I didnt mention anything about bars but i did say 'the postbit area floating to the right of the first post'. I dont really know how to be more specific. I just want to know if anyone knows of such a style that has that built in. (the box floating to the right of the first post). I originally thought it was vb's default style but having re-instated it i dont think it is, or if it is then im not sure how to trigger it to do the 'box floating to the right of the first post' bit.