More staff leave vB....

[Shelley_c]

Originally Posted by UKBusinessLive

I'm not sure about this, Where i work we've had about 5 guys leave in the past month, and they left to work elsewhere and not because they were made to leave or left as a group for whatever reason.

I can't really comment for the Software industry as mine is more engineer related, But in the software industry, isn't it common for people to leave when they can upgrade their knowledge?? if folk were to stay on at Vbulletin indefinately then there would be no influx of fresh ideas and knowledge, They would only know what they know and no more??

But if they could better their job prospects by moving on to a different enviroment then surely that would be a good mark on their resume.

I guess that in the software industry, you'll find that people come and go more often than any other industry, I mean how many times have you heard that Joe bloggs has been with XXX.com for 35 years until his retirement??? never i guess.

I found out that people come and go for a variety of reasons and maninly this time of year so they can take their summer holidays before starting their new job.

Thats why i don't see anything strange about 4 guys leaving, Good luck to them they served their time well, now lets bring in the fresh ideas and look forward to what will happen in the next year or two

ROFLMAO - Seriously UK, you don't actually believe that? Let's hope we see some changes around here also. The continuous stagnation of this site must be drawing the eyes of the IB team here. Totally agree with your remark, bring in the fresh ideas, thus far the current ideas haven't worked so well. Last update was 3 years and counting.

[UKBusinessLive]

Originally Posted by Shelley_c

ROFLMAO - Seriously UK, you don't actually believe that? Let's hope we see some changes around here also. The continuous stagnation of this site must be drawing the eyes of the IB team here. Totally agree with your remark, bring in the fresh ideas, thus far the current ideas haven't worked so well. Last update was 3 years and counting.

To be honest Shelley, if VBulletin had on 5 employees then it would be Panic stations, but i'm sure they have many more, I don't really see a problem with 4 guys leaving and i can't really speculate as to the reasons for it but i'm pretty sure that Vb will replace those guys with people of equal experiance whose fresh ideas will benefit the whole comunity.

[Shelley_c]

I don't see it as a problem. I don't even see it as any type of concern. But the amount of staff leaving at the same time isn't a coincidence, bettering their career opportunities? all at the same time? Nah, I don't buy that announcement, but for professionalism sake you have to respect it and take your hats off to them. In anycase, I belive the changes are needed here rather than there.

But yeah, They'll be replaced easy enough. It's always the case, one steps down there will be someone else there to replace him/her.

[KTBleeding]

Originally Posted by lasto

i would`nt worrie much about the designers/coders leaving as they can easy be replaced with new staff.
The only thing u have to worry about is the price going up.

Absolutely not true. My bosses have that same mindset, and that's why after three years now, everyone else they've hired in my department has either been completely horrible, novice, or inexperienced and it's done nothing but hold us back.

It's actually one of the main reasons why they are only up by 2% over last year right now.

Sure, there are a bunch of people who "know" html / css, but for someone to actually be SKILLED at it to the point where it's any sort of benefit even having them there takes a lot of years of experience. vBulletin couldn't easily replace the designers.. look at how many people horribly alter their templates compared to those who do it well?

[UKBusinessLive]

Originally Posted by KTBleeding

Absolutely not true. My bosses have that same mindset, and that's why after three years now, everyone else they've hired in my department has either been completely horrible, novice, or inexperienced and it's done nothing but hold us back.

It's actually one of the main reasons why they are only up by 2% over last year right now.

Sure, there are a bunch of people who "know" html / css, but for someone to actually be SKILLED at it to the point where it's any sort of benefit even having them there takes a lot of years of experience. vBulletin couldn't easily replace the designers.. look at how many people horribly alter their templates compared to those who do it well?

Thats True but then theres always the quest for fresh knowledge and experiance, Whilst its super having guys that can do well and code well, theres always people that can bring fresh ideas and new input to a comapny.

Just because 4 people have left and in good light from what i read, i wouldn't place it in the same category as Was princess Di Murdered?, Are there UFO's? and Elvis is alive and well and working In MacDonalds in London?

We can speculate all day long and assume that VB.com will shut down in a matter of weeks, or we can look ahead and see the improvements that a few new faces will bring.

It don't worry me the slightliest, and i wish the guys well in their seperate ventures. :up:

[TNCclubman]

So 4 top coders left. Anyone know the amount of top coders total? Not a number of all the coders, but if 4 out of 6 top coders left, that may be a problem. If it was 4 out of 30 top coders, then not so much.

[UKBusinessLive]

Originally Posted by TNCclubman

So 4 top coders left. Anyone know the amount of top coders total? Not a number of all the coders, but if 4 out of 6 top coders left, that may be a problem. If it was 4 out of 30 top coders, then not so much.

"several key Developers" thats who's leaving, I'm sure VB has enough though, not sure of the totals myself

[lasto]

maybe they leaving because they cant come up with any decent ideas and are stiffling the development of any further vbs.

[Shelley_c]

The chances of them lacking ideas and leaving due to lack of ideas is 0%. vbulletin isn't the number1 software because of the lack of ideas. Even if this was the case, the team have the community to fall back on and get inspiration from the contributors here (which I'm sure they have already).

[UKBusinessLive]

Originally Posted by lasto

maybe they leaving because they cant come up with any decent ideas and are stiffling the development of any further vbs.

Not sure if anyones thought of this but, perhaps they felt a time to move on was right. Nothing to do with the work or anything related?

The end point is VB is the best, thats why we use it and i'm sure the future additions and improvements will do us all justice.