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Old 10-28-2007, 02:31 AM
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Since you are no longer licenced, I fail to see why you need such a site.
So , i'am thinking to renew my account iam just looking for some intersting product like photopost.com /vbadvanced.com / vbcredit.com this is the only site i found so far .... and if there is some more site then Post them here thanks...
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Old 10-28-2007, 09:49 AM
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Feel free to ask again once you have obtained a new license.
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Old 10-29-2007, 07:04 PM
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I'm new but I have been very frustrated by people who won't help themselves for a something that's free. Its like saying..."here is a free bowl of candy, all you have to do is come get it"

and the reply being..."What?!!? you can't bring it to me?"

Its terrible.

I have said a bunch of times that people should just read the thread. I don't care how busy you are, take the time and it will answer most of your questions.

I see people all the time say something like..."does this work with 3.5.6? I don't have time to read the thread"

Its just lazy. I don't blame coders for not wanting to put up with it. Turns a gift into something that is a constant problem
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Old 10-29-2007, 08:24 PM
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Do you have any unanswered questions? Even experienced vBulletin users don't reply your questions, the vB.org staff is always spending their time to answer the questions or solving the problems.

We, the coders, have 'another' life. Not every time we can update our mods or produce something. Sometimes while I'm walking I think what can I do for vBulletin administrators to have it in their forums. But as many many things have been coded, not much things are produced. This is like questions. You cannot ask the answered questions. You may not know, this is so normal, but humans experience same things in their life. So think that and try to search the answer because it's in somewhere. It has to be.

If everything were free, there'd be no meaning of living for humans. To have something we pay what it is worth. This is not just money. Sometimes even we pay with our lives. If you feel pitty for paying for the mods you requested which you can found on other forum softwares' support sites, why have you paid for vBulletin as you can use a free software? This is a contradiction.
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Old 10-30-2007, 10:53 AM
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I would suggest that it is mostly because of posts like this. When you are a coder, it's one thing to share your code with others who give back to you; but when a huge population of people have nothing to offer and need constant hand holding to install even the most simple of mods, well, it's get old real quick.

vB.org was active when there was a strong community of developers feeding off of each other; now it's a huge portal for people wanting to update their software with "free" stuff and then demanding support because they don't have a clue or are unwilling to spend even a few minutes trying to figure out their own problem.

After a while even the most die hard of coders gives up and just codes for themselves thinking "why bother".
Pretty much. I personally haven't encountered anything like as high a percentage of ungrateful users as this thread makes it sound, but of course it happens. And equally the same bad attitude, while equally rare, is noticably not restricted to non-coders either.

Paul M said that 150 users join per day, how many of those are coders? A tiny percentage no doubt. vb.org is inevitably a victim of its own success. And it is a success. 150 new users daily is no small figure. The quality of some of the modifications/design on here is terrific even if (again, probably inevitably) some of the top class move on to greater things. I don't think there are fewer coders or fewer good modifications or anything like that. It's just that the demographics have shifted considerably.

Surely the real question is what can be done about it? Because if that is the cause - and there seems little disagreement that it is - then the trend will only continue in the same direction. Especially since as the userbase expands, modifications will receive even more posts and support requests and so on, polite or otherwise, and will become even more difficult to deal with.
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Old 10-31-2007, 05:23 AM
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Supporting uShop back a few years ago killed my soul.

That and a WoW addiction and I haven't released anything in a while.
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Old 10-31-2007, 08:10 AM
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It has to do with the new admins of the site. Believe me.
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Old 10-31-2007, 12:14 PM
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Sorry but I honestly believe the admins are doing a great job. Just look at the recent updates to the site. They were asked for and came pretty fast so they must be doing something right. I've stop releasing as much because of the attitude of some members towards free hacks. They think that they are the most important and you should jump when they say. Some of them don't realize that coders also have lives and can't update a hack or answer a question in 10 mins.
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Old 10-31-2007, 12:32 PM
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I have to admit, I haven't encountered any members shouting abuse or complaining about not receiving support fast enough, if they did, the ignore user button can be a useful function to turn too whilst keep support going for the community that do deserve it.
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Old 10-31-2007, 04:38 PM
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It has to do with the new admins of the site. Believe me.
Meaning what exactly.
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