What do you think about Vbulletin vs Xenforo?

[JacquiiDesigns]

Originally Posted by ozzy47

There are no bugs in vB4, just unintended features.

Apparently Joe concurs :P

Originally Posted by nhawk

Jacquii,

A lot of the 'Errors' that are 'hidden' are warnings pertaining to things like variables not existing before use. While it is better to initialize variables before using them, PHP assigns them 'on the fly' anyway so those are warnings that can be safely ignored.

I've heard this before - but from my perspective - these errors still exist. The fact that we can safely ignore them does not make them any less errors that need to be fixed.

Originally Posted by BirdOPrey5

JIRA numbers mean nothing... There are JIRA's for misspelled words in help documents, an extra semi-colon in code, These all count as "bugs." Also counted in JIRA as "issues" (your image) are countless "improvement requests" and "feature requests" which aren't bugs by any definition.

Use the product, I would bet you would be hard pressed to find a bug without looking one up. Most people who use VB 4.x will never run into a real bug, those who do will be hit by one or two.

There is absolutely no intellectually honest way of calling VB4 "bug ridden."

JIRA numbers mean nothing?!
I've been looking through JIRA to see if there's anyway I can confirm what you're saying. Here's an example of what I've found as concerns vB 4:



I've seen a few examples like the above - where the general response by vB Staff is like:
This is a known issue, you can workaround that by bla bla bla... The bug still marked as confirmed, yet unresolved.

The list in the screencap above is NOT feature & improvement requests. This seems a direct contradiction to what you're saying Joe.

What's most concerning to me is that vB 4 is finished. There's to be no further development or bug fixes? Noone's working on it? It's been abandoned as an unfinished product with confirmed bugs.

Perhaps my eyes are deceiving me? I would like to think not anyway...

Originally Posted by TheLastSuperman

I concur, Jacquii give it a go... it's not like it used to be when it first launched it improved ten fold easy I can assure you.

I must admit - the last time I attempted to use vB 4 on any of my own personal projects was prior to vB 4.1 ... I'm of the school that the 'upgrade' from vB 3 - vB 4 Gold broke the styling system. vB 3's styling was (and still is imo) much more intuitive than vB 4.

Should be interesting to see the improvements between 4 Gold and 4.2 styling anyway...

J.