vB.org Is Not Active Like it Use Before

[Freesteyelz]

Originally Posted by Brad

There are a lack of people willing to teach, there are a lack of people willing to learn. Both groups have a hard time hearing each other over all the noise.

Fixed the above problems and you'll find the community will take care of itself.

In summary, the problem is not with just one group. We're a community and will benefit or pay the consequences as a whole. Well said, Brad. :up:

[Dream]

Originally Posted by MPDev

I would suggest that it is mostly because of posts like this. When you are a coder, it's one thing to share your code with others who give back to you; but when a huge population of people have nothing to offer and need constant hand holding to install even the most simple of mods, well, it's get old real quick.

vB.org was active when there was a strong community of developers feeding off of each other; now it's a huge portal for people wanting to update their software with "free" stuff and then demanding support because they don't have a clue or are unwilling to spend even a few minutes trying to figure out their own problem.

After a while even the most die hard of coders gives up and just codes for themselves thinking "why bother".

I have to agree with this and the comments by Inferno Tech. I worked with internet phone support and got traumatized, so I can't stand giving support nowadays. Questions can get pretty surprising, and I just don't have the patience (sue me). I find it funny that here in vb.org some people demand support, expect support to a FREE code that is provided. And if I don't reply to the questions about my mods, no one ever does. Most people don't help each other, they just come to the mod thread and ask their stuff then go away. I try to help most nice people with problems though, if I have the time, but I don't officially support modifications. Don't get me started with insane feature requests...

As for mod release activity, most mods released nowadays require weeks of coding, and that's good. Back when 3.5 and plugins was out, everyone was excited making quick mods (myself included), and the release activity was high. I think this things are related, bigger mods coming out now takes more time to code than the mini mods people used to do. It took me two or three weeks to make my radio and TV add-on, which had 50 installs in the first day

Also in my defense of not supporting my mods, I make them usually for myself to use, share them for FREE and now I allow ANYONE to re-use the code of any of my mods to release their own versions of it. So now other people might re-release my mods and make a better job at supporting them than me. And I'm hoping that happens, and I think it is pretty cool. This could create a healthy open-source sub-community here that would help everyone, each one doing the job (coding, support) they want to do. I know I don't want to do support, but I want to share the mods I make for myself with others.

Originally Posted by bigcurt

Stupid plugins and products took all the fun away from actually "hacking!"

I am just joking, please don't kill me :P.

*shoots bigcurt* :P

edit: Dream's wall of text crits you for 10000 damage. You die.

[bigcurt]

Originally Posted by Dream

*shoots bigcurt* :P

edit: Dream's wall of text crits you for 10000 damage. You die.

Please never make a WoW reference again or I will be forced to kill myself with a crit :P.

[Connector]

My license Just expire Today i will be thinking either way to Renew it or Move to IPB or phpBB .....

[brandondrury]

Personally, I'm THRILLED with the mods that are out there for vBulletin. There are some very exciting, very effective tools to make a forum a better place to be. I've nothing but program php all year so I realize just how tough it can be to make a system work for everyone. It's very difficult to please everyone.

I was into SMF for a while. There were some good mods, but it wasn't even close to what I experienced when I made the switch to vBulletin about a year ago. People can pretend that other forums are perfect, but what they really mean is there is one particular mod already written for that script and they refuse to pay someone to write it for them.

Maybe the time they waste switching forum scripts could be better used to serve their community or work with developers to get their mod (either free or paid).

Thank you to everyone who donates their time to make vBulletin even better!

Brandon

[Connector]

Iam trying to find a website where i can find paid Mod/hack i could not find anyone other then vba.com and vbhacks.com is there any other then this 2 ?

[Shazz]

Originally Posted by Connector

Iam trying to find a website where i can find paid Mod/hack i could not find anyone other then vba.com and vbhacks.com is there any other then this 2 ?

Could you name what your looking for?

[Paul M]

Since you are no longer licenced, I fail to see why you need such a site.

[lasto]

should be a section where the paid for hacks can be displayed - sort of catalogue what is out there with a link to the relevant site for more info etc.

[Analogpoint]

Originally Posted by Connector

Hello.

Vb.org is not Active like b4 .... i remember Everyday New Hack is posted now i think it need week or so ... I Find in IPB /IZE is more active then here even phpBB ... So What happen ?

I myself have released a dozen free mods, and coded another handful for clients in the last 2 months. I wouldn't call that inactive.

Originally Posted by Paul M

Since you are no longer licenced, I fail to see why you need such a site.

Good point