Embryo Legislation?

[Wayne Luke]

Assisted Fertility is one of mankind's greatest achievements but it can also be our undoing. It, along with other things, puts us outside the evolutionary chain and can eventually cause grievous harm to the species.

If a person is genetically infertile should we allow them to create more genetically infertile children? What happens if everyone becomes infertile due to these genes being perpetrated, pollution, disease or any number of outside causes? What happens to those extra embryos that no one wants? How does this sit with abortion rights or even adoption rights? There are a lot of questions around this issue that no one is talking about. Mainly because people don't want to tell infertile couples that they can't have children. Also because its a major profit center for many research doctors and groups. However one can't look at Assisted Fertility as anything but one step below cloning. What happens when researchers find the trigger to make an egg and sperm combine DNA? You don't need both genders then. Just split the DNA from a single cell and recombine it in an egg and trigger stem cell development.

Personally, I think there should be more controls on this sort of Assisted Fertility. 8 embryos puts the mother and each child at risk. This would fall under criminal negligence and if there were a death involved also volutary manslaughter. The mother that endangers herself and her potential children in this way should seek psychiatric evaluation. She could have achieved the same result with four sets of twins without the health risks involved. I do know why the doctor embedded eight embryos though. This actually happens a lot. The reason is that many times most of the embryos are not accepted and do not form a placental connection with the mother. The larger the number of embryos the greater your chances. However more research should be done to prevent rejection and lower the health risks of multiple implants.

Situations like this bring up a lot of questions. Ones that I really don't have the answers for. However as a species, we need to address these questions sooner rather than later or we could breed ourselves out of existence by playing god. The last thing we need is for all those Apocolyptic movies to become Prophetic movies. Without proper control and more research, we could be heading that way. Tying this in to other issues like overpopulation, reduced food supply, climate change and you can be creating a lot of hazards.

[UncoderMom]

8 eggs is WAY TO MUCH! A mom on my board just under went IVF and they just used 2. There should be a like a 3 max. 4 tops if three fails the first time or something.

The doctor should have is license YANKED.


Just as a side note, the large majority of infertility issues have nothing to do with genetics.

[GSeybold]

I'm sorry.. What a disgusting person. So you're lonely and depressed? Does this mean you have 8 babies at one time, all of whom will most likley have medical problems all their lives. What a selfish disgusting woman.

Oh and of course, she collects huge work comp case for a supposed injury. Ah huh, a money grabber times many years! Now she's gonna use her kids for a nice chunk of publicity change.

Yes, the doctor that implanted all eight, should have his/her licensed revoked!

Those poor babies.

Here the latest interview.

http://news.aol.com/article/octuplets-mom-speaks/331827

Whatever company(s) pay her, I will NEVER buy their products first time or again.

[Roms]

I agree with Wayne Luke.

[Magnumutz]

+1
We need such a system
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[GSeybold]

Ah what about all the sweet little children waiting to be adopted around the world? She couldn't have adopted 8 orphans? Oh wait, that wouldn't be lucrative would it?

Ah just so gross.

[Wayne Luke]

Originally Posted by UncoderMom

Just as a side note, the large majority of infertility issues have nothing to do with genetics.

I mentioned other causes as well. Even in your link, the first set of causes are all genetically influenced. Disease, pollution, diet, exposure to toxins, abortions, and more can lead to infertility as well.

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Originally Posted by GSeybold

Ah what about all the sweet little children waiting to be adopted around the world? She couldn't have adopted 8 orphans? Oh wait, that wouldn't be lucrative would it?

Ah just so gross.

Adoptions are very costly as well. A friend of mine is trying to adopt three adorable young girls from Russia. The cost is $30,000 just for paperwork and transportation. They have raised about $8,000 so far through donations. The couple already has two kids of her own and two more kids that they adopted from Thailand.

In the United States, most women have moved to a "Pre-adoption" method where parents are picked out before the baby is born and the adoptive couple pays for the medical costs and care of the mother. I understand sometimes the mother is compensated a little for her time as well... Usually around $10,000. The children that are given up involuntarily are often damaged with health problems. Most people won't even consider one of these children for adoption because its simply better to have healthy children.

Then we get into surrogacy. Here the person rents their uterus for 10 months for an average of $50,000. There are too types of surrogacy... The first is where the person has an embryo implanted that is not genetically hers because the genetic mother cannot carry a child to term. The second is where the surrogate is the genetic mother and abdicates her parental rights and lets the father and his wife adopt. After they pay the fee of course. I can agree with the first type of surrogacy. The second seems an awful lot like selling children though.

[lasto]

In years to come having a baby by the normal way will proberly be so weird and even unheard of.It will all be done in day surgery and be 100% pass rate.
Now they say the day will come when women no longer need a man,but that day will never come because where will they get the sperm from ?

Originally Posted by TruthElixirX

God, these threads have been ridiculous lately.

Do you guys want the government to hire people to wipe after you go to the bathroom as well?

LOL=) But you are right =)

I wanna government to clean my bathroom suites after me every single day! =)

[ChopSuey]

You do not realize this thread is more than a year old?