Joomla 1.5 Integration Questions

[ChrisChristian]

Tested the two solutions for integration with joomla.

My results:

jvbplugin -> Works (paid)

jfusion -> Don´t work (free)

Jfusion f* up my joomla and vB installations to point that I was forced to do a database restore to be able to login again and recover my admin account. They are working to fix these ploblems, but I do not recommend using jfusion for now.

Jvbplugin works. No problems so far.

[Superdaantje]

One of our Team Members wrote our own Bridge for Dutchjoomla.org. the vB Forum

When a user logs in on one of the Joomla! Pages he/she is also login on the forum and backward. When you check “What's Going On?” then you see also the sessions of all our pages also the Wiki en top sites. You can see what article the user is watching on the Joomla! front page and so on.

The user is synced real time. When the database of the forum is not ready to responded then it goes to the Joomla Database. We also can give user right through he admin panel of vB. For example admin rights for our download section and so on.

We have tested Jfusion but it is to basic and did not for see us in our needs. There for our own Bridge.

At time of Speak we still working on new features. At this moment we are not thinking to make this an public release. Sorry for this. The Bridge is custom made and when distributing it we violate the GNU/GPL licence of Joomla!

Kind regards,
Daan

[harty83]

Originally Posted by ChrisChristian

Tested the two solutions for integration with joomla.

My results:

jvbplugin -> Works (paid)

jfusion -> Don?t work (free)

Jfusion f* up my joomla and vB installations to point that I was forced to do a database restore to be able to login again and recover my admin account. They are working to fix these ploblems, but I do not recommend using jfusion for now.

Jvbplugin works. No problems so far.

What version of jFusion are you using? If it is the 1.0.8 release, that was before I joined the team and revamped the plugin. Marius has also made a lot of improvements to the sync process. I have not had any issues with the new beta about to be released on Dec 25. I have synced users from vBulletin to Joomla and from Joomla to vBulletin. New users are created in the appropriate category (registered, waiting on email confirmation, etc) when either registering or added by the admin. Existing users get updated. They get activated when Joomla's user gets activated. If blocked in Joomla, they are blocked in vBulletin. Dual log in just works because it now uses vB datamanager to create sessions. The only pitfall right now is that if there is a user conflict during the mass user sync process, jFusion will display them but not resolve them. Marius is working on that.

This of course is all from Joomla to vBulletin. I've made a separate Joomla plugin that receives info sent by vB's hook system that will allow dual login from vBulletin to Joomla. It has minor sync capabilities that will update a user's information in Joomla but it cannot create a user or update the password because vB will only pass a hashed version of the password to the server so a new account cannot be created or they will not be able to log in.

As with all betas, it is not *officially* advised to be used on live sites...BUT it will be on mine :-)

Oh and as added perks, I'm 95% done with frameless integration for vBulletin into Joomla ;-) Discussion bot and search plugins are also complete but need to be tested. But these WILL NOT be in the beta but a later release (or SVN ;-))

Thanks!
Alan

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Originally Posted by Superdaantje

We have tested Jfusion but it is to basic and did not for see us in our needs. There for our own Bridge.

Hi Daan!

I'm curious for development purposes, what features kept you from using jFusion (besides the bugs in 1.0.8 or earlier :-))

Thanks!
Alan

[Superdaantje]

I tested Jfusion and other bridges on an basic install and works like a charm

These are some of the futures we want for our Bridge

The Bridge has to work on all our Joomla! sites.

When the member is login he or she logs in on all pages. We also want to see on the forums “What's Going On?” where the members are. Not only on the forums but also on our sub domains. Joomla! and non Joomla! sites

We made also an user group sync. We have some additional groups in vB that have specific rights on some Joomla! sites. This is also synced so we can now give Team Members the rights within vB. Example we can give admin rights, manager rights for Joomla! within vB.

[Marco van Herwaarden]

Please do not use vB.org to discuss development of jFusion (or other). Please use the development website for that product to do this.

[harty83]

Originally Posted by Superdaantje

I tested Jfusion and other bridges on an basic install. But we use separate databases on different servers. This what Jfusion did not like.

Mmmm. Never tested this. It may be that jFusion doesn't support it. Obviously you have your own deal now, but I'll look into this for others.

When the member is login he or she logs in on all pages. We also want to see on the forums ?What's Going On?? where the members. Not only on the forums but also on our sub domains.

Yes, with the 1.0.8 version of jFusion, the statistics in vB were not updated because jFusion directly manipulated the database. But now, jFusion uses vB datamanagers for such things which keeps all of vB's statistics up to date.

Can you expand on the sub domain thing? Do you have multiple vB installations? Or are you referring to multiple Joomla installations? Or something else?

We made also an user group sync. We have some additional groups in vB that have specific rights on some Joomla! sites. This is also synced so we can now give Team Members the rights within vB. Example we can give admin rights, manager rights for Joomla! within vB.

Joomla's ACL in 1.5.8 is weak (a big complaint on Joomla). This is promised to be greatly improved in the 1.6 version. The jFusion team has decided not to add a user group sync because of this (other than registered users, waiting on email activation users, and banned users). Once, the release of J1.6 with an improved ACL structure, we will be adding this as a feature. This will add the feature to where an admin can match up any Joomla user groups to the software user groups, in this case vBulletin.

Thanks for your quick feedback!
Alan

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Originally Posted by Marco van Herwaarden

Please do not use vB.org to discuss development of jFusion (or other). Please use the development website for that product to do this.

Sorry I didn't see this post before posting the last one!!

[HydraulicJack]

Originally Posted by Marco van Herwaarden

Please do not use vB.org to discuss development of jFusion (or other). Please use the development website for that product to do this.

Marco or anyone else what is the URL of this other site, please?

Thanks
JJ

[Marco van Herwaarden]

I don't know, but a few URL's have already been posted in this thread.

[HydraulicJack]

Hey Harty, where do you recommend we go to be able to continue this discussion coherently?

Thanks!
Jack

[harty83]

Originally Posted by HydraulicJack

Hey Harty, where do you recommend we go to be able to continue this discussion coherently?

Thanks!
Jack

Mmmm...well I thought I had posted a link but it seems it was deleted. I'm honestly confused as to what the big deal is since it seems that this would promote vbulletin giving it options to be integrated with Joomla, a widely desired feature. Unless of course vBulletin has something up their sleeves to do this on their own which I would support whole heartedly. ;-)

Anyway, am I allowed to say google us? You'll find us and use our forum there. I'll be looking for you ;-)

Thanks!
Alan

(PS, dear mod, I'm not saying this in any way to be smart, disrespectful, or to cause a stink. I'm just trying to answer questions! Thanks!)