New registered user issue..

[Barcham]

Originally Posted by Max Taxable

That is not what happened. Wossy got registered first, followed closely by the real user 2290 with the spammy name.

On another topic - Why do you verify email addresses anyway? It doesn't inhibit spam - the autospam programs defeated the human verification of the major email providers long ago. All it does today is annoy legitimate users and cause you to think the magic database is randomly creating users and even assigning them a IP and email address!

*slaps knee*

A bit off topic, but as to verifying email addresses... I send out a verification email to all new members and until the email is confirmed, they cannot post on my board or even have access to most of the content. So far, I have yet to have so much as one spammer post anything on the board. The few bots who do get through, never verify their email address and stay in limbo forever or until I get around to deleting them. If I was to forego the email verification, these bots - the very few that do get by my security - would be able to post at will. Or is there a category of bot that will actually respond to the verification email? If so, I haven't encountered them yet.

[Max Taxable]

Originally Posted by Barcham

A bit off topic, but as to verifying email addresses... I send out a verification email to all new members and until the email is confirmed, they cannot post on my board or even have access to most of the content. So far, I have yet to have so much as one spammer post anything on the board. The few bots who do get through, never verify their email address and stay in limbo forever or until I get around to deleting them. If I was to forego the email verification, these bots - the very few that do get by my security - would be able to post at will. Or is there a category of bot that will actually respond to the verification email? If so, I haven't encountered them yet.

They don't even need to check their email, they get the verification code from the vB script when they submit the form.

If email verification works for ya, keep doing it.

I don't mess with it on any of my boards and haven't for at least a couple of years, and still no spam gets through - due to the actions described at the link in my sig.

[excessive34]

Originally Posted by Max Taxable

So, the magic database is not only randomly creating users and even assigning them a IP and email address, it's messing with legitimate new users' ID numbers as well.

See how this sounds?

Are you being an ignorant moron purposely or what?

I'm giving you direct facts and trying to figure out why its happening... If you cant help, take your ignorance else where.

A user signed up, his name was wossy. The database assigned him "2289"... For whatever reason, the website saw him as user "2290" the random string of text was being displayed for the new user... because the field doesnt exist in the database.

So why is this happening? Acting high and mighty doesnt solve my issue.

[Max Taxable]

Originally Posted by excessive34

A user signed up, his name was wossy. The database assigned him "2289"... For whatever reason, the website saw him as user "2290" the random string of text was being displayed for the new user... because the field doesnt exist in the database..

This is NOT what happened. The system does NOT create users and it does NOT randomly assign userid numbers.

And it does NOT assign random IP addresses and email addresses to these phantom users.

You had TWO users - the fact that you could not see the userid 2290 in the db isn't relevant - it existed, or you would not have been able to call up the profile, see the IP and email address, and so on. This information was INPUTTED by whoever registered that account and it is NOT related to the "wossy" account.

I have had a vBulletin license for close to 12 years and have been running installations of it that long, and I think in all that time I have gone into the database maybe a dozen times - there's simply very seldom a reason to do that. Leave the db alone to do its thing.

You freaked out because you had two accounts registered almost simultaneously. There WERE two accounts, you said so yourself. There was NO misassignment of userid number and there was NO magically created user in the db that has a unique email and a IP address.

You didn't use scientific method to investigate this and then you wiped out any chance at all of figuring anything out, by meddling with the database. It's stupid.

You're wasting good people's time with this nonsense.

[excessive34]

Originally Posted by Max Taxable

This is NOT what happened. The system does NOT create users and it does NOT randomly assign userid numbers.

And it does NOT assign random IP addresses and email addresses to these phantom users.

You had TWO users - the fact that you could not see the userid 2290 in the db isn't relevant - it existed, or you would not have been able to call up the profile, see the IP and email address, and so on. This information was INPUTTED by whoever registered that account and it is NOT related to the "wossy" account.

I have had a vBulletin license for close to 12 years and have been running installations of it that long, and I think in all that time I have gone into the database maybe a dozen times - there's simply very seldom a reason to do that. Leave the db alone to do its thing.

You freaked out because you had two accounts registered almost simultaneously. There WERE two accounts, you said so yourself. There was NO misassignment of userid number and there was NO magically created user in the db that has a unique email and a IP address.

You didn't use scientific method to investigate this and then you wiped out any chance at all of figuring anything out, by meddling with the database. It's stupid.

You're wasting good people's time with this nonsense.

You've posted more ignorance in one thread then I have experienced throughout my entire life. Holy shit.

[cellarius]

Well. Fact is: It is simply impossible that you see a different userid in the profile's url than there is in the database. Simply because that very userid from the url is used by vB to identifiy what line of data to read from the database to render the profile page. If there's 2290 in the URL, there simply is no way that vB read the data from line 2289 in the database. Except you wrote a plugin that changed the userid along the way, but then none of your profiles would work at all.

You're simply making no sense, and since you obviously have messed with the user table, changing userids around, in all probability you simply got lost. Of course, your, let's say incoherent way of describing the problem and the steps you tried to resolve it in this thread are not exactly helpful to follow the issue at all.

And this has nothing to do with ignorance - it's just that what you describe is really, really hard to believe if one knows how things work.

[Max Taxable]

Originally Posted by excessive34

You've posted more ignorance in one thread then I have experienced throughout my entire life. Holy shit.

Hey Man, earlier in the thread you verified there were two new users. I verified "Wossy" was userid 2289 and the spammer was 2290, by hovering my mouse over their usernames. I asked you about this and you verified it, yourself.

You verified the spammer's profile contained a IP address and a unique email address.

There were TWO accounts, not some magically generated gibberish one. There was NO database error, there was NO duplication and there was NO mis-assignment of userid number.

There was only a paranoid, confused, way too busybody forum admin who couldn't take the couple of seconds necessary to figure out the spammer account, although with a spammy name, was a legitimate account.

And clearly you have no respect for other folks time. Folks who are here to volunteer their time to help others. Folks who do this every damn day and never ask for, anything in return. Folks who over the years have helped some good people out of some serious, legitimate jams.

This was no jam, serious or legitimate - it was your imagination. And you wasted our time with it.