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Old 08-13-2003, 11:11 AM
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Today at 01:05 PM Sophocle said this in Post #48

I'm working, like Corbu, Nzo and Lumina, for vbulletin-fr.com. I think it's the best french forum. We offer excellent translations and try to promote the quality of support. I also like vbulletin-fr.com because we respect copyright and I'm in this team firstly to protect authors, secondly to translate style and languages files.
:cross-eyed: Coz we don't respect it Sophocle ????????????
Thanks for this thread, I had a good opinion of you, it will change ...

Could an admin or modo close this thread pliz ?
It will bring nothing expecting bad things, if you want to speak about it, use MSN or PM

This thread is unusefull gre:
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Old 08-13-2003, 11:35 AM
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lol grog6, sophocle said

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we respect copyright
He didn't say vbulletin-fr is the only forum which respects copyrights. Don't try to make sophocle say something he didn't.

I'm working like others for vbulletin-fr.com and I think we do our best to obtain confidence from vbulletin.org hackers.

We think (the french community not only vbulletin-fr.com) that french ppl need french support and by the way an official frech site.
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Old 08-13-2003, 11:40 AM
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Sophocle said

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I think it's the best french forum. We offer excellent translations and try to promote the quality of support. I also like vbulletin-fr.com because we respect copyright
Je ne repond plus a ce post, ca n'apportera rien et vu la mentailit? que vous adoptez ca ne risque pas de s'ameliorer

Sorry for this small part in french, I know vbulletin.org's team don't like it but ...
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Old 08-13-2003, 12:21 PM
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I want to explain my point of view not to have a bad relation with Grog6 and Albibak. When I wrote my message, I defended two ideas :
- the 3 french forums can't merge : the 3 staffs are very suspicious against the others for private reasons. It's why I talk about a "stupid war". I'm not telling who is right.
This cold war can be easily understood when you see reactions to my post.

- vbulletin-fr is, IMHO, the best french web site. I gave two arguments. It's not against other french web sites.
I think we have an excellent translation staff (6 translators for vB3 style / language + many hack translators).
vbressources doesn't translate hacks and have very good self-made hacks. There are only two translators, who made a good job for vb3 style.
I can't speak about vbulletin-france translators because they began recently.

My second argument wasn't well exlained. Of course, none of the 3 french forums encourage cracking and warez. But we made a big effort in our forum to :
- protect authors by a translation agreement.
- ban warez users.
- suppress all "warezian" hacks, like Hide IP.
- delete all links or threads about warez / cracking...
It's one of our main goals.

I'm sorry if Grog6 and Albibak were ashamed of my opinion, it's not so easy to express it in english for me (I prefer translate english to french .

PS : Grog6, you've got a PM
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Old 08-13-2003, 01:12 PM
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Today at 02:21 PM Sophocle said this in Post #54


My second argument wasn't well exlained. Of course, none of the 3 french forums encourage cracking and warez. But we made a big effort in our forum to :
- protect authors by a translation agreement.
- ban warez users.
- suppress all "warezian" hacks, like Hide IP.
- delete all links or threads about warez / cracking...
It's one of our main goals.
That's where we differ on 'vbr', our main goal is to have fun with
coding and tweeking this piece of soft we have.
What the f**k with being official and all that cr*p...
WE JUST INTEND TO HAVE FUN CODING OUR HACKS

ok i shouldn't have replyed on this thread since it seems to
go nowhere... but hey, how could i resist, being french also ...

anyway have a good day

[high]* p0s3id0n goes out [/high]
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Old 08-13-2003, 01:47 PM
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une precision francaise car les malentendus rôdent.

Pour la question des PM en doublons. Je mettait en cause seulement vbulletin-france.com avec qui j'ai encore parlé hier soir car il demandent une deuxieme fois les autorisations que nous avons deja demandées il y a plus de deux mois. Ce qui entraîne à une confusion vis a vis des hackers de vbulletin.org à mon avis.
VBR n'a jamais été mis en cause, tout le monde sait que vous faitent vos hacks de votre coté, et que vous respectez les copyrights aussi. Le calme entre nos deux forums depuis un certain temps est bénéfique pour tous, pour cela excusez si des propos ont mal étés écrits ou trop étés sous entendus.
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Old 08-13-2003, 02:43 PM
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geez wheres all the english gone :cry:

thinking about this, you all seem unable to work with yourselves, so why would anyone in their right mind wanna make you official, you need to prove yourselves in terms of coming together to make one big forum that will serve the whole french community instead of 3 small ones, all this talk of war is just dumb, it's not gonna get anything done nor acheived
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Old 08-13-2003, 07:34 PM
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Well I was browsing vBulletin-fr.com, and as a Guest could view some hacks that were posted as code, rather than as an attachment - You need to work on some permission based system there, at all 3 boards and any other site that wants to be "respectful" of the author's copyright and warez issues...

I suggest:

1.) Get people who want access to the Hacks to PM you with their vB.com or .org username
2.) You check it out, and if they have posted in a forum where only licenced members can (vB.org -> Full Releases, vB.com -> Troubleshooting Forum) you give them access
3.) If they haven't, you ask them to, and then if they do not you do not give them access

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Old 08-13-2003, 07:49 PM
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Then you have the problem of some warez user adding people who ask them to their 3 email addys list just so they can post. Then change it back...

There's no reliable way of doing unless your intigrated with the license system.
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Old 08-13-2003, 07:51 PM
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Or you have a vB.org/.com moderator who can verify their licence status

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