with clients for them such as Coca-Cola, Home Depot, Chick-Fil-A, and Tensar Corp (you may not be familiar with them, but they are a huge company around here and I did QUITE a bit of the work on their site). So I think it's safe to say that I've been exposed to some "high-end" coding.
And either way, that's just my opinion about the program and nothing more. I've never had a need for it and always thought it better to just do the code the good ol' fashoned way with a simple text editor and Photoshop. If it helps you out then great, take advantage of the tool. For me though, the few times I've used it, or been given a site to work on that used it, it took me more time to clean up the coding that the program put out than it would have for me just to write everything myself. A site may look good in the end result, but I still consider it crap if the coding is not done well.

[TECK]

Originally Posted by Tigga

Sorry, but using the word 'Dreamweaver' and 'professional' in the same sentence just sounds like an oxymoron to me. I've never seen a *professional* web developer that used Dreamweaver.

All professional coders in the company I work for (Bell.ca), use only Dreamweaver for programming.
Kier, from vB Team, also likes a lot the DW software, beside TextPad.
I guess is all related to what you are used to...
I personally like TextPad.

Regards,
Floren.

[Jolten]

I've been in the design industry for more than 15 years. And Web development end of that for at least 5, More often than not a professional company will rely on Dreamweaver in conjuction with a good text editor. It's a rare business anymroe that is willing to pay an employee to hand code everything when it can be done in 10 minutes via Dreamweaver.

In fact I just got back from the Digital Design World Conference in Seattle where Dreamweaver is a staple of the conference as it is all major industry gatherings.

[Zachery]

Originally Posted by TECK

All professional coders in the company I work for (Bell.ca), use only Dreamweaver for programming.
Kier, from vB Team, also likes a lot the DW software, beside TextPad.
I guess is all related to what you are used to...
I personally like TextPad.

Regards,
Floren.

IIRC Kier uses Alier(sp?) Homesite. before it became dreamweaver, which is atad differnt.

[Andreas]

IMHO Dreamweaver is great, especially for "prototyping".
But as the focus of vB.org is mainly programming and not design I think there are better tools for this: (Simple) Editors with syntax-highlighting.

[DrkFusion]

Originally Posted by Jolten

I've been in the design industry for more than 15 years. And Web development end of that for at least 5, More often than not a professional company will rely on Dreamweaver in conjuction with a good text editor. It's a rare business anymroe that is willing to pay an employee to hand code everything when it can be done in 10 minutes via Dreamweaver.

In fact I just got back from the Digital Design World Conference in Seattle where Dreamweaver is a staple of the conference as it is all major industry gatherings.

That is exactly what the key is. You use Dreamweaver and clean up the code by hand. I will say that I do infact use Dreamweaver and have been a developer for more than 7 years now, and using it does not take away from my skill level, and experience.


PhpEDIT is a great program that I am using, it is great for testing for errors while coding.

[Dean C]

I think you'll find many people can also code as quickly by hand as they can within dreamweaver ((X)HTML that is)