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Old 02-28-2008, 10:27 AM
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Personally I don't care if it drives guests away. I would hope they would register where they would not be blocked from blocking ads. If they are registered then it is my hope that they would become active in the community instead of just being lurkers.

However an unregistered user blocking ads on my site lends nothing to my site the only thing that it does for me is costs me money for their bandwidth, so if they go I am not missing out on anything.

Again I want to block people blocking ads from displaying showthread.php, and given the option to turn off their ad blocker software or register and become a member where they can use their ad blocker software but then again when they are registered can hopefully become an active part of the community.

Guest blocking ads lends nothing to your community, they only cost you money.

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Ok I think I have found out how they do it and the javascript used.

http://www.blue.lu/other/blocker/

Now to figure out how to put it in so that if a unregistered guest has ads blocked and tries seeing a thread they instead see a message asking them to turn off their ad blocker or register.
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Old 02-28-2008, 02:54 PM
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Two flaws about this (okay, 3):

1. It fails totally in search engines. Do you really want to block Google, Yahoo and MSN? Because anyone who looks for the site in a search engine will totally and utterly fail at finding any content on the site.

2. If somehow just one file could be allowed, then technically the script will show it even with ad blockers (just watch, all it needs is a nice NoScript update or something to allow or block certain scripts...)

3. That will only ever work for programs, and I'm assuming not things like host files or local CSS based changes to the page locally.
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Old 02-28-2008, 03:59 PM
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1) it would not fail on search engines.

2) Take a look at the javascript and see how it works, ad blockers are programmed to ignore the word ads urls with the word ads and directories names ads

3) I dont care about CSS, I have thousands of people who view my site as guest at a time. The folks don't lend anything to my community other then the fact that they are using my bandwidth. If they want to read a guests its ok, but they got to look at the ads. If they dont like the ads then they can register as a member and then turn on their ad blocker (my feeling is then they might actually become an active member in the community which is a big plus) or they can stop visiting my site and leeching away all the bandwidth I pay for.

I have a few ideas that can make this work, now I just need to sit down and find the time to make it work.
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Old 02-28-2008, 05:00 PM
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Well said, although I don't agree with your reasoning. But you do make a good argument against.
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Old 02-29-2008, 09:18 PM
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My site is kind of a strange site, I break a lot of news and rumors. A number of news media places stay at my site day in and day out just refreshing looking for me to break some industry news.

If you look at my online stats at any time of the day there will be 3200 people online with only 1400 of them being registered logged in members, the rest are guests. I want to get them logged in as members. If they register and use an ad blocker I dont care, as now they are more apt to become an active member of the community.
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