Initially I accepted that recent error messages generated after my upgrade were due to my host installing hardened php and Suhosin. (see here: https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showpost....6&postcount=28) After further discussions it appears that the problems with hardened php and Suhosin only seem apparent when upgrading to 3.7.4
In this regard there is clearly an issue with this version of vBulletin.
In addition, since upgrading to 3.7.4 I've noticed that guests no longer appear in the Currently Active Users display. Only logged in members appear. Clicking "Who's Online" reveals several guests present, but the Currently Active Users display says there are none.
Reading back I see that this is a known bug with 3.7.4! Despite this, 3.7.4 PL1 has now been released but this issue remains unaddressed. I've applied this update and I STILL cannot see guests on my board.
I had no such problems with previous versions and I am rapidly coming to the conclusion that 3.7.4 is a disaster. So much so in fact that I'm seriously considering giving up vBulletin. Releasing software with known bugs to paying customers is simply not acceptable - this is supposed to be a final release not a BETA! These constant "upgrades" are frankly nothing short of a nuisance - especially if they cause problems that didn't exist before. Most of the time they offer little if anything to improve the average forums - they just cause more work for webmasters. It seems to me that the constant release of "upgrades" is simply a way of ensuring that renewal fees keep rolling in!
Why can there not be an established and stable version where owners do not need to constantly edit templates and etc? Surely security patches could still be released if vulnerabilities are discovered.
Well I'm sure these are questions that have been asked before and I'm equally sure there will be some pat answers to them . . . but at the end of the day the 3.7.0 release candidate, together with subsequent security patches would have been less troublesome than the "upgraded" version I'm currently stuck with.
Yeh yeh, nobody HAS to upgrade, but if you're trying to design skins, graphics etc. there is little credibility for the work if it's presented on an out-of-date board version.
I've been running vBulletin on an active owned license for several years now, but it's unlikely I'll renew again. I've closed my board now and I'll probably remove vBulletin from my server soon. Back to open source software and html pages if this is the best vB can offer.
obviously it's not vBulletin's fault if you're the only one having those problems?
11-22-2008, 02:10 PM
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