The recent flood of porn spam

[Shelley_c]

Originally Posted by Marco van Herwaarden

Let me try to give an answer to this.

From the first post of this thread:

This single line make a few assumptions:
- There is an ongoing issue that has been a problem for some time.
- Administration failed to address this issue.

The "ongoing issue" is stated as a fact, but i don't see the proof of this claim. Usually spammers are handled without much delay, often even before any member viewed or reported it. Not a real issue in my view.

Last saturday we had a situation where no staff was online for a longer period of time. This is not common and should be seen as an exception. This same day we had a sudden increase of porn spammers. Very unfortunate coincidence, but not a structual problem as we usually do not get that many porn spammers (probably school holiday in some countries) and we do have staff that handles this spam within a reasonable time.

Now here is where the irritation starts on both sides. Staff don't see this as a problem that needs to be addressed (or need to be addressed on short term), and members "accusing" staff of ignoring the "problem".

Yes suggestions are welcomed, but please don't go search for problems where there are none (or none structural/severe) and then blame staff if they don't want to spend time on a problem that doesn't exist.

Marco, are insults also welcomed?

Take a look at paul ms second response. Secondly, take a look at all my responses in this thread (civil and respectful) and most importantly, very sound suggestions esp by dean c who has made valid points. In return, we get insulted by paul (which is fine by me) if he likes the same kind of treatment that he gives to members. Not once in both threads have we had a go (as paul states) but suggestions ways of counter act the porn spam here.

It's not a coincidence that there wasn't staff present here at the weekend, they are always saying there is life outside of vb.org and are rarely here at the weekends. Fine, if we are dealing with your average spam, but we aren't dealing with your average spam. We are dealing with fully frontal vulgar images which are left here longer and longer each time and if it weren't for the members reports it would have went noticed longer.

I'm waiting for a response by a general manager at jelsoft rather than here because up till now, paul has been showing an increase in aggressive behavior which has been noticed by other members here who have pointed this out.

The pornography spam really needs to be dealt with where areas if it were you average "nokia" mobile phone spam it wouldn't be such an issue.

There's been two threads created with countless amount of suggestions (which are reasonable) and threads have remained civil which I feel the staff should go back again and read the abundance of suggestions that have been put to them by the members of this forum. Merely, just a suggestion.

[Marco van Herwaarden]

If you think paul's 2nd post in this thread was insulting, then please explain how it is insulting, as i don't see it.

About the rest of your points, did you read my response? You are again complaining about the porn spam last saturday. As i explained in my post above this was an incident and not something that happens on a regular basis, and for that reason we don't see the need for a change. Also on most weekends there is enough staff to handle all issues in a timely manner. If we would have a problem with porn spammers all the time, and with adult images staying too long on our forums, then you would have a point, but i think if that where the case, some action would have been taken long ago.

hum, actually, as it's one of the first time we see porn images in spam here, it's something to evaluate for the next days/weeks... there will be more of that spam because the bot/person was abilitated to post... there was nothing stoping it from posting, so in their log, vb.org is accessible... they will come back.

you see, it's not only to delete the porn or spam, it's also to block them from posting. these are intelligent engines, if they are able to post, they come back.

do not tell me that there is enough staff to handle this... we already know. the problem is that the staff is not hired to delete spam, they are here to help in the mood of the site, and from what i see, there is more job on the spam done than on members...

i've had to face this in china in the last weeks, as the net is now more open, there is more spam from asian sites... but now, it's americans spoiling asian forums with Cialis and other meds... (like chinese need cialis in bed!)... they can not avoid that spam but they can control how much is posted...

EDIT: i would prefer to see my comment in a thread to help people find solutions on global spam, not the spam on vb.org which i really don't care... i see more offending porn on google than here!