Modification Graveyard issue...

[tazzarkin]

Actually, a lot of famous writers have taken ideas from great stories, even paraphrased stories in different forms. I couldn't tell you how many people have taken stories from the bible and turned them into great novels. It even extends to movies, I've heard that Spielberg got his best ideas for Star Wars from the Seven Samurai. If you really want to be precise, almost no idea is truly original. Even the great writers learn by mimicking their favorite authors.

Now, I'm all for copyrighting your work and against plagiarism in all forms, but to say any idea is truly original is ridiculous. Also, in vbulletin, there are only certain ways to do things. There are no programming guides available to teach people how to program here, so the only way to learn is from other programmers. You can't re-invent the wheel everytime.

Now if one person makes a video mod, and then someone else makes a video mod and steals large chunks of code, then it's plagiarism. That's blatant.

But here's my question... If someone has a video mod and has code that reads from the database, and you copy it for a menu mod that has no relation to video (and this is possible), how do you determine if it is plagiarism?

It's so hard because there are only so many ways to do things in vbulletin. Unless it is blatant, I don't see how you can make a distinction.
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Originally Posted by RLShare

JACQUII, I have some questions. If someone writes a short story, and posts it online for others to enjoy to do you believe that everyone should have the right to take paragraphs of it and use it in their own works just because it was released freely for people to enjoy? And if you do not why would not equate the same logic to coders? Do you seriously think that low of coders that they do not deserve the same rights as a writer posting stories?

Your analogy should have been more along the lines of someone stealing chapters from a novel or paragraphs from an essay. Re-read your own post, can you honestly tell me that equating mere words to the work of coders is not degrading and trivializing of the work they supply for free.

[PoetJA-1975]

Ah! No use arguing - Old people are stuck in their old ways. It's been said that some can code and come up with completely the very same coding without having seen what the other has done.

The point of this thread was to ask - why some Coder pulled all of his modifications. It's obvious the reason the modifications where pulled is because he felt someone had "stolen" his code and reused it in a modification. For all of you who think the analogy I made was a bit harsh - WHATEVER -- Perhaps it's too much of a deep concept for your to grasp, or maybe you just refuse to understand because you don't want to fill like your opinion is wrong. I dare say the majority of people here at vBulletin.org would agree with my analogy.

For those of you who feel that I have insinuated the wonderful sharing that goes on within the vBulletin Community is "trivial" --- WHATEVER - Search the threads and see that I have been most grateful for the sharing. And generally have even helped others to solve issues they may have with a particular modification. My motto is share and share alike - I'm always happy to help whenever I can.

For the Bighead who thinks I'm "disgusting" - Die why don't ya! I don't give a damn about what you think of me - You're an idiot and obviously you cannot possibly wrap your little head around the concept that I have espoused in this thread. Again- you try to put words in my mouth. Please don't do that. You take offense? Perhaps you should pull your trivial little Blue Gloss style or your pitiful little Watermark Images hack from vBulletin.org, the whole while throwing a little 2-year-old tantrum because some Member of vBulletin.org thinks you're ridiculous.... You find that funny do you? The 2-year-old tantrum bit? Happy to make you smile then - idiot! Grow up.

And sorry MS OHIOSWEETHEART - Boofo DEFINITELY pulled a female dog fit by pulling ALL of his modifications (3.6 - 3.7) off of vBulletin.org. It WAS a childish, snobbish & ultimately uncaring thing to do. Do you think he gave a damn about the people who had downloaded his stuff? NO! And in my opinion, that just goes to say that he didn't really care about sharing his stuff with the vBulletin Community ANYWAY. It was interesting to note in most of his threads, the code he used in his modifications.... Well - he'd always thanked someone for helping him originate the modification. That is to say - the code he used was not even 100% HIS OWN.

In closing - I will simply say AGAIN - vBulletin.org is a Community of sharing. WTF some temperamental Coder would go through the D-R-A-M-A .... Ah - forget it....

Jacquii.

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Originally Posted by tazzarkin

Actually, a lot of famous writers have taken ideas from great stories, even paraphrased stories in different forms. I couldn't tell you how many people have taken stories from the bible and turned them into great novels. It even extends to movies, I've heard that Spielberg got his best ideas for Star Wars from the Seven Samurai. If you really want to be precise, almost no idea is truly original. Even the great writers learn by mimicking their favorite authors.

Now, I'm all for copyrighting your work and against plagiarism in all forms, but to say any idea is truly original is ridiculous. Also, in vbulletin, there are only certain ways to do things. There are no programming guides available to teach people how to program here, so the only way to learn is from other programmers. You can't re-invent the wheel everytime.

Now if one person makes a video mod, and then someone else makes a video mod and steals large chunks of code, then it's plagiarism. That's blatant.

But here's my question... If someone has a video mod and has code that reads from the database, and you copy it for a menu mod that has no relation to video (and this is possible), how do you determine if it is plagiarism?

It's so hard because there are only so many ways to do things in vbulletin. Unless it is blatant, I don't see how you can make a distinction.
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I agree. And the one thing I've said about Boofo pulling his mods - vBulletin is a Community of SHARING. When he took EVERY SINGLE ONE of his 3.6, 3.7 mods down - He spit in the face of the very concept vBulletin.org represents. This is truth, nothing more - nothing less.

JAcquii.

[Paul M]

OK, I think thats enough for now. Closed.