Bye Bye Organized Religion

[Ohiosweetheart]

Manmade religion is just that... man-made. I used to go to church without fail.
I rarely attend now because of my job. Yet my relationship with God has not suffered. I still love Him, still worship Him, still claim Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior, still pray, and still read the Bible. I don't teach my son about religion. I teach him about having a relationship with God.

When asked if I'm religious, I answer, "Nope. I'm a Christian". The comeback is usually "isn't that the same thing"? No it isn't. Two very different things, entirely.

what would be a non-manmade religion, Peggy??? Aliens religions ?! like the Raelism?

[Xphusion]

IMHO i think the world would be 1000X better

[iogames]

Ah dreamers...

[Ohiosweetheart]

Originally Posted by nexialys

what would be a non-manmade religion, Peggy??? Aliens religions ?! like the Raelism?

All religions are man-made. All denominations in the Christian sector are man-made. A bunch of man-made rules. Jesus told us to live according to the Bible, love each other, treat each other good, and help those who need help. He didn't tell us that wearing make-up, cutting our hair short and having pierced ears would send us to hell. I don't believe in any religion or denomination. I believe in relationship with God.

[tldagent]

Originally Posted by Ohiosweetheart

All religions are man-made. All denominations in the Christian sector are man-made. A bunch of man-made rules. Jesus told us to live according to the Bible, love each other, treat each other good, and help those who need help. He didn't tell us that wearing make-up, cutting our hair short and having pierced ears would send us to hell. I don't believe in any religion or denomination. I believe in relationship with God.

I disagree. Jesus did not tell us to live according to the Bible. He was a way shower in which there is and never has been any real proof of his existence to begin with. The bible, (The new testament) was written after the supposed Christ. Christianity is not the way of Jesus it's the way of Paul, who was a self proclaimed prophet of Jesus Christ. Paul never actually met Christ.

I totally agree with what you've said there otherwise Ohiosweetheart. It's funny how twisted our society has become and how unlike Jesus many Christians have become.

The fact of the matter is that if todays Christians had Jesus in their midst, (providing there is such a thing) they would stone him, hang him on a cross and call him blasphemous. They do it to each other everyday and it was Christ that showed us that what we do to our fellow man we do unto ourselves. If you want to hurt yourself, hurt your neighbor.

It's really not much to debate here but it is something to ponder. There are a lot of people who use Jesus and Christianity to extract money out of naive people. What we have today is the blind leading the blind and like all religions, there is only one God and that God is MONEY! It's sad but it's the truth. As a Christian nation we are all but an example of what it means NOT to be Christian.

Onward Christian soldiers!

[smacklan]

Originally Posted by tldagent

I disagree. Jesus did not tell us to live according to the Bible. He was a way shower in which there is and never has been any real proof of his existence to begin with. The bible, (The new testament) was written after the supposed Christ. Christianity is not the way of Jesus it's the way of Paul, who was a self proclaimed prophet of Jesus Christ. Paul never actually met Christ.

Interesting take you have there although historically and factually inaccurate. But hey, not uncommon throughout history and even more so today The Apostles were meant to "do" and "be" exactly what they were. Witnesses to Jesus and deliverers of His messages and instructions and to establish the early Christian church. If you want to know what God expects of you and will hold you accountable to I suggest you immerse yourself in the Book of Acts. Finally, the only ones who can be called true apostles are those who were witnesses to the Resurrection of Christ of which the Apostle Paul was one. Paul was chosen by Jesus to be the Apostle to the Gentiles and that's who his writings are directed to so yes, Christianity is a religion for the gentiles (which are all peoples who are not Hebrew...although Jesus came primarily for the Jews and will return one day and restore them to their chosen place in God's kingdom).

[fanyap]

Jesus lives.

[tldagent]

Sorry Smacklan, Jesus has been coming since he left and the sky has also been falling as well. Not to mention the rapture which is still on it's way. The bible and all those books have been changed and altered so much and were written by men for men under political pressure.

Paul was chosen by Jesus according to Paul. Did I miss something? Let's also not forget that those words in that bible you mentioned, were written by men who thought the world was flat. LOL. Historically, that's correct. If you choose to believe otherwise then that's called faith. Faith that what another man wrote is truth. Is it? Adam and Eve, the story of, was written approximately 4000 years after it would have taken place, is this also truth?

They call all of this mythology.

Hey, you can run them over pulling out of the church parking lot, stab them in the back before church on Sunday, but no worries because we're washed in the blood of the lamb.

What's true and what's not is based on what others have told you or what you have read. It's all perception. I was raised Christian and know today that what's said on that pulpit is not for the love of christ but for the love of money.

Christianity came from Paul not from Jesus. Read Acts.

I would though, be interested in historical and factual evidence that support your claim though. Please be aware that there has never ever been any that anyone has come up with.

[Red Blaze]

How will the world be like if religion is "banned"? We (maybe not in our life time) will find out. Why and How do I know (Or believe)? It's in the bible in the book of Revelation. Symbolically, of course. The government will turn on religion. In Revelation, the 7 headed beast (symbolic for The Government, and it doesn't mean the U.S. government. Every government in the world.) attacks the prostitute (symbolic for religion). But wait, I can hear you. Why is religion being symbolized as a prostitute? That's something that goes way into detail, and no where near this topic. But for you to understand, read the bible carefully.

What does that mean? This means that there's great persecution coming for everyone. Churches, Door to door preaching, and so on and so forth.

Can't wait for that day to come? Much worse (for the unfaithful) will happen after that. Be careful what you wish for.

As I type this, I'm thinking. Who'll really listen? (Matthew 7:24-27) Ah, how history loves to repeat itself.

Originally Posted by matthew 24:36-39

36 ?Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father. 37 For just as the days of Noah were, so the presence of the Son of man will be. 38 For as they were in those days before the flood, eating and drinking, men marrying and women being given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark; 39 and they took no note until the flood came and swept them all away, so the presence of the Son of man will be.

Mind you, those are Jesus's words. Oh, but people don't believe what they haven't seen, right? And they want proof? Look around you! You really believe everything is done by evolution? That's like believing a painting has no artist. God is watching us, my friend. Call us nut jobs all you'd like. You're just helping in fulfilling a prophecy.