Regarding Security Update 3.8.4

[Digital Jedi]

Isn't this semantics, guys? You're basically saying I have a 4.0 forum, and every legal right to run one, but I don't have a vB4 licence. How does that make any kind of sense?

The reason I bring it up, is because you don't distinguish that (that there's a way to have a vB4 board, but it doesn't count as a vB4 license unless it's current), or attempt to ascertain that, when you tell people that having a vB4 license gives you access to everything prior. There's 0 reason why anyone in my situation would be able to glean the distinction your making. And I think it's an important one.

[Zachery]

The license you purchase has an agreement with it.

You purchased your license during the vBulletin 3 era, which its license allowed for access to the software from the date of purchase plus 12 months. Before the end of term, or after the end of term, you had the option to purchase a renewal to extend that access for another 12 months. When the vBulletin 4 license was released, we removed the ability to purchase that renewal.

However, since you're on a "classic" or "legacy" license, you're still tied to that license agreement and terms. It did allow you to get access to any versions of vBulletin forum that were released while your license was active. Which would include early versions of vBulletin 4.

The decision to use, or upgrade to vBulletin 4 was on you. If you wanted continued updates, you should have been aware you would have needed to purchase an upgrade.

There is a reason we specific vBulletin 4 license, it is not the same as the classic license.

[blind-eddie]

Does this mean my 3.7 lic is still eligible to upgrade for $35?

[Zachery]

No, we discontinued the renewal program a long while ago.

[Digital Jedi]

Originally Posted by Zachery

The license you purchase has an agreement with it.

You purchased your license during the vBulletin 3 era, which its license allowed for access to the software from the date of purchase plus 12 months. Before the end of term, or after the end of term, you had the option to purchase a renewal to extend that access for another 12 months. When the vBulletin 4 license was released, we removed the ability to purchase that renewal.

However, since you're on a "classic" or "legacy" license, you're still tied to that license agreement and terms. It did allow you to get access to any versions of vBulletin forum that were released while your license was active. Which would include early versions of vBulletin 4.

The decision to use, or upgrade to vBulletin 4 was on you. If you wanted continued updates, you should have been aware you would have needed to purchase an upgrade.

There is a reason we specific vBulletin 4 license, it is not the same as the classic license.

Did I ever suggest otherwise?

[Zachery]

I explained why it makes sense for you to have access to the vBulletin 4 source code, but not be on a vBulletin 4 license.

[Digital Jedi]

Originally Posted by Zachery

I explained why it makes sense for you to have access to the vBulletin 4 source code, but not be on a vBulletin 4 license.

And I grasp that. I'm just pointing out that it's not something apparent to those of us caught in that situation just from looking at the downloads in our Members Area. I'm only talking about the clarity of that information. Devoid of whether I think it's fair or not.

[ozzy47]

Well it was announced long ago.

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/forum...p;goto=newpost

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=221106

And IIRC, there was a eBulletin sent out about it also, but I can not say for sure.

[Digital Jedi]

Originally Posted by ozzy47

Well it was announced long ago.

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/forum...p;goto=newpost

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=221106

And IIRC, there was a eBulletin sent out about it also, but I can not say for sure.

Specifically, I'm referring to how the 3.x series continued for a short time after 4.0 was released. I don't recall anyone foreseeing that eventuality in order to announce it. I didn't see this particular announcement, but I went ahead and assumed it was the case just based on precedent. I didn't even realize it was under question that 3.x users with an active license might not get in on the 4.x series. I had just assumed it would happen the way it happened, sans the simultaneous development.

I do get the distinct feeling that people think I'm complaining about something I'm not.