ok I will surely take into consideration everything youve all said, I will make some custom forum icons to put in place of the blah ones. I used one of those cross platform browser compatability sites to see my site and was amazed at what I saw, indeed on some it looks very wide, some the background image is tiled, misplaced, or non existant, Im interested in what you said about the side bar, maybe you could elaborate more on exactly what, where, and how, I know thats aalot to ask, but I am a newbie and like Ive reiterated multiple times I am no design or tech guru, I learn 100 percent as I go, Im going into all of this with literally zero knowledge of computers whatsoever, I havent even figured printshop out yet and people now see that as ancient software, I have photoshop but havent even begun to understand it yet either, so tell me more about adjusting my overall width or whatever and the sidebar stuff you mentioned, also what do you think about making it fixed width, or is this what you are talking about? I thought about maybe side borders as well, I appreciate your input, and I will now inactivate my forums and tinker some more, I would appreciate a reply so I know how to fix my "too wide" problem as well as so I can reply to this thread and move it back towards the top at a later date ( so I dont have to make another additional thread for my site, and so it wont auto-merge my double post, thus keeping me way out of sight from everyone. Thanks again, ( and I will check out your site and likely register!)