Paid Mods

[MPDev]

I am taking it personal because you are trying to change the subject and make this discussion about me and the mods I have submitted - thats not the topic I've started here and nor should you hyjack it to change it.

My position is the lack of a resource for professional mods is a liability for this site. Allowing for a forum where people can post infromation about mods for purchase would be an added "resource" for the site that bills itself as the "Ultimate Resouce".

[Boofo]

Originally Posted by MPDev

Is this how personal attacks work here - make an accusation and the follow up with "it wasn't personal, I was just using you as an example."? Because that's pretty much the definition of a "personal attack".

Sorry, Boofo, but you are off-topic (once again) and should start a new thread or contact me privately if you have some questions.

My involvement here isn't the issue being discussed - my use of the site as a vB customer looking for mods is.

Now, can you stay on topic or do you need to take a time out?

First of all, I'm not a third-grader that needs a time out. And I was on-topic. You brought up the paid hacks idea and that is what you also are into. This thread is about paid hacks and anyone that offers them or is looking for them. Maybe YOU need to step back and take a time-out.

[MPDev]

My apologies, it wasn't personal, I was just using the third-grade remark as an example of an action you might want to consider. Given that you are probably the oldest person on this board, I thought you might see the humor in the remark. Maybe a nurse could explain it to you.

I understand that older people often are resistant to change and that as the younger crowd looks to move beyond its confines it might put off some in a different generation. After all, the transition from punch card to disk was not an easy one.

Again, not a personal attack; just using you as an example of someone "older than dirt".

[Brad]

Personaly I belive anything released here (and at vBt) should be free of charge to jelsoft customer, that covers everything from hacks, template mods, button sets, full blown styles, etc.

These communitys should be a means for everyone to learn from each other, learn how vBulletin works from the top to bottom. End users need a resource that gose beyound general support, how many of you can say the hacking community never helped you de-bug a error with your live board, or showed you a better way of writting some tricky php code. Ask anyone well known for good code in this community, a lot will tell you they owe a lot to the guys that came before them.

I like these type of communitys, they breed creative hacks built on creative code. And I don't want to see a paid hacks section take away from that.

I think no one would have a problem with someone selling hacks outside of this community, it is when you propose using vBulletin.org as a means to sell products you start getting on thin ice.

[MPDev]

And I am sure that 98% of the site would remain so - but as the Ultimate Resource, wouldn't giving people the option of looking at for-fee mods be an asset? What does giving them that option do to take away any value from the rest of this site?

You see it as making vb.org a sales site - I see it as providing additional resources.

[Boofo]

Originally Posted by MPDev

My apologies, it wasn't personal, I was just using the third-grade remark as an example of an action you might want to consider. Given that you are probably the oldest person on this board, I thought you might see the humor in the remark. Maybe a nurse could explain it to you.

I understand that older people often are resistant to change and that as the younger crowd looks to move beyond its confines it might put off some in a different generation. After all, the transition from punch card to disk was not an easy one.

Again, not a personal attack; just using you as an example of someone "older than dirt".

You see? You are like every other fly-by-night that comes around. You can't handle criticism so you lash out in comical ways. Hopefully, you'll live as long as I have to see the things I've seen from this community. But as long as there are people like you that are out to make a quick buck, then we have to stay on our toes and keep your kind at bay. This is all I'm going to say on this thread because my time is more valuable than to waste it trying to make you understand what this community is all about. You'll never break this community with your paid hack mentality. Not as long as I am here, anyway.

[msimplay]

Originally Posted by MPDev

And I am sure that 98% of the site would remain so - but as the Ultimate Resource, wouldn't giving people the option of looking at for-fee mods be an asset? What does giving them that option do to take away any value from the rest of this site?

You see it as making vb.org a sales site - I see it as providing additional resources.

theres a service request forum if anyone wants something can't they just go there ?
that way we don't get sellers we get people who want things instead
that way you know what people want instead of telling people what they want by saying ooh u need x coz x has x features

[MPDev]

You can't handle criticism

So it was personal after all.

Not as long as I am here, anyway.

Well, doesn't appear I have long to wait, then, huh? ;D

All kidding aisde, I'm not suggesting breaking the forum or the spirit - I'm simply discussing what could be a valuable resource that brings professional coders into the mix of your "learning" group.

As a customer willing to pay for quality, I'm disappointed that this forum falls short of its "ultimate" claims.

that way we don't get sellers we get people who want things instead

Because of the value obtained by not doing one-off's or cusotmization for every request.

[msimplay]

Originally Posted by MPDev

So it was personal after all.



Well, doesn't appear I have long to wait, then, huh? ;D

All kidding aisde, I'm not suggesting breaking the forum or the spirit - I'm simply discussing what could be a valuable resource that brings professional coders into the mix of your "learning" group.

As a customer willing to pay for quality, I'm disappointed that this forum falls short of its "ultimate" claims.



Because of the value obtained by not doing one-off's or cusotmization for every request.

I'm not gonna deny that you are a customer but because you are indeed the developer of photopost it appears your views are slightly biased

also because you want to sell hacks
i suppose as a seller i'd also want to advertise here
but the requests forum is there so it doesn't become a place of just selling

if you really want to pay for something request it in that forum
theres always someone willing to pick it up for cheap
i would know

[amykhar]

Y'all, things are getting out of control in this thread. The topic at hand is whether people should be allowed to start threads about paid hacks. The rules say no, which is what the moderators should enforce.

People who charge for their work are not evil.
People who want this place to stay for free hacks exclusively do have a right to believe that.

Enough with the mud slinging because there's no point in it. Jelsoft will make the final decision on what they want at their site.

Amy