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Old 02-27-2009, 11:01 PM
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It's too bad there aren't more like you in your country (and mine) UKBL...political correctness is bringing about the end of western civilization.
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Old 02-28-2009, 12:47 AM
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It's too bad there aren't more like you in your country (and mine) UKBL...political correctness is bringing about the end of western civilization.
Don't forget to toss religon in there to!
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Old 02-28-2009, 09:42 AM
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The media is also the problem because they can distort all stories to how they want them to look.
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Old 02-28-2009, 10:41 AM
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I think we need to have the balls to stand up to these fanatics and preachers of hate, instead of wrapping them up in cotton wool and giving them every penny of benefit available, In the UK, The government says it cost between ?11,000 and ?15,000 to deport these fanatics home But yet you can get a one way ticket with a budget airline for ?49.00 so how on earth do they arrive at that overly inflated figure, Just another excuse for not deporting wanted terrorist.

Hamza is wanted in Jordan on Terror charges and yet we keep him here, so far his legal big has reached ?1.5 million and it keeps rising, all because of his human rights

This will be the end of the free world as we know it, unless we scrap this pathetic act, bought in by that idiot of a prime minister Tony Blair. His wife is a leading Human Rights lawyer, I guess she's keeping busy.
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Old 02-28-2009, 12:26 PM
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Since when has freedom of speech been a right? It certainly isn't in the UK. You can't say what you want, nor does society want people to say what they want. Can you imagine if we had loads of right-wing fanatics spouting out racist comments, paedophiles talking about children and murderers talking about their next victims?

Freedom of speech is a myth, as ultimately you are not free to say things that are morally wrong. And what is morally wrong, is defined in the law. This Mr. Wilders is a racist, and being racist is illegal in the UK. Why would we want to let him in ?

Mind you, I think it's hypocritical considering other people we do let in the country, but that's another story.
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To be honest, The laws of 250 years ago cannot be compared to the laws now. At that point in history, that was the law, and if it was broken then people got punished, end of story.
To be "really" honest, the British government has a history of suppressing peoples right to speak.

Regardless if the laws are 250 years or today, the British government has not, and does not support the peoples right to speak.
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Old 02-28-2009, 01:33 PM
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In The UK we don't Have freedom of speech, Your right there Dean, But that dosn't stop the fanatics ranting outside the Mosques (Thats because decent muslims don't want them inside!) "Death to the infidels", After a few hours ranting, they go home to their benefits and Free house provided by the state.

Not sure what they aim to achieve by this, Its because we let them do it, can't see all these fanatic's going to russia to rant in St Peters Square???

Especially coming to Londow which has a high Jewish Population, what make them do this?? Free Handouts, Free accomodation, Healthcare, weekly benefits?? yep thats more like it, Money and wordly goods before reglion, theres your proof, otherwise they would be in an islamic country, where they would be "A no body"

Its the minority that are affecting decent Muslims, and giving the Muslim faith a bad name, The UK is a Multi Cultral Country, we can all live together side by side but what does make matters worst is that these fanatics come over here, escaping prosecution in their own islamic country and spout vile rants about killing westerners, Thats whats effecting decent muslims liking in the UK, Its not fair on them or anyone else.

Don't tar everyone with the same brush, its only the select few that are creating problems, they need to be dealt with asap and not fluffed about.

Thats what happens when you get a spineless goverment, no ones got the bottle to do anything anymore

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To be "really" honest, the British government has a history of suppressing peoples right to speak.

Regardless if the laws are 250 years or today, the British government has not, and does not support the peoples right to speak.
I agree, In the UK you say the wrong thing its a massive fine and a criminal record, Now they give you a criminal record for putting the wrong kind of rubbish in the bin, The UK has the worlds largest amounts of CCTV cameras and they estimate that an average day in the UK you'll get picked up on at least 60 Cameras.

Mind you the criminals seem to be getting off lightly and the decent folk are being criminalised, wheres the justice in that??

Big Brother State.
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Old 02-28-2009, 03:13 PM
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Not sure what they aim to achieve by this, Its because we let them do it, can't see all these fanatic's going to russia to rant in St Peters Square???
The alternative is, sadly, to clamp down on them. The problem then is that the young and stupid would consider them to be a martyr and thus desireable to be affiliated with.

Humans - generally speaking, we're a very stupid species.

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