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Old 12-05-2003, 11:55 PM
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I have not read through all of this yet - but its a great idea, and maybe this was already mentioned, or planned, but it seemed the first half of the posts seemed to get to caught up in becoming an English teacher with a red pen.

I think the idea is awesome - but I think that when being reviewed that it should be more looked at not as a review or grading process, but as a finalization process. Most hacks are really not that big. Some are, but most are not. If there is something wrong with it - lets just fix it, give feedback of what was done, why it was done, and then release it as a completely solid piece of work - with no mention of any changes made or not made between submission and release.

The last part would be crucial as otherwise people would be scared of having to much red ink in the public eye - which I think you guys are trying to cover already anyway.

But again - if this process was used to just take out that extra two db calls and tighten stuff up, use more standard variable names, etc, this would be something spectacular for the community. If it became a king on high, you pass, you fail, thing - even if that was kept private to everyone but the person that "failed", it would kill things - it would create a three class system - the judges, the ones that are always accepted, and the ones that always fail. While the guys that didnt get accepted would be only known to that one person - that person is going to notice that some Pot Smoking goody goody (sorry overgrow - I have been around to long and still get a kick out of your forums topic and your importance in this community) - but anyway notice this pot smoking goody goody is always approved, while they are not - - which would start to build up resentment in some, and discourage them from submitting more.

done rambling - just full of my two cents remarks today -
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Old 12-06-2003, 12:06 AM
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Just finished browsing through the rest of these - and I will say point blank - the direction you are headed scares me - How dumb would it be to send something back to someone because they didnt put table prefixs in? Or something like that - when it takes probably less time to just fix it and get it released - nobody gets hurt, the community benifits by the hack being available, the hack writer gets feedback and knows next time to do that - if the same person keeps doing that, it takes one skim to see that, and the third time just hand it back then and say - "come on dude - we told you the other two times we need these table prefixs in it" just get those added and we will then look at it" - and still say then, that you have not looked at the code all other than to notice they missing prefixes so this is no rejection of anything cause nothing has been looked at.

Got to actually help, and in doing so, as corny as it sounds, inspire others to create more. Need no grading - which leads to praise - which is great - but what about the opposite end. There is no good with out bad in that system. The bad makes the good not worth having.
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Old 12-06-2003, 07:05 PM
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Well, gamma is here and soon all the talking will be replaced with action.

Just a personal thanks to the staff. Your efforts to keep things organized are appreciated. Whatever you do, a percentage of people will complain about it later. At least you tried to solicit opinions.
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Old 12-21-2003, 01:25 PM
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Sounds good guys look forward to seeing what hacks are made for VB3 !
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Old 12-21-2003, 11:02 PM
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yes, vb3 hacks are going to be so great !
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Old 12-22-2003, 01:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gio Takahashi
From what vB says, they said around Christmas time.
Around Feb 2004 was a reply on vb.com http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showp...74&postcount=8
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Old 12-23-2003, 01:08 AM
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they are not vb staff, I don't believe what they said. also I wanna know when too, but there is no clue for the final, any way, RC1 should be enough
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Old 12-24-2003, 08:21 AM
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Why waiting? --> --edit-- wrong url

Kier said ASAP. And the code will only change bugfixes.
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Old 12-24-2003, 09:02 AM
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well, I love the below post of Kier: hackers should start to work now
http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showp...8&postcount=24
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Old 12-24-2003, 09:45 AM
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Yeah, I don't understand the VB.ORG policy when Kier so obviously sponsors the starts of hacking. Vb's message to the hackers has no positive effects, and only annoys people still waiting for a postponed RC1 with slighty bugfixes.
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