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Old 05-10-2004, 11:43 PM
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just outta curiosity, mostly at boofo and msimplay; how do you feel about the fact that chen went and made Hivemail and sells it?
well as i said i don't have no problem with paid hacks i bought a few in the past
i mean look at Hivemail its excellent
and why would i have any opinion or problem with it , its a script just as is vbulletin , and not just small scripts its something actually no one offers to that quality , The Vbulletin of email scripts

But theres a difference in modifications for a script as addons
and totally new scripts Hivemail is a completely different product

My fear is the fact that this place could turn into a place of commerce
paid hacks could take over quickly
this is the one place where they are not allowed and thus the hack makers are not releasing paid hacks

i mean theres loads of places that allow paid hacks
why pick Vbulletin.org
I would say the answer to that is its advertising potential as anyone whose everyone that has modified their forum in someway or other be that
hacker or person that comes to download hacks
knows of this site
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Old 05-11-2004, 04:02 AM
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just outta curiosity, mostly at boofo and msimplay; how do you feel about the fact that chen went and made Hivemail and sells it?
I don't think Hivemail (or PhotoPost) could be considered hacks though. They do not exist because of simply because of vBulletin and will run fine if vBulletin isn't installed. Just because something integrates with vBulletin doesn't make it a hack or add-on.
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Old 05-11-2004, 07:33 AM
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I don't think Hivemail (or PhotoPost) could be considered hacks though. They do not exist because of simply because of vBulletin and will run fine if vBulletin isn't installed. Just because something integrates with vBulletin doesn't make it a hack or add-on.
and i agree, just it could be said that 'chen learn't to code via vb.org' and him then using that knowledge to go on and make a product with possible vB integration, i'm wondering whether it's viewed in a different light than the one in which photopost is seen.
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Old 05-11-2004, 07:41 AM
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and i agree, just it could be said that 'chen learn't to code via vb.org' and him then using that knowledge to go on and make a product with possible vB integration, i'm wondering whether it's viewed in a different light than the one in which photopost is seen.
thats a good thing right ?
my mate uses Hivemail and i myself use photopost
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Old 05-11-2004, 07:46 AM
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thats a good thing right ?
my mate uses Hivemail and i myself use photopost
i dunno that's why i'm asking, i mean based on .org's current form, i don't think paid mods belong here or could work here, but as a customer who has paid for a mod, i'd say that i would like to know that they're supported, going through quality control and are large-huge mods. protecting the customers as it were. i just got the general feeling that it was felt that if you learn't how to code via this community you shouldn't charge for code, and as much as Hivemail is still a product, it's still code so was just wondering.
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Old 05-11-2004, 08:02 AM
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I personally think paid mods should not be allowed here, and I do paid mods.

Lets face it this place is for support of vbulletin and add ons.

People pay 30 a year to have vbulletin access to upgrades and vbulletin.org , vbulletintemplates.com

To add in more paid functions here would not only cause for more work by mods, but change the aspect of this place drastically.

They allow you to discuss paid add ons, they allow you to promote them in your sig.

Why change a good thing, and this coming from someone who does paid mods.
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Old 05-11-2004, 08:03 AM
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i dunno that's why i'm asking, i mean based on .org's current form, i don't think paid mods belong here or could work here, but as a customer who has paid for a mod, i'd say that i would like to know that they're supported, going through quality control and are large-huge mods. protecting the customers as it were. i just got the general feeling that it was felt that if you learn't how to code via this community you shouldn't charge for code, and as much as Hivemail is still a product, it's still code so was just wondering.
Well thats like saying because vbulletin uses open source php they shouldn't charge for it

its not so much the fact of charging for it
its more that its on this site
i suppose the view is changing as i always thought of vbulletin.org the one place where i could learn share and all the rest of it

i mean the reason why i say this is because
when i eventually release some of my own hacks here
its going to be because this community gave to me
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Old 05-11-2004, 08:22 AM
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Well thats like saying because vbulletin uses open source php they shouldn't charge for it

its not so much the fact of charging for it
its more that its on this site
i suppose the view is changing as i always thought of vbulletin.org the one place where i could learn share and all the rest of it

i mean the reason why i say this is because
when i eventually release some of my own hacks here
its going to be because this community gave to me
i feel the same, but i'm just querying the differences, just like the differences in someone releasing a lite product for free of a paid mod really (which i'm quite pro, as i tended to pay for the JS) i was just asking questions really. i intend to release stuff too based on the same thing plus the back links , so was just asking really
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Old 05-11-2004, 08:41 AM
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What are "plus the back links"?
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Old 05-11-2004, 09:08 AM
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when you release large hacks, you get to sig them with "made by sabret00the for ebs:live" that's attractive to me, as before i learn't to code i always wanted the best for my community and that means promoting it, and it's hard to attract forum users as they tend to have somewhere ot post, so doing this in a non agressive fashion is gentlemanly.
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